Vinnie B

I am not sure what happened yesterday evening while out glassing, I am hoping it was mistaken identity and not giving up too soon and shooting another bull this soon. Anyway, while glassing last night I am watching a bull (decent 6x6) and see him jump and take off running, then I notice an arrow sticking out of him, not a perfect shot but not too bad either just a little far back. Then I see a guy following him right away, pushing him and the bull keeps going. The bull loses the arrow or breaks it off and has a pretty good blood spot on his side but then I lose track of them over the side of the hill. Not 30 minutes later I see a 6x7, definitely not the same bull or frame even really close to this action. This bull was bugling and must have been coming into a call by his actions, then I watch him get hit by an arrow and run a few feet and fall over. I t was the same shooter just a different bull. So anyway, whoever shot the 6x7 in 22s yesterday evening I think you have another bull laying out there somewhere .

Unfortunately, It happens way more than we all think. We all have heard people talk about shooting multiple animals I'm sure, just watching it go down was an entire different thing. With more people out and better optics it's safe to say someone is always watching.

I don't recall saying he is? Just sharing what I saw

Dang I wish I was going to be in the valley this weekend. Great deal!!!

2017 Polaris ranger XP 1000 hunter edition. Half windshield, roof, rear window, winch, gun cases, rock sliders. I'll have to look at the paper work but I think the extended warranty is still valid and transferable

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lots of good ideas on this thread already. Lets get those thoughts clarified on paper, pick a person to present them and lets get moving. I tend to agree with the auction tags. But I will definitely set my thoughts on that aside if we have a better way. lots of good ideas on this thread already. Lets get those thoughts clarified on paper, pick a person to present them and lets get moving. I tend to agree with the auction tags. But I will definitely set my thoughts on that aside if we have a better way.Agreed there are a lot of good ideas already in this thread but I'm still trying to get an answer on how the proposed auction tag idea from the CAP guys would work when 100% of the monies generated from these tags would go back to the G&F. Since you tend to agree with auction tags can you answer for me?The proposed auction tag money would not be handled by CAPAZ. This would be handled by Game and Fish to do the kind of education not allowed by Pittman Robertson. The political funds would be handled by CAPAZ, and not come from autions or raffles.Thanks for the reply I but that didn't answer my question. How are the political funds that are to be handled by the CAPAZ going to be raised? If none of the money generated from these auction tags is going to the CAPAZ political funds then why are the tags needed by the CAPAZ in the first place?CAPAZ doesn't need the tags. I think this is what we have all been saying, so thank you for agreeing with us

I have no problems with my self reflections as I have donated time, money and labor on many hunting and veterans projects throughout my life and guess what I have never once asked for thank you, praise or anything of the such. I did it because I wanted to and not for any reward or grandstanding

If they want so much help and support from the average sportsman now after the fight so they can get these auction tags is kind of like wanting a reward for their deed. I feel they should have come on here during the fight and said we need help to fight this thing right now and lets see how many people we can get out there to help us defeat HSUS. Maybe I missed their post asking for help as I am not on here much and if I did that is my bad

I thought someone was saying earlier that this was needed because Game and Fish can't use funds for politics? Now it is 100% of funds go to G&F for education? Something is not adding up on this. I agree with the $5 education stamp and would pay it, but just like the HSUS they will be back trying to get more tags again in a few years

I am glad I live too far away, it saves me 400 bucks.

You have some pretty nice old guns that you sell. I am glad I have willpower to just say NO, this one is tough tho

It is sad that these mentally ill people keep doing this shoot, but they can push gun control all they want and it is a bullshit arguement. If it were truly about protecting lives they would put safety measures everywhere. How many accidents are caused by cell phone use? I think about 25%, It wouldn't be too hard to enable our phones GPS so if it were moving faster than 5mph the phone temporally can't be used. That will never happen because theyll say what about the person not driving? Who cares, safety is safety you lose your privileges because of the few that screw it up for everyone. What about DUI related death? 10,000 plus per year, Every vehicle has to have a breathalyzer thingy. Wait that's not fair I dont drink a drive nor even drink, suck it up buttercup it's for safety so you lose... How many violent crimes are committed by illegals every year? 1 is too many!! that could all be prevented if they werent here illegally.. None of these things will EVER happen because it would inconvenience the masses and when it comes down to it they don't really care about saving lives just controlling guns

So you can vote and die for your country but not own a firearm? In every other instance this would be cried upon as discrimination... If you are not mentally capable of owning a gun until 21 you definitely should not be driving a car until then either.. How many kids are killed in cars each year? This is from the CDC website Motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for U.S. teens.1 Fortunately, teen motor vehicle crashes are preventable, and proven strategies can improve the safety of young drivers on the road. How big is the problem?In 2015, 2,333 teens in the United States ages 16–19 were killed and 235,845 were treated in emergency departments for injuries suffered in motor vehicle crashes.1 That means that six teens ages 16–19 died every day from motor vehicle injuries. In 2013, young people ages 15-19 represented only 7% of the U.S. population. However, they accounted for 11% ($10 billion) of the total costs of motor vehicle injuries.1

If they pulled your application fee and you didn't get your tag because the card was declined you should not have lost your loyalty points as you had already applied and it should have been the same as not drawing a tag. They received their money just as not drawing a tag so you needed to talk with someone else on that matter

Pm sent... I was up there all weekend and am heading back up Thursday as well

I just had Exede installed in Tonto. 150G per month and they have plans from 69 -99 depending on the speed you want. I'm happy with it so far

If this was 2-3 months from now I'd be all over it, looks like a nice truck

Is this still available?

Derek at AZEX is in Queen Creek 480-507-0200

I didn't get drawn for elk or antelope. 23 points for antelope and 5 for elk and I put in for easy to draw elk tags. oh well that's how it goes. Maybe if everyone keeps bitching they'll make everything over the counter and everybody can have their early bull tag instead of waiting 20 years. Then we can an all switch our bitch to there ain't no big elk left cause they made it over the counter. It's a no win situation for either side

I have 3 full boxes of 165 grain Triple shock 30-378. I found them in the closet and don't even have the gun anymore. $110 each or all 3 for $300. Located in Payson

SPF to Jman

Hookers,blow and bulls? dang I wish I had more points sounds like a Hunt of a Lifetime for sure. Maybe I can just pitch in and bring the stripper pole mounted on a trailer and supply some of the cash for the ladies