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    Elk Back Pack

    I bought a badlands 2200 pack in 2005 and still use it as my main "day pack". I can cinch it down so it doesn't feel like it's taking up too much room or cram it full of "stuff" if I'm on an all-day jaunt in bad weather or going a long way. Regarding pirogue's zipper comment, I've had the pull tabs break on some of the zippers on my 2200, Aside from putting small key rings on the zipper heads to pull with, they all still work fine after 14 years of heavy use. Note that I am careful with my equipment which may lead to having fewer problems with it, but with all manufactured things, there are some lemons out there. The Badlands 2200 isn't a one-pack-does-all pack, but IMHO the best "day pack" I've ever used which can carry about 50# comfortably if need be. I've used it on rifle deer hunts packing my Zeiss 15x60s and Manfrotto tripod as well as the rifle in the rifle "pouch", and have used it extensively on archery elk hunts. I have an old Gerry internal frame backpack for carrying meat as well as a Kelty packframe with a "shelf" I added when needed. The Gerry is clearly the most comfortable for carrying a lot of weight (in the form of just meat), but the Kelty is best for tying on things like pigs, whole or half whitetails and the like, Here's my recommendations: 1) Decide how much you really have to spend 2) Decide what you need most as in a pack for weight or a day pack 3) Figure out your limitations... not everyone can strap on 100# of meat and head for the truck... 4) For any pack you get, make sure it fits your frame. Even the daypacks should have the ability to keep the weight off your shoulders (internal frame), because if not, you're not going to be liking it very much after a long day on your feet. 5) Remember, carrying meat is likely only 1/10th of the time (or less) you're spending in the field. You may be able to get by with a good external frame for carrying the load if it has a very good waist belt system and good shoulder straps. Your focus may need to be on what you really need on a daily basis as that's going to be the bulk of your time in the woods. One pack can do it all, but as Lance and others in the past have (accurately) identified, they're not cheap to get that all-in-one. Those are great for sure, but when you're in line at Bashas and you want to purchase groceries with a single $10 bill, you can't walk out with $20 worth of groceries. my two cents...
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    so. with 30-50 animals, has anyone here heard reports of bugles? There's got to be bugling bulls with that many animals, albeit they may be harder to find and you still have to be relatively close to hear them.
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    12 points...now what?

    yes it is, plus there are those who are taking advantage of this system getting multiple tags in just a few years. IMHO, the G&F should do away with point guard and stop the abuse.
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    maybe that's what it is, not the $148 plus the $48...
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    because the G&F gets the extra $13 or $15 for an app fee for anyone who sends in a letter... not to mention the privilege of donating either an extra $48 or $50/tag so you'll be "special"... edit... I was thinking about doing this in the past, but an elk tag up there, where you'll likely never see any, just isn't worth $200. If I was seriously going to consider this, I'd probably spend the extra $s and go hunt elk where I can find them in Colorado with an OTC tag. I know that's more than 2x the cost, but at least you'd hear and see elk, probably every day if you knew what you were doing.
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    Elk Draw Progress

    The odds of getting hit at this point are probably akin to the odds of drawing a September rifle bull tag! Some will get those tags, but even when someone says to you, "May the odds be ever in your favor...", it's total BS...they aren't! haha
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    CC Hit

    Totally agree. There has been a lot of "questionable" things some of us have personally seen in the electronic draw processes the G&F has used over the years. It appears on the surface that those of who "applied for a tag", and then get a hit on a CC believe the system is working great! Those of us who have experienced "abnormalities" in the past and have yet to have indications of a tag are naturally more skeptical. The "draw progress" meter on the G&F site says they're at 60%... and while I don't believe that is a true indication of actual "completeness" of the entire progress, it does indicate they're still working on it for what it's worth.
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    Guess the score

    I'm guessing 340-350ish. Looks like the right side will limit the left. This is a really nice bull, a shooter first light, first day. Not bigger than two bulls I've had shots at going back to the early 80s, but I missed so those are just a stories (one in 1980, one in 2006). maybe not that big...
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    CC Hit (First Elk Hunt) GEAR TIPS

    Congrats! My suggestion, along with the great info herein, is get at least 2 very good/loyal friends who own and have used good pack frames to help you get your elk out! Offer to and feed them well so they feel committed to you, and they'll more than make up for it. It helps if they can actually help "guide" you, but that's not necessarily a requirement. While perhaps on the funny side, it's also a serious suggestion! If you haven't been on an elk hunt and helped take care of a downed animal, you're in for a big surprise as they can be huge animals, especially when you're on your own. Don't underestimate what it takes to get one out and care for it properly.
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    When will the hits start? no thread on this yet?

    not really, certainly not for those still checking their accounts and/or hope that the hits keep on coming.
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    When you’re upset you don’t draw

    While what you're doing is not necessarily worse, you are IMO no better than the guys who "sold" their points in the past. I'm not going to pass judgement on whether or not that makes you "evil", but you are knowingly abusing the system in a way it was not intended, and to myself that's wrong because by so-doing people who abuse the system are potentially stealing tags from other "honest" applicants, loophole or not. Here's hoping it doesn't work out for those who knowingly abuse the system! I'd personally rather see someone with no bonus points get a tag than someone who is knowingly abusing the system to increase their odds against others who aren't. This comes down to morals. If there was a loophole that allowed "buddy hunting", would you do it because you could legally "get away with it"? If you found a wallet on the ground with a lot of money and someone's ID would you return it? What if they were robbed at gunpoint and the "thief" by accident dropped the wallet on the ground and you found it? What if it was your wallet? Would you want someone to return it to you? There's no law that says you have to... It comes down to right & wrong... we all know what that is. & BTW, we all love to hunt, so don't justify your reason to abuse the system just because you love to hunt where it is increasingly hard to draw, and you can get away with it. BTW, there is no law that says you can't legally take a game camera left on a tree in the forest either, but I believe most of us know the "unspoken" law that it's wrong to do so. Would you take game cameras too? Is increasing your odds "unfairly, but 'legally'" and therefore potentially taking another hunter's tag any different? If by chance you do get drawn, I sincerely hope you take your daughter out and let her hunt with you. The benefits of even a few days in the field with her will likely more than outweigh any benefit you get by abusing the system we have, regardless of whether or not others do it. just my thoughts...
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    When you’re upset you don’t draw

    The system we have now is what it is... some say better than before, others won't agree that it is. Hopefully they continue to reduce the opportunity for some to take advantage of the system "flaws" allowing those who will find ways to abuse the "intent". I don't know what that is, but would also willingly help the G&F figure out how to make it better. For now at least it's still a lottery that I feel for the most part works in spite of those who take advantage of it. My wife didn't want to hunt this year and is sitting on a fair number of points so she didn't put in for a tag just so I could go out and say, "Look through here and pull the trigger." Unfortunately I'm sure there are many who do just that. When she wants to hunt again she will apply, but not before. She likes going out, just not being a shooter (at least not this year). She has taken elk before BTW.
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    When you’re upset you don’t draw

    every year since 2008 edit... he did draw another juniors tag in 2012 btw, his last year for a junior's hunt.
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    CC Hit

    Well, I do have two of my sons in w/CCs, but my app was paper so I won't know for probably at least a week. I have found in the past few years hearing everyone else who doesn't draw helps ease the pain somewhat when I find out I haven't draw a tag, especially if one of my kids pulls a tag with a CC app. I recommend trying that strategy, it's better than anti-depressants!
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    When you’re upset you don’t draw

    That's "mostly" true IMO, but not always. When my 13 yr old son took a cow at 30 yds in a 6A juniors hunt, with a nice bull bugling 20 yards away from us, he specifically asked me to put him in for a bull tag for the next year. When applying the following year, he reminded me that he wanted a bull tag, so I reluctantly went ahead and put him in for a Sept. rifle bull first choice, juniors cow second choice knowing his odds were 1/100 of drawing the rifle bull tag. He not only drew the rifle bull tag, but took a nice 6x with it! ... his one and only bull tag to date btw.
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    When you’re upset you don’t draw

    it is reasonable, and for the few that "abuse" the system by putting in grandmas and grandpas or their wives who will never set foot afield, I'm sure there have been tags wasted every year when multiple tags are drawn by those who don't hunt. They used to require the tag holder to accompany the youth hunter, and that stopped some of the abuse perhaps, but for the kids who do get to hunt, well we're all probably better off for it in spite of those who abuse it. That said, when signing over tags started we didn't have the pointguard system so some of the "wasted tags" are probably reduced some nowadays. Too bad we can't see how many tags are signed over to junior hunters every year. It may a lot fewer than we think. As Saguaro said though, kids don't need a big game tag to hunt. As a kid growing up I certainly looked forward to a dove hunt more-so than a deer hunt. As a "junior", elk wasn't an option. For "us" however, there is not much that compares to an elk tag and why we're here online talking about it in February!
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    Elk Draw Delayed

    Are you kidding? Do you realize how many people will have several days more of "hope" if it's delayed because of the "unseen" bad news (cards not being hit when others are)? When it starts, this site gets very active with those who come on mainly to share their joy and elation, as well as those who come on to brag, which none of us want to read about, along with the "good luck to those who draw", or "don't worry it's not over yet" comments. When cards starting getting hit and yours is not, it's hard not to have a meltdown of sorts. I certainly used to get depressed when my card wasn’t hit before going back to paper apps, although there's always some in our hunting party that apply with cards that we will be happy for. The longer it goes, the harder it gets to have hope too, whereas before it starts we all have the same "hope" and can smile about it starting the next day! How much is it to hunt elk in Colorado with an OTC tag nowadays?
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    CC Hit

    I had an interesting finding a short while ago. I applied for elk w/paper in early January, however put in for one of my sons in late January including purchasing a new license as well. When I went online to change the card today I was re-directed to another site that handles the "payment" details. That's where it got "interesting"... The site I was directed to listed his home address as the card's BILLING ADDRESS, not the billing address I entered in late January and tied to the card I used. Since I don't trust the G&F to get it right, and even though I was able to get his license charged & printed etc., I'm not convinced that this discrepancy wouldn't cause the CC company to rejected the charge as the billing address wouldn't match my card's billing address. Since he's likely to get drawn for what he wanted to be put in for, he may have become a casualty of "credit card mistakes" although I did nothing wrong when submitting his application (putting in my "billing address" and his "home address" where I was asked to put them in, which were clearly different). I changed it all with a new card number and billing address...
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    CC Hit

    as always, whenever you're having a "full day" at work, just log on to get big grin and a good laugh, especially over the next week or two!
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    Elk draw website down

    If your account wasn't charged, your app may not have gone in. That said, I think you should wait until March and find out if it worked!
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    When you’re upset you don’t draw

    525 archery elk tags in 5BN... too many cow tags.
  22. It's a shooter IMO first and foremost... unless you have another that you've scouted and want to hold out for. 105 looks right, but as noted herein it's hard to tell with just pics. I will say that most hunters overestimate scores on animals. Ignoring all the NT points is hard for most and often adds to inflated numbers in addition to only looking/scoring the smaller of each...
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    22 Points

    What unit(s) do you know better? Are you an accomplished archer? Remember you can find quality bulls in every unit, but more in some. 23S can be a rough hunt, but sounds like that's not an issue for you. I haven't hunted 23S, but know some who do and they find those large bulls every year in those deep nasty canyons. Either way, I can't believe you waited 20 years (or more) for a bull tag! That's a long, long time, too long IMO. My son drew a September rifle bull tag when he was 15, a year after he took an elk with a juniors tag in 6A, so you just never know who will get those September rifle tags! I will say that a late September rifle tag was a lot of fun in 5BN back in 2008. With that many points I'd probably put in for unit 9 archery, and consider where else I'd like to go aside from 9 and forgo a rifle tag... unless archery isn't really your thing. Unit 1 & 27 used to be my favorite units prior to the Wallow Fire. I haven't hunted there since... family does, but like said before, it's just not the same, perhaps never will be. Either way, good luck, you've waited a long time!
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    First Elk!

    Good job! You'll remember that for a long time...
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    Late hunt unit 8