BowhunterAZ

Lol, I wish... turns out I have the other high demand $355 tag in 23 😩. I fudged up and thought there was only one high demand tag in there.

I drew a late burro mountain tag 👍🏻. I can’t believe it.

I drew a late burro mountain tag 👍🏻

And they have an awful tow capacity because of the independent suspension. I think it’s like 6k pounds.0

I’ve owned two 2013 3.5s one with a 6.5’ bed and my current one is the 5.5’ bed. Longer bed and longer wheel base handled my horse trailer better but the shorter truck is a lot better off road. I put 203,000 miles on my first one and my current one has 61,000. Both have been great trucks and do a great job towing but you’ll get 5-10mpg. They will run a little hot with a big load (8,000lbs) and 105 degrees or hotter between here and flag. It dominates it in cooler weather. Both trucks have a weird intermittent rear door lock actuator issue where about once a month they seize up and you have to manually unlock them. I did change the throttle body on the first one. Overall, I’ve loved both trucks!

Purchased in 2013 but never fired. $250

Price drop. $200

I may regret starting a debate, but would love some input... I need a bigger truck, but am terrified that I’ll hate a diesel for off- road and hunting. Looking at crew cab, short bed 250s and 2500s. I’m looking at 2017-new. Here are some questions. 1.) for those of you who have gone from a half ton to diesel, how bad is the drop off in off-road capability? Did you hate the change? 2.) what are the pros and cons for the ford straight front axle vs GM’s independent front suspension? Which is better off-road? 3) don’t worry about telling me about dodges, lol thanks in advance

Thanks for all the input! The wobble is definitely a concern. I’ll have to do some thinkin drinking on it

I would like more information on how sponsorships work on here.

Yeah, I’ve seen it. From my research, pretty much all solid front axle vehicles are susceptible to that. There was a pretty common “dodge death wobble.” Certainly not ideal, but there there’s an aftermarket steering stabilizer that supposedly helps. Did you or your neighbor try that? I talked to a friend who had his 2011 f350 do a death wobble, so it’s not just these new aluminum alloy trucks.

Yeah, I’ve seen it. From my research, pretty much all solid front axle vehicles are susceptible to that. There was a pretty common “dodge death wobble.” Certainly not ideal, but there there’s an aftermarket steering stabilizer that supposedly helps. Did you or your neighbor try that?

Thanks for the feedback! A glimmer of hope that I won’t hate it, lol. I am leaning really hard towards ford, just didn’t know much about the front end difference. My last two trucks have been fords and they’ve been badass.

Lol! I might just keep my half ton and own two trucks after watching that. That was painful

Yeah, that’s what I’m afraid of... unfortunately, my half ton won’t pull a living quarters horse trailer. I don’t intend to take it off road fir the sake of off-road, just curious how bad they are for normal hunting situations. Sounds like they’re as bad as I’m imagining, haha

Thanks for the tip. We blew up three stock Cummins engines in my family hauling horse trailers, so I have kind of sworn them off but those were 05s. I’m sure they’re better now.

I’ll call Carli tomorrow and ask a bunch of questions

How does that high end suspension affect towing? I imagine swapping rigidity for smooth has to take away from the trucks ability to handle heavier loads, but not sure. There might be a good solution for both applications

Got ya. I think that might just need to be the equation with a sxs and a 3/4 ton.

My big problem is that I’ll need to pull a living quarters horse trailer, so I can’t do a whole bunch in terms of big lifts and other modifications.

I got ya. That’s true. I’ve thought about buying an ohv of some kind. That might be the best option. Im not sure who carli is

Oh, good point. I didn’t even think about that. I’m a ford guy too, so I’m with you. I just assume all bigger trucks suck off-road though and if one is demonstrably better off-road, it would get the nod

And diesel and gas engines will perform differently off-road, so I’m not even sure what your original point is

Oh, so sorry... didn’t want to write out 3/4 ton throughout my post. Thanks for the technical correction. I get there are half ton diesels now, but my guess is the majority of people know what I’m referring to when I said diesel. Thanks for the valuable input.

Oh, so sorry... didn’t want to write out 3/4 ton throughout my post. Thanks for the technical correction. I get there are half ton diesels now, but my guess is the majority of people know what I’m referring to when I said diesel. Thanks for the valuable input.