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^ That makes sense. I have never had that option before, so don't even think about it while bow hunting.

Again, anything can happen. I met a kid who drew the tag I wanted. He drew with 2 BP, when I had 20+.

How cold are you talking? Mine performed perfectly at -14°F last year. And I have had close ranges to 10 yards. Closer than that and you don't need to range anyway! Just run up and stick the arrow in it.

I can't tell how long it is visually. I know 42", but what gun/barrel length do you have that does not fit?

Presidential bump

Any updates on the buck?

Good to know about Cabelas carrying the MeoPro line. I've never noticed them in the store.

Cabelas does not carry that line of Meoptas. Only the Meostar rebranded as their own Euro HD line. But the Meostars are amazing. I have them in 10x42 and 15x56. Plus Meopta and Cabelas both have amazing warranties should you ever need them

All of them are from far away. I will be attempting to locate my #1 & #2 goats again over the next few weeks, as they are in different units. See if I can get in closer and get some good photos, then I will send them over.

Or you can use another device such as Kestrel or Leica 1600B LRF to get temperature and barometric pressure and manually input them.

I guess you really don't want to sell the round pen, do you?

Another great game animal for the kid? Awesome job to both hunter and father/teacher. Good job Dad.

More like a smirk, "Dumass went to Ron's Taxidermy? WTF was he thinking?"

Close enough to entice some answers and photos?

I'll post up my buck of shame again. Poor terrified retarded deer....I swear, he did not look like this alive.

I have to find him again, but with what I saw last January (2104) through May, and again in October, I would say he will be close to making B&C minimum. I did a quick score of him on the sheet off some photos, but I think I am within 5-8 points on him either way. So high 70s to mid 80s? I also saw one this weekend, but he was a long way off. He was tall, probably at least twice as high as his ears, but it was hard to see mass and prong on him, as he had us pegged at 1200+, and would not look away for over 45 minutes.

I also looked at the B&C scoring sheet to see where and how they take measurements. Very enlightening.

Just looked up the 4x7 method, and it makes perfect sense. Still researching, but this gave me a good clue on where to start. Thanks for the heads up.

I start my Bergers jammed .005, so I know pressure will go down once I get my load development down. Then play with seating until my 1/2" groups become 1/4" groups and call it good. I have never seen really finicky results with Berger VLDs either, but they do get better if you play with them a bit.

I have killed a couple deer with my .25-06 Ackley. My first was with a Barnes 100 TTSX @ 488 yards quartering on sharply. At the shot, I thought I had missed, as the deer just stood there. No flinch, kick, hunch, run, nothing. I chambered another round and was just starting to squeeze the trigger (about 15-20 seconds had passed since first shot) when he stood straight up on his hind legs and fell over backwards without a kick. The bullet had entered right at the front right shoulder, and exited at the left rear hip. No blood other than from mouth/nose. Good thing he did not go anywhere. I did have some blood shock on the front quarter. The next was with the 115 Berger HVLD. I shot my buck in 2014 at a distance of approximately 150 yards. Strong quartering on. Shot entered right at right side neck/shoulder junction, exited behind left shoulder. Deer went 10' in 2 seconds and piled up without any further movement. Massive blood trail. Not a lot of blood shock. I and others have also shot deer and javelina with a .250 Ackley. Close to ballistics between .257 Roberts and .25-06 Rem. Deer were both broadside and shot between 40 and 150 yards with Barnes 100 XBT and 100 TSX. Deer both ran about 40 yards each and piled up. Not a big blood trail, but enough to follow. Javelina was shot with a 100 SMK. Dropped like a sack of hammers. Shot was from elevated position, and entered top of shoulder, exited in 2 pieces, one at lower shoulder, one at stomach area. Pig was a mess inside. I also shot a coyote at 1327 yards with the 100 SMK. It went down. Not much else to say. I have found the Barnes good for penetration, and dead is dead, so hard to complain. Accuracy was less than other bullets. About 3/4-1MOA out of a sub-half MOA gun when shooting other rounds. Bergers are the most accurate, along with SMKs. They penetrate fine from what I observed, and every rifle I have now shoot one of these two bullets. I think putting the bullet where you want it is priority #1. And Berger and SMKs just go where I point them, every time. Even at long range.

.650 BC for a .308" 170gr. bullet is phenomenal! You don't hit that BC with a Berger until you pass the 210gr. VLD @ .631. The 215gr. Hybrid is just over that @ .696. A 210gr. SMK is only .645 G1 BC, and the 240gr. SMK is only @ .711. Post a photo of the bullet. What is the overall length of the bullet? It has to be at least 1.5-1.6" long, right?

Awesome looking dog. Good luck in finding him. Bump for the morning crowd to keep an eye out.

I have been waiting a long time, and I actually built an "antelope gun" about 11 years ago, thinking I had to be getting close. A .25-06 Ackley. Boy, I had NO IDEA it would take this long to draw a tag. I have used that .25-06 Ackley to take a few nice mulies, so I have no issues with the gun performing. I have made first round hits out past 1350 yards with it. But I am also building a new LR rig as we speak, so it will be out in the field with me as well, if I ever draw a tag. I will continue scouting all spring/summer, and if I do draw a tag, I will double my efforts, and try to get a hit list together. I have an antelope I have watched for over a year, and right now, he is #1 on my list. I found a #2 this past weekend, and I will be trying to get some closer shots of him over the next few months. If some of the guys like Flatlander and SirRoyal (and anyone else who knows goats) don't mind, I would like to send you some photos and let you be the judge.