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  1. Amanda if this is in the wrong section then I apoligize. This should open ypur eyes and make your blood boil. Activist ‘green’ lawyers billing U.S. millions in fraudulent attorney fees Radical environmental groups have ripped off taxpayers to the tune of $37 million. By Richard Pollock, PajamasMedia.com, March 4, 2010 Without any oversight, accounting, or transparency, environmental activist groups have surreptitiously received at least $37 million from the federal government for questionable “attorney fees.” The lawsuits they received compensation for had nothing to do with environmental protection or improvement. The activist groups have generated huge revenue streams via the obscure Equal Access to Justice Act. Congressional sources claim the groups are billing for “cookie cutter” lawsuits — they file the same petitions to multiple agencies on procedural grounds, and under the Act, they file for attorney fees even if they do not win the case. Since 1995, the federal government has neither tracked nor accounted for any of these attorney fee payments. Nine national environmental activist groups alone have filed more than 3,300 suits, every single one seeking attorney fees. The groups have also charged as much as $650 per hour (a federal statutory cap usually limits attorney fees to $125 per hour). In well over half of the cases, there was no court judgment in the environmental groups’ favor. In all cases, whether there was any possible environmental benefit from the litigation is highly questionable. Most cases were simply based upon an alleged failure to comply with a deadline or to follow a procedure. A whistleblower who was employed for 30 years by the U.S. Forest Service told Pajamas Media: Some organizations have built a business doing this and attacking the agencies on process, and then getting “reimbursed.” This week a bipartisan group of congressional members introduced legislation to end the secrecy of the payments and force the government to open up the records to show exactly how much has been paid to the groups and the questionable attorney fees. The legislation was sponsored by Rep. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyoming), Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-SD), and Rep. Rob Bishop (R-Utah). Congressional sources have said the disclosure was necessary to determine the extent of fraud and abuse. The $37 million is considered only a fraction of what has been paid out to the activist groups. “For too long, taxpayers have unwittingly served as the financiers of the environmental litigation industry,” Rep. Bishop, who also is the chairman of the Congressional Western Caucus, said. Rep. Herseth Sandlin remarked: “Simply put, this legislation is about ensuring good and open government.” “It’s time to shine some light [on the program],” explained Rep. Lummis, who said the groups have created an industry that “supports their ‘stop everything’ agenda.” The $37 million figure is considered low. It includes less than a dozen groups and only accounts for cases in 19 states and the District of Columbia. There are hundreds of eco-activist groups in the United States. According to the whistleblower who served in the U.S. Forest Service, environmental activist groups typically file identical lawsuits to multiple agencies on procedural grounds, such as a missed deadline. The identity of the huge revenue stream was established by the Western Legacy Alliance (“WLA”), along with Wyoming-based attorney Karen Budd-Falen. Western Legacy Alliance was founded in 2008 by ranchers and resource providers who raise beef and lamb on public lands of the West. What they found was astounding. Examining court records in 19 states and in the District of Columbia, the total amount paid to less than a dozen environmental groups exceeded $37 million. “This is just the tip of the iceberg,” says Budd-Falen. “We believe when the curtain is raised we’ll be talking about radical environmental groups bilking the taxpayer for hundreds of millions of dollars, all allegedly for ‘reimbursement for attorney fees.’ And what is even more maddening is that these groups are claiming that they are protecting the environment with all this litigation when not one dime of this money goes to projects that impact anything on-the-ground related to the environment. It just goes to more litigation to get more attorney fees to file more litigation.” The whistleblower, speaking anonymously, told Pajamas Media the payments to the activists groups were “quite astronomical.” The former government agent was a line officer in a high-ranking position. That whistleblower added that the filings by the radical groups often were “canned” petitions that contained little research. In this way, environmental groups could pepper government agencies with a flood of lawsuits without much work. “They will send a myriad of lawsuits across the bow to try to stop a number of projects or programs and then they hopefully will score with one or two,” he said. He saw a lot of the activist lawsuit filings because he had been attached both to the Forest Service’s Washington headquarters and to its field offices. “Then they will send in bills that are quite frankly, quite astronomical compared to the actual work they had to do to file an actual lawsuit. Many of the lawsuits are filed under a lot of canned material, yet the hours and rates that they charge were quite high.” Here is a sampling of the number of assembly line “lawsuits” filed between 2000 and 2009 that have been painstakingly identified by the Western Legacy Alliance and Budd-Falen. Activist group Western Watersheds Project filed 91 lawsuits in the federal district courts; Forest Guardians (now known as WildEarth Guardians) filed 180 lawsuits; the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) filed at 409 suits; the Wilderness Society filed 149 lawsuits; the National Wildlife Federation filed 427 lawsuits; and the Sierra Club filed 983 lawsuits. These numbers do not include administrative appeals or notices of intent to sue. Even local or regional environmental groups have figured out ways to turn on the taxpayer spigot. WLA found the Idaho Conservation League filed 72 lawsuits and the Oregon Natural Desert Association filed 50. The Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance filed 88 lawsuits. At last count, just eight local groups in nine Western states have filed nearly 1,600 lawsuits against the federal government. On the national level, over the last decade nine national environmental groups have filed 3,300 cases against the federal government. As is usual, the vast majority of the cases deal with the alleged procedural failings of federal agencies, not with substance or science. Said the Forest Service officer: “A lot of times they will sue on process, and not on substance. And substance means what difference does it mean for the resource, or what’s going in on the ground? A lot of times, it will be a process lawsuit and a lot of times the agency either missed something. … The bottom line is many, many times, when you look at the results on the ground, it [the environmental group winning the litigation] would have made very little difference.” Karen Budd-Falen said that the cases amounted to a ripoff of taxpayers and rewarded radical groups with millions of dollars. “Although those of us involved in protecting property rights and land use in the West were aware that radical groups were getting exorbitant fees simply be filing litigation against the government, we had no idea of the magnitude of the problem.” Budd-Falen highlighted one case that typifies the gravy train that has flowed to environmental groups. In 2009, the Earthjustice Legal Foundation represented the Defenders of Wildlife, the Sierra Club, the Wilderness Society, and the Vermont Natural Resources Council in a case dealing with the process used by the Forest Service to adopt some regulations. The Earthjustice Legal Foundation filed for attorney fees for that single case that took only one year and three months to complete. The same suit was filed by the Western Environmental Law Center on behalf of other environmental groups. The seven total attorneys who worked on the case billed the federal government $479,242. They charged between $300 to $650 per hour, far above the statuary federal cap of $125. The case was resolved at the district court level and the federal government did not appeal. The Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) also files a significant amount of litigation and receives lucrative attorney fees. In Washington State Federal District Court alone, CBD received attorney fees totaling $941,000 for only six cases. In the District of Columbia, it received more than $1 million in fees. Fourteen groups identified as recipients of the Act’s funding are: the Sierra Club, Center for Biological Diversity, Colorado Environmental Coalition, Forest Guardians, National Wildlife Federation, Natural Resources Defense Council, Western Watersheds Project, Defenders of Wildlife, Alliance for the Wild Rockies, WildEarth, Oregon Natural Desert Association, Oregon Wild, Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance, and Wyoming Outdoor Council. One of the fourteen groups, the Center for Biological Diversity, called the two Republicans and one Democrat “rabid right-wingers” and said that the charges of abuse was “patently false and patently ridiculous,” according to Bill Snape, senior council for CBD. Another study from Virginia Tech University discovered similar findings as a result of a comprehensive Freedom of Information Act request to five federal agencies. The Virginia Tech study also revealed that two of the agencies could provide absolutely no data on the Act’s payments. Environmental organizations are among the most financially prosperous non-profits in the country. The Sierra Club alone in 2007 reported its total worth as $56.6 million. According to 2007 Internal Revenue Service records, the top ten environmental presidents receive as much as a half million dollars a year in annual compensation. Fred Krupp, the president of the Environmental Defense Fund, Inc reported $492,000 in executive compensation in 2007. The top ten highest grossing environmental executives all received at least $308,000 in compensation. Environmental activist groups also have been among the most influential in throwing around political money. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, between 2000 and this year activist environmental political action committees have given $3.4 million in campaign contributions to candidates for federal office. About 87% of the money went to Democrats. Richard Pollock is the Washington, D.C., editor for Pajamas Media and the Washington bureau chief of PJTV.
  2. ThomC

    Best stool for a ground blind?

    My lounger has a infared motion detector on it that vibrates and wakes me up when the quarry is near. LOL
  3. ThomC

    Best stool for a ground blind?

    It depends on the size of your butt. Those little triangular stools are unconfortable for me. Those little camp stools that fold up cut off the circulation to my legs after a while. The best for me is a armless folder, I also put my ground cushion on it. The important thing is to get as confortable as possible so you can last all day. Also you want to practice shooting off the stool and out of the blind. To pass the time I take my camera, tripod, and binocs to take pictures of other wildlife that I see.
  4. As to saving the meat. After the impact with a vehicle the animal will be bruised badly with possible massive internal injuries. Most likely not much edible meat.
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    Odd color up or down????

    I grew up with the odd color out and I still do it that way. It works with any rest. Actually I fletch my arrows with all the same color and mark the out feather/vane with a marking pen.
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    WHAT UNIT ??????????????

    If you see it on the internet then it probably is not the truth anyway. Not that you'll are lying, just some. LOL The worlds record coues was not taken in Pima County.
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    Draw results

    You lose a bonus every time you call and ask the stupid question. LOL
  8. Did you proof read your post Mr. azoutlaw? I disagree with your "most of them are idiots" I am sure that you are "full of prunes." And "this crap" is a great comment. But, "shouldnt" and "supprise" need work.
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    Baby boy names

    Nobody likes Barack?
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    Who uses Twitter?

    Well with my oldtimers setting in I guess that I had better stay away from it (twittering).
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    Who uses Twitter?

    I too googled twitter and discovered it is like a tree full of birds chatting or tweeting. I agree with Amanda it sounds stu*id. I cannot decipher Bill Quimbys "M20l4it. The closest that I could come is "my 2 hole for it".
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    Who uses Twitter?

    I wonder how much time is wasted twittering, talking, and posting drivel. I think that the long term loss of time will rise up and bite us just like borrow and spend did and overpopulation will. Has anyone read "Last Child in the Woods?" It discusses "nature deficit disorder" that our children are aquiring. Children were asked where would you like to play, indoors or outdoors. Many answered "indoors, there are more outlets in there." The other day all of the computers in the office went down. People didn't know what to do. Work came to a stop. I don't know what twittering is. My first thought was it is a cell phone thing. ???? I only use the cell for convience never to chat. I have never texted and don't want to. I use a camera to take pics. I hardly ever post on the internet because you youngsters don't understand my old fuddy duddy facts. Yes, I am an old timer and I now know why old people for a long time have been saying "THE WORLD IS GOING TO H***. As Mr. Quimby asked "would someone please explain how this works." I do like to try to keep up a little bit with the new stuff, even though I probably will never use it.
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    Technical Difficulties

    The same person that handles the calls is also processing the apps.
  14. ThomC

    Cards

    I agree except for the "go Steelers part." I am for the house of cards because it will bring money to AZ.
  15. ThomC

    when do you mount yours?

    Ernesto was making a funny (I think) but it went unnoticed. LOL
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    Dead deer?

    Second guy needs a bear tag.
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    Deer & Cattle

    As a general rule different species tend to stay with their own kind. So, I wouldn't expect to see deer hanging around cows very long. One year I was Elk Hunting and a rancher had let loose hundreds of heifers in my favorite spot. Every water hole had some hanging around. The stupid things would actually follow me around. As, you would expect the Elk had left. I believe that the answer is "it depends". Coues Deer can be found almost anywhere on a given day. You have to look every everywhere. As to the side topic "who is more important the rancher or the hunter". It's the same answer " it depends". The real problem is in the numbers. How many people, cows, deer, ranchers, hunters can an acre support and maintain a reasonable life style. And what lifestyle do you call reasonable? China is an example of what we could become if we don't watch out.
  18. The AZ draw results are up? Which do you believe? LOL I was drawn but I hope to throw it away because of success in August. Yes, I buy two deer tags a year. The Pres says Good Luck to all.
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    AGFD budget sweeps

    It would be nice to find out who the elected officals that are responsible for the theft. So, we can vote them out.
  20. Answer: Not much - humans put out 100 times more, every year, volcanoes only go off every few years. Okay, lets get rid of humans.
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    Changes in 2008

    I didn't see anyone at the Tucson office. You all missed a good chance to have a one on one with Jim Heffelfinger.
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    salt and feed no more in 2009

    I am against baiting with a machine or specially prepared food. I am not against salt because salt is everywhere now and not that effective. One of the problems with deer food is that some people are using a big pile of deer food with molasses to lure in bears. It is always the scofflaws that create more restictive rules. The scofflaws are always looking for loop holes to take an unfair advantage. It is supposed to be hunting not shooting.
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    salt and feed no more in 2009

    Now that is funny Tony. Please give us your definition of "bait".
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    Merry Christmas to ME

    Is it not funny that you all "love the one you got?" Or "the more money you spend the better it is." Or "mine is better than yours." Or "your mother wears combat boots." Oops, you youngsters won't understand that one. LOL
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