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Not a bad profit for the cost of a ticket. I put several tickets in for that one.

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Do you have the top for it? Where you located?

If i hear from him today I'm still waiting to buy it

Ok so curious how many of you would or would not hunt with a snow camo bow. I have read that deer and big game cant see the camo or patterns anyways but Ive also read about deer using their white tail as a flag for danger. would be used for spot and stalk mainly. My main concern is how the animals would see or if it would matter.

Ok sounds good. Hoping to talk to you this afternoon

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ok gaiters, binos, adapter, harness and tripod as well as spotter are all claimed and pending pick up. I have returned pms on them. Hydro pack still available.

While i practice past that yardage frequently i have enough respect for my self not to shoot that far at an animal. Anyone else have opinions on this subject of snow camo?

yes I know the color doesn't matter but Im more concerned with the white of the bow and deer using their white tails to flag danger. I am curious if the white would draw more attention.

I have MX-2000 tri pod, Bushnell 18-36x50 spotting scope, Universal tri pod/bino adapter, Eye Shield eye cups (fits all binos), Barska 20x50 binos, Cabela's seclusion 3D bino harness, Allen bino harness/case, Outdoor Products hydro pack, 2 pairs of Whitewater snake bite guards. All items are in good usable condition. Would like items to go to someone that is in need or a beginner hunter. Available for pick up in East Mesa but possibly able to meet in Chandler. Please message if interested. Sorry but I am unable to get the photos to post but I can email them. Items do not have to go as a lot.

Yes i want them. Please call or text 4804528285

Ok guys and gals looking for feed back on these leagues. If you have any suggestions or comments please let us know. We are striving to keep customers happy and enjoying these leagues.

Ok due to the high demand we have updated our league formats and they will be starting Feb 11. You can now register and pay online so hurry and reserve your spot because they are filling up fast. Dart League.pdf

Ok thank you. Now we understand why everyone is entitled to a difference in opinion. My post on tolerances were not about the hit inserts. I've stated that 2x now. To the OP and anyone else best of luck on your arrow choice and i hope they fly straight and lead to kills that leave great stories and memories for years to come. To gotbow i apologize for stating my experience of working in the archery industry as my form of knowledge on a subject i deal with many times a day and do so for a living. I respect your opinion and will bow out from further discussion.

Thanks, at this time i will pass. Best of luck to you

Actually i think you misread my post. My tolerances were about vaps and i never said anything negative about axis as it is what i shoot. You are correct most shops don't use the epoxy, but most customers who want arrows don't want to wait 24hrs for epoxy let alone the over night time frame to build custom fletching colors. 95% of customers want arrows to go shoot on the range or at the least later that day.

please send more info on tripod like model number and such

It's somethingthat was measured with a digital caliper after trying to insert so many arrows and having issues with the inserts and fit. Most arrows with an insert/outsert have to have tolerance to allow fit. Think how much glue you put on one and how it would fit between the inserts and arrows if there was no tolerances

I wasn't saying the points are victorys fault. I simply am stating that the insert set up vaps use should have tighter tolerances. I'm glad you have +-1k arrows. Those are nice but the inserts remain the same for all. I am sure you have confidence in your arrows and that's important. The reason they make so many arrows by different brands is because not every one feels the same about every arrow.

ok well as many of you know all arrows have tolerances, a +/- 3 thousands tolerance means 3k either way so if one arrow is 3k+ and the next arrow from that group is 3k- then that's a 6k total difference and that's just in the arrow. now factor in the tolerances of the insert and the point or bh going in. well with vaps you have a possibility of 6k either way then when you add their inserts of the same and a point add that together. well 6k for the arrows and approx. 8-10k for the inserts and then approx another 8 for a point so 6+8+8=22k total thousands of tolerance levels. so one arrow can be 22k thousands different from the next in the same group in your quiver. none of this is including the weight difference. well tell me how many of you would go buy an expensive arrow that lists that much of a possible difference and be proud to shoot it and have no concerns about the accuracy difference. its just food for thought

I work for Archery HQ. I'll elaborate on tolerances in a bit when not on my phone

Working at a pro shop I've never heard of that issue with Axis. I've shot mine at 1/2" plywood and not broken the arrow. However the problem with Vaps are all the pieces together have tolerances and when you add up the variables in tolerances it's way worse than any cheap arrow. I broke two ribs and blew out a shoulder on my javi with my Axis 400. You jumped to a 340 for added weight but if you should be in a 400 spine you aren't shooting the right arrow spine anyways

Hey everyone the leagues are starting soon. Make sure to sign up and reserve your spot today. Please feel free to call the shop if you have any questions at 480-961-3100 Dart League.pdf Spot league.pdf

Well thanks to my buddy in the pic I was able to fill my 37b tag. My second kill with a bow 1st was a coatimundi.