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No additional wear as the pack has been sitting in my pile of packs for the past year. Pack has not moved since I took those pics and set aside. Which is also why the post is so old. I wasn't sure I wanted to sell it at first then forgot I posted here and finally updated the thread. Feel free to PM Amanda if you want a background check on me. Lol... Yes the 4500 has two internal "stays" that make up the frame and provide the support when you load it up. I'm in tucson. Cmc

Yes it is. I posted the back a while back and recently lowered the price from $250 to $180 after watching other packs go for $220-$200.

Yep pack is still for sale.

I have a new toy to purchase and need to sell this pack to help fund it.

REMINDER WALK IN's WELCOME....TICKETS AT THE DOOR 21th ANNUAL HUNTING HERITAGE BANQUET WILL BE HELD ON June 14, 2014 @ The Double Tree Hilton - Reid Park 445 South Alvernon Way Join us for a fun filled night of live auctions, silent auctions, brand new games and raffles. Bring the family!!! You're guaranteed to have a great time! Make sure you bring your dad...we have a special raffle just for Father's Day! Doors open at 4:00p.m. for drinks and Hors d'oeuvres. Dinner will be served at 6:00p.m. Prime Rib is on the menu! And of course we will have guns, guns, guns! Use this link to order tickets or mail back the attached form: http://www.nwtftucson.org/purchase-banquet-tickets.html Or click here for Form - Banquet Flyer Form.pdf

All, I have mentioned this here before and hope to continue to keep an update on the sheep restoration project in the Santa Catalina Mountains on the north end of Tucson. (click her for the project committee's webpage). The restoration project is a plan to put around 100 bighorn sheep on the mountain in three phases. The first phase comes as early as November this year with 30 sheep being relocated to the Santa Catalina's and outfitted with radio collars for monitoring purposes. This project is in need of your help in a few ways to be successful. First we as outdoor recreationalist need to understand and support the needs for hiking trail restrictions in the Catalina's. Trail restrictions for the restoration area are already in effect and will remain in effect throughout the timeline of the project. These restrictions are pivotal in the success, they are in the form of limiting access during lambing season so the herd experiences less stress during a critical time of the year. Second is a restriction to limit bring pets into the area, primarily dogs. A study was conducted where they monitored the heart rate of sheep that encounter both hikers and hikers with dogs and it the heart rate of the sheep increased drastically when the dog was present on the hike. Again this leads to unwanted stress to an animal and considering there is enough stress for them during and after a relocation any part we can do to limit that factor is needed. Lastly the project needs your financial assistance. Relocation of around 100 sheep is not cheap and involves a lot of resources, equipment and technology for monitoring once they are on the ground in their new habitat. You can help by giving to the project a charitable donation. Click her for the AZ Desert Bighorn Sheep Society project donation web site. There are several levels of donating but honestly any level is appreciated. If you or someone you know, even their business/company maybe, would like to "adopt a sheep" please check out the Gold level donation. If you have any questions regarding the project or donating do not hesitate to email me (cmc "at" azsj.org) and we can discuss the details. I'll also include a link to their program/flyer in hopes you can help spread the word of the project to others. Click here to view the (PDF) project flyer. Thank you, cmc (Chris McCotter)

I use to think that putting Goulds turkeys in the mountains south of Tucson was a waste of resources and would be a lost cause. For years I use to think that I would not be alive by the time a hunt opened up in the Santa Ritas. I have to laugh now as I think of the taxidermist bill I have to pay for my wifes Goulds taken out of that mountain range this past year. I also use to think putting elk in Kentucky and Pennsylvania was a lost cause. They are thriving with great success to the point that the herds can sustain themselvs and still allow for hunting. I can admit fully I was wrong on both cases. Sorry you guys feel that way but respect your opinion on the matter. Best, cmc

Parker - Awesome job with the bow and arrow! Congratulations on going at it with archery tackle and being successful some of us have been trying to do that for almost two decades and yet to be in your shoes. Proud moment for ya Darr... nice work dad.

price drop...

Cleaning out the closet of stuff that has sat in there collecting dust. You can email me at cmc @ azsj.org I have pics of the below items posted here... -------------------------------- -------------------------------- Like new Kings Camo Rain Gear Jacket - Desert Shadow Camo - Size XL/REG camo rain gear set. I wore these once on an archery deer hunt stalk for an hour and then again on top of my trailer fixing a flapping roof vent in a downpour. No markings on them for wear that I could find. I have more sets of rain gear than one should have in Az and don't need these taking up space. Would prefer to sell these as a set - Jacket & Pants - $90 TYD ------------------------------ Thompson Center Encore 12ga Shotgun barrel w/forearm - $200 TYD -----------------------------

The hyw83 has been closing at night for the past 20yrs and shuts down for a short duration during the year. Nothing new because of the current president. Dont get me wrong I agree it should be a. 24/7 operation. Do some leg work and you'll love the politics involved with it as to why. BTW....those guys have told me about more deer, pigs and bears than my trail camera ever have. Several time paying off on filled tags.

Ruby Rd Shooting Area Clean Up WHEN: Saturday, April 6th 2013, 8:00 AM start. Lunch will be provided on site by the AZ Chapter of Safari Club International. Please RSVP so we can provide enough food. WHO: Shooters, Volunteers and any other dedicated outdoorsman who want to clean up our desert. This event is put on in partnership with the United States Forest Service, the Arizona Game and Fish Department, the Arizona Chapter of the Safari Club International, and most importantly, the volunteers who care about cleaning up our outdoors and wildlife habitat. WHAT: Our goal for this event is not only to clean up this heavily used shooting area on Forest Service land, but to increase awareness that access to locations like these are dependent upon responsible users that clean and ultimately maintain the outdoors. We also hope to create and foster relationships between agencies and local sportsman. WHERE: The clean up site is at approximately milepost 4.8 on Ruby Rd. Take I-19 to the Ruby Rd exit in Rio Rico. Turn west onto Ruby Rd, approximately 4.8 miles west of I-19, on the side of the road. HOW: Tools, Trash Bags and Dumpsters will be available at the campsite. TO RSVP FOR LUNCH PLEASE CONTACT: Officer Mark Frieberg at 520-610-1596 or mfrieberg@azgfd.gov Karla Segura at the Nogales Ranger District at 520-281-2296 or kysegura@fs.fed.us

Amanda I hope you had an uneventfull ride home and as always, good to see ya and chat about critters. And yes... I'd pass on that buck you were holding if I had a 110" 3 point standing besdie it. Without hesitation! They get that luck from their mom.

Tucson Chapter of the NWTF is holding their 20th ANNUAL HUNTING HERITAGE BANQUET When: WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 9, 2013 Where:SHEPLEY'S BARN (North of Oro Valley) Join us for a fun filled night of live auctions, silent auctions, games, raffles and live music. Bring the family!!! You're guaranteed to have a great time! Doors open at 4:00p.m. Click HERE to buy tickets Click HERE to view a map and directions. Click HERE for the Tucson NWTF Web Page.

no joke, here is a quote from my kids on the way home from the banquet... "(daughter) dad can we go to the next turkey banquet that was fun?, (son) ya dad, can we?"

Congrats on the little one!!!!

A reminder of the banquet this weekend. Hope to see you there.

There are 3 commissioner elk tags. Two of them are available for groups to submit proposals to the Dept for and normally go up for auction. The third is put into the Supper raffle.

While at the RMEF national convention this past weekend he advised the crowed he would be cutting the check Monday to the NRA. Mind you that was after he just handed over $700,000 to the the RMEF and he told us that he gave $500K to fund a shooting sports program for the boy scouts. That's all on top of the money it takes to become sponsors of such events like the NRA, RMEF and NWTF national conventions. Some people buy $385,000 elk tags and some people just hand over the cash. Either way it's a win win for sportsmen.

That was a sight to see in person. The opening bid was $80,000 and in 25 seconds it was over $200,000. No joke. The guy two tables from me quit bidding at $350k. Pretty sure the buyer would have went over $400k if someone wanted to challenge him. We should see the two guys that didnt get the tag go head to head for the other tag at the AES...reminds me i need to get my tickets before they sell out.

Here is your chance to express to the Forest Service your thoughts on the Tonto Travel Management plan. http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/tonto...STELPRDB5346557 Travel Management public comment period begins Release Date: Jan 6, 2012 Environmental Assessment, Tonto National Forest Phoenix (January 6, 2012) –Tonto National Forest officials are seeking comments on the Travel Management Environmental Assessment (EA). The 30-day comment period begins January 6. The action is a proposed system of roads, trails and areas. Based on previous public input, several alternatives are proposed in this draft Environmental Assessment (EA). The final product will be a Motor Vehicle Use Map (MVUM) that shows which roads and trails will be open to motor vehicle use. The decision will also amend the Tonto National Forest Plan. In 2005, the Department of Agriculture enacted a new planning rule to manage motorized vehicle use on all national forests and grasslands. This rule requires the Tonto National Forest to designate those roads, trails, and areas that are open to motor vehicle use. Designations will be made by class of vehicle and, if appropriate, by time of year. The final rule will prohibit the use of motor vehicles off the designated system, as well as use of motor vehicles on routes and in areas that are not consistent with the designations. “Public involvement at this time is a critical component in developing a motorized travel system,” stated Sharon Wallace, Public Services Group leader. “During this comment period, we are hoping to get representative viewpoints and suggestions from a cross-section of forest visitors. “The purpose of the Motor Vehicle Use Map is to comply with the requirements of the Travel Management Rule, to reduce problems caused by uncontrolled off-road travel, and to improve the current system of travel routes for public access and enjoyment. The development of a Motor Vehicle Use Map is an adaptive process in which future changes can be made in the public interest.” A copy of the travel management environmental assessment can be found at the forest web page at www.fs.usda.gov/tonto under the Travel Management Plan link. Print or CD copies of the EA are available at the Forest Supervisor’s Office at 2324 E. McDowell Rd., Phoenix, Arizona, or one of six forest district offices. Comments must be submitted within 30 days following date of the legal notice published in the Capitol Times on January 6, 2012. Please submit comments using one of the methods below (listed in order of preference for ease of processing through the content analysis process): Internet (using a comment form): https://cara.ecosystem-management.o...t?Project=28967 Email: comments-southwestern-TMRTonto@fs.fed.us Postal mail: Travel Management Team Leader Tonto National Forest 2324 E McDowell Rd. Phoenix AZ, 85006 Phone: 602-225-5213 Comments will only be considered if a full name and a physical mailing address are included. Comments become part of the public record. If you have any questions concerning this process, please contact Genevieve Johnson at 602-225-5213, or by email at grjohnson@fs.fed.us For more information about the program, please visit the Tonto National Forest webpage at www.fs.usda.gov/tonto or call the Tonto National Forest Supervisor’s Office, (602) 225-5200.

One of the dangerous aspects of the TMP is how they are dealing with camping. Devils in the details.