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Only 16 spots left for the free Leupold scope. Need to register today. Look below for details. PM me for any specific questions. See Web site for Details. http://www.azsci.com/ Bob EVENT SCHEDULE: Saturday evening, January 30: Jim Shockey Meet & Greet Meet with Jim Shockey and the entire Shockey family and team for pictures, autographs, food & drink, and the chance to win tons of great prizes. At last year's event raffle and silent and live auction items included Primos ground blinds, a T/C Endeavor muzzleloader, Alpine Archery bows, SHE Safari clothing, ScentBlocker gear, African safaris, Alaskan fishing trips, Stealth Cam scouting cameras and MUCH more! Meet & Greet cost: $40/person. $70/couple. Kids under 18 FREE. Sunday afternoon, January 31: Jim Shockey Desert Golf Shootout Our 2nd Annual Shootout is limited to the first 100 entries with half of the proceeds bene- fiting Jim's fund to take military veterans on all-expenses-paid hunts that they could not oth- erwise experience. A portion of the funds also go to SCI's Education Foundation. Our first annual event raised more than $30,000 for these worthy causes! Following the tournament is an awards ceremony with an outdoors barbeque dinner at the Coyote Corral. Golf & Awards Dinner cost: $350/person, $1,400/foursome, includes FREE Leupold Ultimate Slam 3-9X scope, goodie bag, golf, awards dinner. To reserve your spot in the Jim Shockey Desert Golf Shootout and/or Meet & Greet, contact: Martin Charlton at mcharlton@loewshotels.com or by calling (520) 631-0078. Room Rates (Participants only): special of $159/night. To learn more about Loews Ventana Canyon Resort, visit http://www.loewshotels.com:80/en/Hotels/Tu...t/Overview.aspx

I have a solution. Stop hunting these units! Stop putting in for these tags. Did you know that December has the most drug smuggling activity since it is right after the Marijuana harvest. Please stop putting in for those late hunts. It is not worth the risk. Remember, Late hunt = DANGER! Be safe don't hunt 34-36 units. Bob

I think February is the most likely time for the rutt this year. In addition if we get no rain the rutt may not start untill late January 2011, Bob

QUOTE (ron b @ Oct 16 2009, 05:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I actually have two Cabellas walking sticks, will these suffice? I also forgot that I wil have to pack the rifle also. I will be out of town for a week, now I have something to comtemplate. Ron Ron that is why I suggested the pack above. Has a well throughout rifle scabbard that allows your hands to be free to use two walking sticks. The cabela's should be fine. Bob

Now I heard the same joke but it was Wisconsin not Texas. Bob

QUOTE (ron b @ Oct 15 2009, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am starting to get a better handle on this western style or hunting now. So I should pack my binoclulars, tripod, rangefinder, gps, rain geer, game bag (what the heck is a game bag), knife(s), minimal survival geer(matches, space blancke, gause, tewwsers,tape), water, sweatshirt, tp, something to sit on,etc. Then instead of going to my tree stand or my blind, I should walk a ridge or two to get away from the atv's and road hunters and set up for the day. I of course do this in the pre dawn and return at twilight. In the rare event I that I take a deer, I bone it and pack it out with proof of sex letft on hide and the head and now I have a pack that weight 60+ pounds. Oh yea, don't leave the knife in the gut pile. This sounds like more fun that I can imagine, especially never having done it this way and at 58. By the way, are there misquoties here and what kinds of temperatures will I hit just west of Fort H in the early Nov hunt? What am I missing? Ron You got it Ron! Quick learner. I don't remember insects bothering me on any of my hunts in November. By the way if you are lucky enough to get a deer it is OK to do two trips on the pack out. A lot of times these gray devils like to expire on the steepest hill in the unit so use common sense. Also add two walking sticks to your equipment list. Your 58 year old knees will thank me. Plus check out these packs. http://www.eberlestock.com/hunting.htm Very efficient way to carry all the stuff you listed. Probably the most useful hunting gear I have ever owned. Good luck, Bob

Jesse,At Saguaro bait and tackle is the only person besides myself that is allowed to touch my bow in Tucson. Fantastic service. So my advice to Tucson bowhunters. Buy a Mathews online and have it serviced at Jesse's. Or buy a Pse at Jesse's and have it serviced at Jessie's. Bob

Seriously this may sound ridiculous, but I think if i was in your buddies situation I would make the house more visible. One thing i could think of is putting a tall flagpole with a large flag waving during hunting season. Really no excuse for this. i am wondering if it was just shooters not hunters or possibly a Javalina season. i would hope a youth hunter would have more supervision than that. Bob

Scoutm', Keep him for yourself! Don't tell a friend! Are you kidding me. You want to walk into his house and look at your deer hanging on his wall. Do you think your buds are going to show you any appreciation. heck no. In a few years the story will change completely. Your role in the harvesting of that monster will diminish with every passing year. It will be like, " Oh yea Scout'm, were you there when I shot ole Mossy Horn. Maybe someday you will be as good a hunter as me." In addition every year a different friend will want the same treatment," You got Billy a big buck now it is my turn." Don't be everyones' "B----", besides the best Coues Hunters have no friends. Bob

Congratulations, on finding those bucks. That is a great job. I think your expectations of what buck to shoot should be determined by what tag you have and the size of the animals you are seeing while scouting. Both of those animals( I love this guide speak) are great represenation of the species. If you scouted and have not seen any bigger bucks it might be unrealistic to think you can come up with a bigger one (100") during the hunt, especially with a early hunt considering the legion of hunters you will be competing against. Different story if you found an isolated hunting area. For me (not a trophy hunter) I would proudly put my tag around either of those bucks. Good luck, Bob

Volunteer Wildlife Water Project 2 New Water Catchments in Unit 36A Mile Post 33 and 28 on the east side of highway 286. (Sasabe Highway south of Three Points, AZ) The Amado Catchment and Enriquez Catchment are named after the contractors who are donating their equipment for the projects. Both projects will be built simultaneously so we will need volunteers to help at each site. Each catchment is a newly constructed wildlife water catchment that will have over a 9,000 gallon storage capacity that will create a year round reliable water source for all wildlife. The money used to purchase materials for this project came from sportsman’s dollars (license fees, Governor’s tag and the Super Raffle). The project was a priority for the Tucson Habitat Partnership Committee (a group of local sportsman who work with the department to improve conditions for wildlife) and with your support, be an oasis for wildlife for many years to come. Build Schedule (Crews will begin early (7ish) everyday) Tuesday October 6th – Game and Fish Crews arrive with materials. Set up camp. Lay out dig area and prep materials for the build. Wednesday October 7th – Contractors arrive and begin digging. Thursday October 8th – Contractors complete holes and begin placing tanks. Friday October 9th – Volunteers arrive to assist with storage tank construction, metal aprons, and perimeter fence. Saturday October 10th - Volunteers arrive to assist with storage tank construction, metal aprons, and perimeter fence. Sunday October 11th – Volunteers arrive again to help finish the project. Anyone who is interested, please contact me so that I can give you meeting locations. Tucson Chapter of SCI will be helping with food and drinks so please give send us an RSVP so that they can provide enough food. Thank you and please feel free to forward to anyone who you believe would like to volunteer. Gabriel Paz Law Enforcement Program Manager, Tucson Arizona Game and Fish Department 555 N. Greasewood Road Tucson , AZ 85745 Office 520-388-4443 Cell Phone 520-975-5162 gpaz@azgfd.gov

Scotty, WAHOO, NICE JOB. congratulations. He is a nice bull! Maybe you should get a bayonet for that muzzy for that close in work. Bob

Denny can you either pm me the names of the tanks or list them here. These are all G+F game tanks right? In addition please look at my post in Miscellaneous about Coues. G+F are looking for volunteers for two new catchments in 36 A. AZSCI will provide lunch.

If its thick Manzanita, I think Mike is on the right track. You will need to hunt it like a bowhunt. Stand, blind,still hunt, feeder . Bob

You can reel in and shoot a carp on the same trip. Sorry had to go there. Bob

Before I really lose it. I think you experts should consider this. It is great to play the distance game how far is that rock, how far is that bush ect ect., But you guys know no amount of practice is going to prepare you for the moment of truth. Muliehunter was not hunting a blind. He was not stalking from a distance. He was not calling him in. NO!It was the "OH Sh$T!" there is an elk shot. Really be honest. Your on your first Elk hunt. You have no opportunities for a few days. Your getting a little discouraged. This is not like the Elk hunting video's. Then suddenly you see some Elk. The adrenaline starts flowing. You say to yourself, "yea I will shoot that four point ." Then suddenly El Hefe shows up. Come on, tell me the truth. Who would be playing the how far is that bush game when a 600 pound animal surprises you. If you can honestly say on your first elk hunt, Your first shot, under the same conditions, that you would of calmly guessed the distance and expertly dispatched the animal you know what, you don't belong on this thread. Your too good for us mortal hunters. What we need is some stories of great misses. Bob

Hey, I respect your decision. If its a terrible time why do it? Good luck on your Coues hunt. Bob

Awesome,Makes me hungry just looking at her. Congratulations. Bob

Yea Willie was my waiter last night, but imagine my surprise when Hedake Smith was his busboy! Bob

June, Well if you have a 32 tag maybe you should ask Mike (Gamehauler). He thinks all the Coues in Arizona live there. Personally I think 22 and 23 are where all the Coues live. I say always put 22 or 23 as first choice. Bob

Try: http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coronado/forest/re...ta_teresa.shtml

dillon_camo. It is not so much the E scouting, but your lack of contribution that irks people on the site. Members get real testy when people with less than 5 posts ask for input on a particular unit. Please contribute in other areas on the site. As already said the three main areas Huachuca's, Parker canyon lake and Canelo Hills are all good areas and all are listed on the G+F SITE. If you can get access The Mustangs have some good deer, yet it is probably the driest mountain range in southern Arizona. With the lack of rain we have had I would scout extensively before committing much time there. Lets face it this is a tough hunt that is why there is still left over tags for this unit. You are going to have to scout the unit hard or get real lucky. Good Luck, Bob

Mulie Hunter, You missed once? Big deal. Best thing you can do is forget about it. I heard it was a real tough elk hunt. If it was a normal Elk hunt you would of had a dozen shot opportunities, not one. I know the lack of opportunities and the slight piercing you gave this animal magnifies the miss, but I bet it is a very small group of Archers that have killed a bull on their first shot. I know I missed my first 5 or six shots at bulls. I have seen 3D tournament winners miss 20 yard shots at ELK. I will never let them forget it either. Trust me you will probably miss again if you keep bowhunting. Having a rangefinder handy definitely helps, but many times you will miss out on shots because your ranging instead of pulling back your bow. Just need to practice and get the confidence back up. Hunting Jacks with the bow really helps me become confident in hunting situations. Hope you get drawn real soon for the redemption bull. The best kind of bull that there is. Bob

June your post breaks my heart. I am obviously a failure as a communicator. Please reread all my posts. If you still think I am not firmly in your camp and basically wrote the same sentiments that you just did two short pages ago then please inform me where I went wrong. I'm the guy with a beautiful forky and dang proud of it. Dustin and Casey, glad everyone made nice.I think others will agree with me your personalities at least in writing are a small, little, tiny, tinsey bit a like. No who am I kidding you are a lot alike, so it is no wonder you butted heads. When they start pulling out the Monster Muley card you know we have crossed the line. I never really have been on that site, but I can tell they are nothing over there. Real gentlemen are on CWC Bob

Alright, Back on topic. A little prespective on the odds of getting Monster bucks year after year. One of my hunting buddies is probably the busiest taxidermist in Arizona. I get to hang around the shop when I have time. It is real nice to be able to get to handle a lot of true monster bucks. The reality is that about 70 % of the B+C bucks from Arizona are shot by people that just lucked into them. Most don't even realize they shot a true trophy. It is a real kick in the pants to tell them. They think they are getting their leg pulled until they are shown replicas of world record bucks. 15% are brought in by people who were professionally guided. Remember these guides may fill 30 tags a year, but they would be real lucky to get one client a year a 110 inch buck in Arizona. The other 15 % come from the hard core get a nice deer every year type. But most of those do not shoot a 110 " deer every year. Many are able to break the 100 threshold year after year, but the 110 is a huge barrier to most. Think about it. I have a pretty good memory. Of all the CWC members that post pictures, I can only think of 3 that have gotten 110 inch bucks in back to back years in Arizona. Maybe there is more than I realize. Lets do an informal poll. How many of you were able to harvest a 110 inch buck in consecutive years? Second question; How much time was put in to accomplish this? I am betting on a real short list. Bob