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Im sure there is about 10,000 others who would have liked a Goulds tag also, including myself.

We have killed at least 35 bucks in a 6.5x55 swede, mostly shooting 120 grain sierra pro hunters. The last few were taken with 120 grain Nosler ballistic tips. Try IMR 4895

At .590 inches tall will the AAE max hunters clear a whisker bisket rest?

I have 30 inch down rods on the cieling fans in my bedroom and they started swaying. My wife asked me if I had bumped them because it was very odd. I thought it might have been an errant breeze or something. I couldn't believe it when I logged on to the net tonight and saw that an earthquake had happened in baja at 3:40. Right about the time the fans started moving. I live in Safford.

26 points between my brother and I, Unit 1 archery bull. Almost out of the teens on antelope bonus points.

My brother and I drew unit 1 archery bull. I had nine points he had 16, 26 split between us. The last time I drew this tag I had 11 points. Thats just the way it is in AZ. I know it can be hard to take but it's the chance to join in on hunts with friends that get you through the long lean years.

I have Mesquite in Safford. 1 1/2 inch to 8 inch diameter mixed cords. Great mix for the backyard B.B.Q. or pit. Average diameter is probably about 3 1/2 inches. You load and haul, full cord. $ 200.00 You got to be careful with mesquite, it is illegal to cut or transfer on any public land. Private land mesquite can be cut and sold but by law must be accompanied by documentation of where harvested etc.

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$150.00 AAA blank and a $20.00 action, that's my Dad. He built up all those Arisakas on a decent piece of wood, cut the barrels to 20 inches, mounted pistol scopes on them, and sent them to kin in Wisconsin. Reinvented the brush gun. Been a lotta bucks fallin to those metrics.

I have 18 for goat also.

MY daughter shoots a NEF 7mm-08 and she weighs about a buck ten soaking wet. It has a nice pad on it and a 12 1/2 inch length of pull and she has put quite a few stiff reloads through it. Never has said anything about it kicking, so I'm not going to bring it up. She shoots 139 grain Hornadys backed by 40 grains of 25-20. Taken elk, deer, and a couple of "Michael Jacksons" including this one yesterday. Course she had to hold real High at a hundred yards because of the " rainbow arc" of the "anemic" round. I just wish we could get it to "bounce off" a few critters so I could get the blood out from under my fingernails. By the way LARK, my dad doesn't like it either. In his words, "Why would you go and buy that when you got a 6.5x55". The "GQ" shot

Dear Members and Friends, We have received a letter from our attorney, Karen Budd-Falen of Wyoming , regarding the costs to taxpayers from the non-profit environmental agencies that plague our nation and our rural lifestyles. I am unable to scan her letter and it is lengthy, so I have endeavored to duplicate it for you by hand. It is lengthy, but I hope that you will take the time to read it through and see just how close to the precipice we are and how much we need our people to stand up and be counted. Please print this letter for your reference with friends and email it to as many as you can, even your friends in the cities. Thanks, Cari Gillespie, Secretary Americans for Preservation of Western Environment Budd-Falen Law Offices, L.L.C. Karen Budd-Falen 300 East 18th Street Post Office Box 346 Cheyenne, Wyoming 82003-0346 Memorandum To: Interested Parties From: Karen Budd-Falen Budd-Falen Law Offices, L.L.C. Date: September 15, 2009 Re: Environmental Litigation Gravy Train Below please find a press release/Letter to the Editor regarding the amount of litigation filed by environmental organizations and the amount of attorney’s fees these groups have received from the federal government for these cases. I am sure that you will be as shocked by these numbers as I have been. Consider these facts: Between 2000 and 2009, Western Watersheds Project (“WWP”) filed at least 91 lawsuits in the federal district courts and at least 31 appeals in the federal appellate courts; Between 2000 and 2009, Forest Guardians (now known as WildEarth Guardians) filed at least 180 lawsuits in the federal district courts and at least 61 appeals in the federal appellate courts; Between 2000 and 2009, Center for Biological Diversity (“CBD”) filed at least 409 lawsuits in the federal district courts and at least 165 appeals in the federal appellate courts. In addition, over the last 15 years, the Wilderness Society has filed 149 federal court lawsuits, the Idaho Conservation League has filed 69 federal court lawsuits, the Oregon Natural Desert Association has filed 58 lawsuits, the Southern Utah Wilderness Association has filed 88 lawsuits and the National Wildlife Federation has filed 427 lawsuits. In total, the eight environmental groups listed above have filed at least 1596 federal court cases against the federal government. · Every one of the groups listed above are tax exempt, non-profit organizations. Every one of those groups listed above receives attorney fees for suing the federal government from the federal government. · These statistics do not include cases filed in the administrative courts, such as BLM administrative permit appeals before the Office of Hearings and Appeals or Forest Service administrative appeals. These statistics only include federal district court cases. On the other end, these same environmental groups are receiving billions of federal tax payer dollars in attorney fees for settling or “winning” cases against the federal government. Accurate statistics have not been kept by the Justice Department or the federal agencies, thus there is no accounting for the total amount of tax dollars paid, however, we were able to uncover these facts: There are two major sources for attorney fees that can be paid to plaintiffs that “prevail” in litigation either by winning a case on the merits or by the Justice Department agreeing that the group “prevailed” in a settlement by achieving the purpose of the litigation. One source of funding is called the “Judgment Fund.” The Judgment Fund is a Congressional line-item appropriation and is used for Endangered Species Act cases, Clean Water Act cases, and with other statutes that directly allow a plaintiff to recover attorney fees. There is no central data base for tracking the payment of these fees, thus neither the taxpayers, members of Congress nor the federal government knows the total amount of taxpayer dollars spent from the Judgment Fund on individual cases. The only information regarding these fees that is available is: In fiscal year 2003, the federal government made 10,595 individual payments from the Judgment Fund to federal court plaintiffs for a price tag of $1,081,328,420.00. In 2004, the federal government made 8,161 payments from the judgment Fund for $800,450,029.00. In 2005, 7,794 payments were made from the Judgment Fund for a total of $1,074,131,007.00. In 2006, the federal government made 8,736 payments from the Judgment Fund for $697,968,132.00. In only the first half of fiscal year 2007, the federal government made 6,595 payments form the Judgment Fund for $1,062,387,142.00. In total, $4,716,264,730.00 (that is billion with a “b”) in total payments were paid in taxpayer dollars from the Judgment Fund from 2003 through July 2007 for attorney fees and costs in cases against the federal government. The second major source of payments to “winning” litigants against the federal government is the Equal Access to Justice Act (“EAJA”). EAJA funds are taken from the “losing” federal agencies’ budget. Thus, for example, the attorneys fees paid under EAJA come from the “losing” BLM office’s budget. That is money that could be used for range monitoring, NEPA compliance, timber projects, archeology and cultural clearances and other agency programs. Within the federal government, there is no central data system or tracking of these payments from the agencies’ budgets. The only statistics we were able to compile are as follows: Between 2003 to 2005, Region 1 of the Forest Service ( Montana , North Dakota , Northern Idaho ) paid $383,094 in EAJA fees. Between 2003 to 2005, Region 2 of the Forest Service ( Wyoming , South Dakota , Colorado , Nebraska , Oklahoma ) paid $97,750 in EAJA fees. Between 2003 to 2005, Region 3 of the Forest Service ( Arizona , New Mexico ) paid $261,289.85 in EAJA fees. Between 2003 to 2005, Region 4 of the Forest Service (Southern Idaho, Utah , Nevada ) paid $297,705 in EAJA fees. Between 2003 to 2005, Region 5 ( California ) of the Forest Service paid $357,023 in EAJA fees. Between 2003 to 2005, Region 6 ( Washington state, Oregon ) of the Forest Service paid $282,302 in EAJA fees. Out of the 44 total cases in which the Forest Service paid EAJA fees between 2003 and 2005, nine plaintiffs were NOT environmental groups and 35 payments went to environmental group plaintiffs. We also tried to track the fees paid to environmental groups in certain federal courts. For example, in the Federal District Court for the District of Idaho, over the last ten years, WWP received a total of $999,190 in tax dollars for “reimbursement” for attorney fees and costs. Of the total cases filed by WWP in the Federal Court in Idaho, 19 were before Judge Winmill; eight of those cases resulted in a decision on the merits with WWP prevailing and with the total attorney fees being awarded of $746,184; six of the cases were settled by the federal government with a total attorney fees still being awarded of $118,000. WWP won one case but attorney fees were not paid. WWP lost six cases. There were two cases in which the documents indicated that the federal government agreed to pay attorney fees, but the payment amount was kept t confidential from the public. In my opinion, there are a lot of things wrong with this picture. The federal government is spending billions ( in tax payer dollars without any accounting of where the money is going or to whom it is going. There is no oversight in spending this money, especially the money that is coming out of agency budgets that should be funding on the ground programs to protect public lands, national forests, ranchers, recreationists, wildlife and other land uses. Nonprofit, tax exempt groups are making billions ( of dollars in funding; the majority of that funding is not going into programs to protect people, wildlife, plants, and animals, but to fund more law suits. Ranchers and other citizens are being forced to expend millions of their own money to intervene or participate in these lawsuits to protect their way of life when they have no chance of the same attorney fee recovery if they prevail. In fact, they are paying for both sides of the case, for their defense of their ranch and for the attorney fees for environmental groups receive to sue the federal government to get them off their land. There are also numerous cases where the federal government agrees to pay attorney fees, but the amount paid is hidden from public view. Somewhere this has to stop and the government has to be held accountable for the money it’s spending.

Christmas is every day for that guy!

Them wiener gourds come in 3 sizes, white, medium and african american!

Great looks, great balance, great rifle!

40 grains of AA 25-20 topped with a 139 grain Hornady SST. 25-20 dispenses smoothly through a powder measure. Also 42 grains of 25-20 topped with a 120 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip.

I wrap the bases and antlers in aluminum foil. It sounds funny but you can push the foil into all the little cracks around the bases. I then sparay the skull with a couple of coats of Krylon flat white. The flat white looks really good and seals the bone from any future oils rising to the surface to gather dust and turn the bone grey. It makes cleaning the skulls alot easier also. Try it on a pick up head and you probably will stay with it.

Mountain Mahogany finishes out really nice.

ADOT laying off 10% of WORKING employees. Closing down the majority of highway rest stops, but yet I have to watch some magg... buy $16.00 worth of candy and sodas with an EBT card ( replaced food stamps to make it more convenient, and less noticable ). The state needs to cut back alright, welfare would be a fine place to start.

Your taxidermist may never let you in his shop again, hardest thing to skin in the world and smell worse than a skunk! Very cool animal, everybody needs to take ONE, I hope your youths take the next ONE'S. I caught a couple in traps back in the day and it looked like a D9 had been caught. I killed a great big one one day while out with a friend who didn't hunt much and he had a hard time understanding my leaving him to rot. He was big, unique, beautiful, and dead. Had the opportunity at a couple since then but chose to enjoy the moment. Glad your getting it mounted, and congratulations on a really neat animal.

Thats nice to know! Good for Marlin!

There are some nice places off of the road leading into Hulsey lake. No facilities but easy access from off of the highway heading towards Springerville from Alpine.

Excellent!

Suzy was fortunate enough to draw her first choice elk tag in our favorite unit after ten years of applying. I know some of you are groaning about it only being ten years to get an early rifle bull tag but we actually talked to two other ladies who had drawn the same tag after three, and four years of applying. Our good friend Harry had drawn an archery bull tag in the same unit and we set up camp the Wednesday prior to his hunt and kicked it until opening day of the archery hunt. The first morning we got on a really nice bull we nicknamed stickers because he had an extra point on his right fifth, and fourth. It eventually fell apart when Harry got busted by a cow and that kind of set the pace for the rest of the hunt. We got rain, lots of rain, almost every day, and when it rained the bulls were bugling all day. We would hunt the mornings, come back to camp and eat a big breakfast and be back out before noon until dark. We had a couple of slow days here and there, but overall it was a really good season for bugling bulls and Harry had opportunity at several really BIG BULLS but was unable to connect. He could shoot four inch groups at camp at 60 yards but was unable to draw blood in the field. Harry has a great attitude though and was thankful that all the misses were clean and that no bulls were poorly hit. Another good friend Brian, also accompanied us and took some video of a really nice bull the second week of archery season. The video showed a pretty strong right side and a heavy left with a short fifth, but the bull seemed to constantly make right turns and we never could get a really good look at his left side in the jackpine cover he seemed to favor. The first morning of the rifle bull hunt we parked in the same area we had been hunting the previous two weeks and listened to a few screaming bulls until it got light enough to start our hunt. We honed in on a bull that had a bugle that we liked and the chase was on. Actually we parallelled him until we had the wind right and then cut him off by angling in. The bull was screaming often and a couple of satellites were keeping him busy as his cows fed out in front of us at 45 yards. Suzy was down on one knee and was having a really hard time containing herself as the bull bugled and carried on just out of sight in the pines. I told her a couple of times to "don't move" but she looked like one of those bobblehead dolls to me, and apparently the cows as they bolted just when the herd bull stepped out. We ran and circled, caught our breath and ran and circled some more, passing up three smaller six point bulls as we tried to stay with what we thought was the largest bull bugling. I saw some cows in the trees and threw up my glasses only to see a dink and for a second thought that we had lost him, but we heard a bugle in the distance and continued our pursuit. Eventually we climbed out of the flats up onto what we call "Bull Rim". Four different times in the prior two weeks we had climbed this rim to have a nice bull standing within 100 yards. It seemed that once they reached their bedding area they would relax. I know you are not supposed to hunt the bedding areas but we found different bulls in there each time and even if we busted them they would be back in the same area in two days, so what the heck. I caught antlers in the sunlight and got a quick look at him before he disappeared in the jack pines. I recognized him as the bull from the video but his fifth looked shorter on his left and something about his left side seemed odd. Of course in the few seconds I had to look him over he always angled to the right. I told Suzy that she should probably take this bull if we got the chance, but he quickly disappeared. We moved up about ten yards and had a bedded cow lock us up. The cow eventually got up and moved deeper into the jack pines and a couple of minutes later a cow bolted through the trees. I cow called to try and calm them down and Harry bugled from behind us. Between Harry's bugling, and Brians cow calling the bull hung up and barked at us about 10 times before ghosting out of the thicket at about 150 yards. A 150 grain Nosler Partition backed by 57 grains of 4831 leaped out of Suzy's 270 and the bull just sucked it up. The second shot kicked up dirt as he bolted for cover but the third shot hit home again. We found him layed up not far away after giving him some time. A little ground shrinkage at recovery when we first viewed him but he is a really nice solid bull grossing 322 at basically a 6x4. Suzy was really excited, but saddened that the hunt ended on the first morning. The rest of us felt the same way. Special thanks to Harry and Brian for the help and the you cant beat a Ranger for getting them out in one piece.

My grandparents, Elton and Constance Bingham. This picture was taken in northern Wisconsin in 1930. My grandparents owned a dairy farm in Milton and at that time their was no deer in the county. Now there is a deer per two acres. Grandad shot a Remington model 14 pump in 30 Remington, spiral magazine. We still have it. Exceptional American craftsmanship. Grandma would brown chunks of meat and place it in ceramic crocks covered in boiling hog lard. Stored in the cellar it would last for over a year.