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It is hard to beat the satisfaction of arrowing a buck. It would be difficult to beat the satisfaction of seeing your son tag a monster on the December late hunt too. I would personally take a good buck with your bow, given the opportunity and sign that sucker over to your son. Set a mark on what you would be satisfied with in regards to a bow kill, and wait for that opportunity to present itself. How long has it been since you've drawn a late hunt? How many in your life? Does your son already have a tag? All good questions to consider.

Shooting a bull in that country even 2 or 3 miles from the nearest road creates a tremendous chore in getting him out before any meat spoilage occurs. It can take one man, 2 days or more, of hardwork to pack out an elk in that country depending on distance. No doubt this is a true statement. The hardwork is an understatement if the elk is a couple of deep canyons in. I would be interested to know prices. If you have any idea, post em' up, or, send me a pm.

I'd be interested and probably a good idea. Have you thought of or have any idea at a price? Or is the knowledge of where we took our game the $$$$$$

What reticle does the scope have?

Man cool pics. You and a couple buddies need to take out a few of those deer killin' machines!

I was 10. It was a muley buck, 4 x 3 with eyegaurds. I was plum tickled with it.

Access is just one of the things we need to address, though. Predation, disease, drought, and a dozen other things may or may not be factors in the poor survival rate of deer here, and all need to be addressed. Worrying whether longtime residents should get extra bonus points is like putting Band-aids on our problem. Bill has some very good ideas and I believe is looking into the future. As a new father, I worry about the future of hunting, access, permit increases, etc. My biggest concern is being able to have this sport accessible and enjoyable for my son and God willing more children, when the time comes for them. I am not so concerned about long time residents acquiring more points, but rather ensuring that my children will be given at least the opportunity to develop a love and passion for this great sport. As Bill said, there are other problems that need to be addressed, every hunter with his/her own ideas of what is important. The bonus point system is never going to satisfy 100% of the people 100% of the time, neither will a change to the system.

I would like to think that it will fall this year, with my December tag that I have waited for for 13 years I also would like to think that I will be the hunter

Nice pics, thanks for sharing

This buck is 105 and some change, forget exactly what he scores. Taken on my last December hunt, 13 years ago. Could get a new mount. All bucks are rifle. This buck is 100 and a little change. I forget exactly what he scored. Never scored this buck but estimate him in the low 90's. I need a Booner for the wall with my December tag this year!! Once every 13 years..... It is time.

Let's say a person gets drawn for an early bull tag in a unit that has only 25 permits. Most Early Bull hunts have a ton of applicants (as do all prime hunts) so if there was a 3 year waiting period, there are only going to be 75 fewer people after the 3rd year of the system and each following year that could potentially put in for that unit or hunt. If we were to take the number of all the early bull hunts and discount those who drew for the next 3 years, it is still a very minimal amount of hunters. There is still competition with 1000's of people for a very limited amount of tags. With December whitetail tags being significantly reduced, the same would apply to them, just as mentioned above. Still a minute amount of people being sidelined for a few years. The draw odds do not go up substantially just the satisfaction of some, knowing that the guy that drew last year has no odds of getting the tag again for the next three years. It may be significant enough for elk hunts, if a person draws a bull tag, they are exempt from drawing another bull tag for 3 years. This may help odds a bit more. However, for Antelope and deer it would be difficult to put a dent in the odds. For antelope, there are just too few permits available . I don't think it would be a good idea for recruitment or retention to exempt thousands of people for three years just because they drew a deer tag, as they are all for antlered game

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Man I hope this don't jinx me 'cause I have been fairly lucky in the draws and I don't mind the current system but here is my opinion. I think the fairest way personally is to have a percentage set aside for non-residents, whatever that percentage may be. There, non-residents done. Residents have no preference, no bonus points, neither do non-residents, its strictly the luck of the draw. Pull the name out of the hat, its done. If you draw, you draw, if you don't you don't. Isn't this New Mexico's system?

For those that have a fall hunt that might have higher temperatures, cabelas is having a good sale on Kings Pro Hunter camo right now. http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/template...&id=0057321

I believe it is usually or predominantly due to the loss or damage to the testicles of the deer. The loss or lack of hormone that is responsible for the shedding of velvet is no longer in the deer, causing it to continually grow antler. If I'm wrong, someone correct me please.

Its been since 1996 for me drawing a December hunt. Finally got one this year. It sure is SWEEEEET isn't it?

They gotta get those 3 weekends in for the hunt. This year, we are lucky and get to add a few days to the December hunt and still have the 3 weekends! Congrats on your tag.

YESSSSSS SIR!!!! December whitetail baby! WOOOOOHOOOOO!!! Been 13 years since I had a December whitetail tag. Can't hardly wait. Hopefully a Booner will show up in the optics then in the scope then at my feet!!

With the technology going around today, the other states having what seems as a "results day" that is marked on the calender, one would think that they could implement a better system, one that wouldn't give them such a headache either. I would seriously think that there really has been something happen, given that results are not posted yet. The past however many years results have been posted a week sooner than now.

This is an awesome thread you posted here! That picture of the Kudu in the scope is a sweet pic. Thanks for posting these up and congratulations.

I would imagine that they are trying to get them out ASAP. Those poor ladies in the draw dept. gotta take calls from hundreds of folks askin' "when are they gonna be out?" I'm sure they would rather us hunters spend our time over the weekend wearing blisters on our fingers so as to not tie up the phone lines like we did for Elk and Antelope results, before next work week.

Tomorrow..... Maybe?

Its all a rush, waiting for results, seeing "They're up!!" on this board and then the few days after to see what everyone drew or didn't draw. Its all part of the game. I really do like however, how New Mexico gives you a date. Its not a game, other than having your card hit, but it gives folks a good idea of when and how they will know. I just don't understand how other G&F organizations have the capabilities of knowing exactly when they're released, and our G&F has no clue? In all reality, it may not mean a dang thing to anyone in that office. It is what it is and we can all wait?

The phone lines will be tied up and the web site will be locked tight for at least a week. When the Elk results came out I tried for 3 days to get results and finally had to set my alarm for 2am. This is why I call frequently. If I am one of the first ones to find out, I get to find out early while its still possible without all the busy signals. I don't have to worry about waiting and being absolutely useless for hours and hours pressing silly little buttons on my phone only to hear a busy signal and using language I shouldn't be using....... But actually, a busy signal might sound kinda nice right now

I was thinking the same thing. I have seen a few turtles out in the hills at times and have noticed they reak like no other.