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    2 minutes ago, wish2hunt said:

    Biden had them do it.

    they realized the priced it at what it used to sell for after hours Saturday!  

    A week ago in Flag, Sunday morning, there was a lot of ammo put out Saturday night.  At opening there were were only 8 people in the store, but within 15 min there were 300 as someone posted it on Facebook... 

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    This can be a lot of fun, hunted traditional style for years.  I started hunting deer with an Indian Bow in the early 70s.  Brothers shot Wing & Bear Bows.  I won a Javalina contest in the early 80s after hearing all the bragging crap from some of the guys who were shooting incredibly fast arrows & far at pigs, so for the last week in January (season back then was for the month of January, all archery tags were OTC), put down my Jennings & killed a huge pig w/cedar shafts (my own from blanks), turkey feathers, & Black Diamonds out of a 50# Bear Grizzley.  It was awesome & a lot of fun!  It put those bragging jerks in their place too being beat by a traditional archer (14-5/8" skull).

     

    As stated earlier, start slow (poundage-wise), but know it's very different & you'll likely need to change your whole outlook & approach to be "successful" (whatever that means).  I also suggest reading the book, Hunting with the Bow and Arrow by Saxton Pope.  Original was printed in 1923, reprint in 1947, & in 2011.  (Name of the author sound familiar?)  Pope & Young also taught Fred Bear as Ishi passed before Fred came into the picture as I recall.  

     

    If this book doesn't get your heart pumping for traditional style hunting, don't put down your compound bow.

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    Regardless of the cards being hit today or later, this year is unlike any other year.   Here we are two weeks after the original "CC update deadline" & tens of thousands of us are still honestly hopeful our cards may get hit, and for many they will!

     

    That's both sad & enigmatic!

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    2 hours ago, azelkhunter69 said:

    Wow, I thought this topic was dead.  Obviously, since the whole draw/CC deadline issue was settled, we moved on to different things to argue about.  To put a cap on this, at least for me, I was just curious what others thought when I originally posted.  It is a subject that intrigues me.  Also, I was trying to figure out what kind of hunts we would put in for.  I am not a guy, nor is my family, one to put in for trophy hunts exclusively.  I love to hunt elk, whether it be cows, bulls, rifle, bow, muzzleloader, etc.  Of course, I want to kill a big bull as much as the next guy.   It was different in years past, where I had many family members applying for elk.  I was willing to wait and put in for early archery hunts for myself, but I got to go on hunts almost every single year for the last 20 because someone got drawn for some kind of hunt.  Well now, my kids are either in school or the military, my dad has passed and my mom has decided since my dad is gone, she no longer has the desire to hunt.  So each year, I pick and choose what kind of hunts I am going to apply for, knowing that I don't have many more archery bull hunts left since I am 52 now and with the way the point creep is going.  The way things were shaping up this winter as I saw them, I/we decided we would just put in for "meat" hunts this year.  Better odds for those of you putting in for early archery hunts!!  I could be wrong and it could be a great year, but I will never regret a day chasing elk...no matter what season.   I hope to see some pics of monsters from you guys in September.  Good luck guys and gals.

    wow, you must be pissed! (because you wrote a book!  haha, sorry  bad joke, was referring to another comment in another thread 🤣)  IMHO, this topic has a lot to do with P&Y/B&C) score.  

     

    As far as being 52... I'm well beyond that but this hardly concerns me regarding applying for Sept bull tags!  Everyone has a chance every year to draw tags, but one can be clever about their 1st & 2nd choices too.

     

    & I wish you all good luck in the draw too, especially if I draw one of those coveted tags!  😁

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    4 hours ago, huntlines said:

    Geez, I thought some of you were pissed. A guy who writes a book must be imploding with anger.

    I'm hardly "imploding with anger" 🤣, just calling BS when I see it & backing it up.  

     

    Just because someone "backs up" what they post hardly proves they're angry... passionate perhaps, but not necessarily angry.

     

    I did find it interesting however that you latet noted, "I never said I didn't like the post..."  👍  😁

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    2 hours ago, Ohthatguy said:

    The draw was completed 2 weeks ago.

    A 3rd party CC processing company screwed the pooch forcing a delay in CC hits and in turn either to be fair to customers or by mandate, GnF extended the CC update deadline.

    GnF didn't screw anything up other than the portal info which they have already said has nothing to do with the draw.

    I'm calling BS on this as the g&f said publicly they were, "Continuing to validate more than 150,000 applications." 

     

    Sounds to me like you you're just stirring crap up!  🤔

     

    1 hour ago, Ohthatguy said:

     

    I was just making a point. Thanks for playing.

     

    I should have guessed... with a screen name like yours!  🤣

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    Here in Williams today, it's supposed to snow up to 10 inches between now and Saturday.  While it'll likely be less than that, every little bit helps.  I was out in unit 8 over the past weekend and while the tanks are very low, there is at least some water in many of them now.  Also, the ground is quite saturated below the pine needles, so at least it's not "dry" yet.    

     

    That said, it's still not a lot of moisture this year for great antler growth.  So if you're of the mindset that you need a great bull, you may want to cancel your CCs tonight to save your bonus points as well as not wasting the $150 on the tag you're probably turning back in anyway (assuming you bought the insurance)!  😁

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    15 hours ago, lancetkenyon said:

    Or UV brightener in the laundry detergent? 

    use a detergent that doesn't have UV brightener in it... Use a black light on them before& after you use a "hunting/sports" wash & you'll be amazed at the difference.   Been using "hunting detergent" since the early 80s & it makes a difference!

     

    I don't use fabric softeners on hunting clothes...

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    Well, at least we can all rest in the peace of mind that it's likely all of our Commissioner's & every g&f employee's portals have been updated so they know their apps show correctly & current CCs are "good-to-go" so if/when we feel a need to contact them in the future they honestly believe the draw was fair, whenever it happens!  😁

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    3 hours ago, eddielasvegas said:

    Yes, I am not excusing the way it's been handled, 

     

    Eddie

    Sounds like you are...

     

    Where do you come off calling those of us who aren't happy with how this is being done as "complainers"?  FYI, in case you didn't realize, the G&F made over the cost of 50 full time employees at an expense of $55K/year each, on this draw alone!  That's astounding!  That's $2.782M on app fees alone, or over 100,000 paid MHs!  That doesn't include the $10M (perhaps more) made in hunting licenses and tag fees on this draw.

     

    I for one am also calling BS on the excuse of 17,000 "additional" applicants... SO WHAT, that's only a 10% increase in last year's elk/antelope draw.  An electronic system, which we have now, should be able to handle 100x that number with ZERO IMPACTS,  Besides, how does this year's elk/antelope application numbers compare to last year's deer, bighorn, turkey, bison, etc. applications?  More excuses...

     

    As far as your comment, "making what the folks at the G&F do...." remember this.  They're all STILL EMPLOYED!  Not everyone is!!  Not only that, they work for us, and the G&F is a State Agency that is supposed to have accountability for how they run "their operation".  If it weren't for us (through license and tag fees), none of them would be employed, but they act as though we work for them!  I seriously doubt we'll ever hear what was done wrong, or how they're going to improve on the obvious mistakes made this year.  If the G&F was a private company competing with other private companies they'd be out of BUSINESS by now! 

     

    As far as it not making any difference to you in your planning process, I'm happy for you.  Remember however that there are many out here that can not reasonably afford to apply in another state and possibly end up in tags for both (I made the same point over a week ago about the same thing in another thread).  Some of us have to budget our funds appropriately, and the g&f being late by what's going on two weeks now, is to me inexcusable.  It reeks of incompetence, plain and simple.  Note they also said that this may go into next week as well before the draw is held, which would be double the 17 days they had since the draw closed to hit the "DRAW" button (when CCs could no longer be updated, which is another topic all together).

     

    So, we pay them very well, every year, yet they still don't appear to have the draw system figured out?  There is no reason that this system shouldn't be flawless by now.  I for one don't trust them.  Know I used to work for a State Agency and know full well the corruption that was and can be prevalent in State Agencies that the public will never know about.

     

    BTW, it's not all bad, and I personally have and will continue to hunt with past G&F WMs, great friends!  They worked very hard and were committed to their professions, as I am.  What I'm referring to above is how the current draw system needs to be corrected, and perhaps have the supervisors and department heads held accountable for their work.  They also should IMO have a change of attitude towards us in general knowing full well the department should be accountable for the services WE fund, period.  Why not trying to BE HONEST WITH US for a change!

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    Just got a response to an email with a G&F Hunt/Draw "CSR".

    She said, after apologies, "applications are still being verified and to still have funds available into next week, possibly the week after.  So all I would say is to still have funds available for 2 more weeks.  Hopefully we'll be hitting cards soon than that." 

    She indicated they too are locked out of making any changes (to CCs) as well after the 25th deadline hit.  She understands the "canceled card" concerns, but if any changes will be made it'll likely be posted through "ENews-go" from the G&F online.

     

    Maybe we need to hit Sam's Club or Costco to stock up on mood altering refreshments after work while we patiently wait!

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    7 minutes ago, JBenz63 said:

    That’s about when they posted last year to the portal. They just referenced the year prior as a guess

    I agree, they're referring to when the portal is expected to be updated.  CC hits are not "results"... 

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    2 minutes ago, MULEPACKHUNTER said:

    They really just need to do away with the volunteer deal. If they could make a few bucks from classes there would be a bunch each month.

    3 of my brothers are FS Instructors.  I believe they keep a portion of the class fees to pay for supplies, but not their time.  They do it because they are committed to teaching hunting morals & ethics.  Although I'm not a certified instructor, I've helped with some of their classes including range day.

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    1 minute ago, SwarovskiCoues said:

    my huntin fool account says “az game an fish elk/antelope results march 10-12” so maybe they have an in

    someone's brother's daughter's best friend's father's wife's college acquaintance who used to work as a clerk in a regional office who knew someone?

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    1 minute ago, wish2hunt said:

    That’s the best part. Then you know you weren’t left out.

    yes, true, when nothing was posted... There's still hope!

     

    Its the anxiety until you log in that I'm referring to...

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    6 minutes ago, GreyGhost85 said:

    I would think at this point, g&f will have to extend the cc update deadline, won’t they? Isn’t it a potential legal issue? I’m not holding my breath until they do that. 

    why would that be s legal issue?

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    7 minutes ago, zackcarp said:

    I would drive to the Mesa office and skip school. I was always paranoid to drop them into the drum. I was afraid I was gonna screw it up for everyone I was delivering for some how. It was definitely more exciting doing that and the phone call. 

    & when you finally did get through you got to listen to that "wildlife soundtrack" while waiting in line to enter just one ss #...

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    32 minutes ago, stanley said:

     

    I love this sort of stuff, so this is kind of driving me crazy.  🙄   Still grappling with 20 points equating to 30% chance of grabbing one of 200 tags, especially when each individual point is only a .00753 chance of being drawn.    Hmmmm.....

    this is why they instituted the bonus pass... because one could have 50 bonus points or more & never draw a tag... trying to help those with a lot of points get a tag.

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