1uglydude

Bingo. The state gets money from the P-R Act based on how many licenses are sold. A combination license counts as two licenses under the formula used. So, instead of jacking up the price of both NR hunting and NR fishing licenses, they decided to make combo the only option and to give it a modest price increase over the old hunting license. If NR fishermen don't like it then they still have the short term licenses available. Same thing for NR small game hunters.

except for the cartel who could care less about you or your kids. All of the illegals being brought across the border are with a coyote that will kill you in a heartbeat. Ha! Yeah, that's why we see innocent civilians getting shot down there on a daily basis. The early coues season is a nightmare, more hunters killed than deer. Think about what you're saying. The cartels are about money. They fight each other to get their smuggling routes. The last thing they want to do is start shooting innocent people because it would bring the BP and all other law enforcement into that area and wipe out all of their work. Then they would have no choice but to risk using a route under heavy pressure or go fight another cartel for a new route. Are there exceptions? Yes. There's always a rouge foot soldier out there. But these guys aren't stupid. They know how to make money, and they know what kind of activity will put a hurt on their business. I'm not saying that they're nice or that they have compassion on your children, they just have more business sense than you're letting on.

It doesn't. That's the problem. They're using the discarded fishing line and hooks as an excuse to push the agenda of the Desert Flycasters and the Audubon Society, claiming that the birds are hurt. Here's a few more things to consider: 1) We already have littering regulations that obviously aren't being enforced, who will enforce the artificial rule? 2) If you pass by the lake at night, after it is closed and supposed to be empty, you will see several groups of "fishermen" who stay there late into the night and take home many many fish. No one is enforcing the curfew. Are these guys going to follow the artificial fly and lure regulations? No. They're going to catch and take every fish they can. You can bet that these are also the guys leaving the trash and line behind. 3) Game and Fish will not stock catfish and trout in the lake if this rule changes...and why should they? Gilbert still expects them to stock bass and bluegill twice per year though (which will be promptly removed by the late night bucket brigades). The Department buys trout at roughly $4 per pound for urban stocking. Catfish cost just under $3 per pound. Bass cost $19 per pound and bluegill cost $14 per pound. Which is the better use of money if we are looking for fishing opportunities for kids? 4) The Audubon Society claims that over 100 birds and turtles have been killed by discarded line and tackle over the past six years, but you can't tell me that the birds haven't also benefited by fish stockings. For crying out loud, the cormorants gorge themselves nearly every day on stocked fish.

That's true, but the mayor doesn't realize that Game and Fish will expand to those other waters at almost no cost to Gilbert, all the Town has to do is agree to it. Game and Fish wants to expand the urban fishing program in Gilbert to other lakes, but the parks and rec department will only agree to that if the Game and Fish makes Water Ranch artificial flies and lures and catch and release. There is no reason the program can't expand to more lakes so the kids can have real opportunity at all of them. Water Ranch is THE best urban water in the southeast valley. The Town is offering up McQueen Park, Discovery Park, and Freestone Park - none of these is suitable substitute for Water Ranch. Water Ranch has a natural shoreline, no playground equipment, and the water is not dyed blue like the other parks. At Freestone, the kids will be distracted by the slides and swings if the fishing is at all slow. The shoreline is concrete curbing, like a swimming pool. Also, the water is the same color blue you see when you add those urinal cakes to your toilet water. Our kids deserve a fishing experience that is as close to natural as we can get it.

What would your price be without the scope?

Emails to the mayor and councilmembers are useful, but the biggest impact will come from having bodies in the room wanting to speak on the issue. Also, here's a tip: the mayor gets a lot of email....the councilmembers don't get quite as many but their votes count just as much as the mayor's.

The article mentions the person who is the driving force behind the change. He is in the leadership of the local branch of a national environmental group and also happens to be a former town councilman. He has the ears of a lot of people.

Any interest in trading one for one with 55 gr hornady canalured spire points? I have 900 of them, but my rifles don't like them as much as the FMJs. Sounds like you're not hard pressed for bullets, but I thought I would ask.

Alliant claims that RL 17 is designed for short mags. I use it in my 270 wsm and get amazing groups and higher than anticipated velocity that is remarkably consistent from shot to shot.

I will take it. Will send a PM.

I get amazing results with Reloader 17 in my 270 WSM. Great groups, and very fast and very consistent velocities. I have enough to last me though. :-)

Just got mine...drew for deer.

People on other forums are reporting that they are starting to receive the emails. Good luck.

They changed the website to say April 30 for a couple weeks, but then changed back to April 23 last week. Not sure if that means anything, but it would have been easy for them to keep the April 30 date if they felt it was necessary.

That would be my guess...if this is really how it works. When do emails typically go out? Is it the day before the posted date for results? If so, then that would be tomorrow, right?

I requested a license refund if not drawn. I just went into my account, and I am now able to print off a 2014 hunting license that says it has a purchase date of April 19th. So.....??? Just noticed that my post said that I could "not" print off a license...that should have read "now" print off a license.

I requested a license refund if not drawn. I just went into my account, and I am now able to print off a 2014 hunting license that says it has a purchase date of April 19th. So.....???

Huh...is there anything about how landowner tags are sold that would make using this "backdoor" method (unfortunate naming, by the way), not work for non-residents? I would be strange to have so many NRs draw. Did you put your daughter in for NM this year? Does it show anything different for her?

If this is really how it works, then that means that I drew a tag too.

I always used to mail on Friday, but the year I landed the hardest to pull leftover tag I had mailed it on Saturday. Now that's what I always do. I imagine a pile of mail that came in on Saturday sitting in a box, the mail coming in Monday morning landing on top of the pile at opening time, and the draw people working from the top of the pile. Don't know if that's how it works, but it has worked well for me.

I'm assuming you're joking? Or is it the late hunt? I don't think there is a late hunt limited to 23 south. So, he's either joking or mixing it up with 22 South, which the guy above says he drew. For what it's worth, he'd be wrong about that one too. Yep...there be elk all over both those units! Granted, you might need two or three days to pack one out. :-)

I'm assuming you're joking? Or is it the late hunt? I don't think there is a late hunt limited to 23 south. So, he's either joking or mixing it up with 22 South, which the guy above says he drew. For what it's worth, he'd be wrong about that one too.

If you applied on paper, then they will have a copy of it for you to review. If you applied online, then you should have your own confirmation of what you applied for. If it was their mistake, you'll be sitting pretty...if it was your mistake, then enjoy your cow hunt.

Show them the charge for your application and you should be good to go. If you didn't get charged and didn't get a confirmation email, then you may be out of luck...but I'm assuming you would have noticed if you hadn't received those.

Are you talking about the Hopi tags that are leftover? No, the 3 4a general bull tags. Yeah, those are Hopi tags bud. You can tell because they start with 38##