knothead

Bowtech Guradian bow in excellent condition. Right Hand, 45-60lb, 29" draw, Bowtech drop-away rest, 5 pin adjustable fiber optic sight, Fuse stabilizer, Kisser button, peep site, string is less than one year old, Wrist sling, bow Quiver, Hard bow case, 6 new never shot Maxima Red SD 350 arrows, 3 new Wasp Havalon broad heads, 6 arrow had arrow case, and extra 28" draw module. Excellent deal and all you really need is a release and you will be all set up to hunt. $425 obo No trades, no low ballers John 623-680-4458 Call after 3:00 during the week. North Peoria 83rd ave and Happy Valley area. my email: arizona_elk@yahoo.com

still for sale

No I am not the original owner but it has been used very little. I bought it off an older gentlemen who wanted it for the same reason I did. We both wanted a low poundage bow. Us old guys with bad shoulders have given up on pulling all those pounds. Bow is in excellent condition. shoots great.

I put this back up to the top just in case you didn't see this great deal.

Sorry for shaky pictures. I always get nervous when someone pulls out a camera.

Same old excuse. Some people don't see the value in education and how it is an investment rather than a bill to pay. I certainly hope your pay is not at the bottom compared to people in same profession in all 50 states. If it is, how do you feel about that? The teachers union in AZ has no power at all. Back east in more traditional union states maybe, but not AZ. I only know a hand full of teachers who are members and it is mostly because they want the million dollar legal defense fund insurance in case someone tries to sue them. We are a right to work state so you might want to find another reason why you don't want to pay up. More money in teachers pockets will not make kids any smarter I agree but it will attract better quality teachers. If you don't understand that then there is no need to discuss anymore.

I agree, ACT is a better measurement when comparing student performance both in state and with out of state students. Everyone takes the same exam. Test is very well regulated and has many checks & balances in place. Next to impossible fabricate scores or cheat. Public schools have to take ALL students and can't pick and choose like private schools and charter schools. The Basis schools is a prime example of plucking all the best & brightest from public schools. Just try to get your child with an IEP or 504 into those schools. It ain't happen'n folks.

I disagree. Arizona is last in funding per pupil, yet we are ranked 34 nationally for ACT test scores. Seems like some good value there. Arizona is full of a lot of old people and others who don't want to pay because their kids are grown and gone now or they are just cheap bastards. Same people complain about how bad education is but don't want to pay up. We are last in spending folks, how much lower do you want to go? I suppose if we pay even less we will get better results? Great logic. I could understand complaining if we were at the top for spending but test results are at the bottom. But we are last in spending and closer to the middle in test scores. https://blog.prepscholar.com/average-sat-and-act-scores-by-stated-adjusted-for-participation-rate "Arizona ranked last in spending per pupil for instruction at $4,308 compared to $7,406 nationally.Jun 14, 2019

I'm not good enough of a bowhunter to pick one animal and only hunt it. I usually choose a location and method that will give me the best chance to be successful. If I'm gun hunting then I will hunt a specific animal.

I have an antelope hunt this year so I have cameras out right now. Two of the Three cameras consistently get antelope pics between 10:30 pm and 3:00 am. This kind of surprised me too because I have always heard to put antelope to bed and they will be within a couple hundred yards when the sun comes back up next morning. All the pictures are bucks and no does.

Since your family has been here so long, I imagine you are related to the Arnold's pickle family? I used to rope with some of them back in 70's.

Oh my gosh! All you guys that live in places I would trade my left nut to live at and you want to move?! Payson is in my top two or three places I would like to move to. What Yotebuster said about taking all the public land for granted we have out west is no small thing. I never really knew until I moved to Texas how much free land we have to roam in here in AZ. Seriously, you don't know what you got until it's gone. Now that grand kids are starting to be born, I don't think there is anyway I am going to get my wife to leave the valley for a small town some place in AZ. Probably die right here in Peoria.

I am always skeptical of anyone with less than 50 posts. I may read but will never respond. The OP only has 4 posts on CW.

The grass is rarely any greener on the other side. You like the western lifestyle and you live in Wickenburg! What could be any better than that? I was born and raised here but I have lived in NM and TX and the entire time I missed AZ. That being said, AZ used to be a great place live and raise a family but now everybody is from someplace else. When they come here and make their living here their loyalties remain where they came from. Have you ever noticed these people start every sentence with "Back home......"? If back home was so great why did you leave? I agree AZ is becoming more and more like SoCal by the day. California is like a cancer as far as I am concerned. Where ever these people go they try to change it to be like California. Stay in AZ, just don't live in the valley. Don't forget to buy your lifetime AZ hunting license before you leave. My two cents. Sorry for venting but I feel a little better now. Good luck on whatever you decide.

cozy camper canvass. The lady works out of her house and is very professional and prices are great. 75th ave and Peoria area. 602.486.3322

If you could sit down with the decision makers at AZGFD what recommendations would you make to improve things for the wildlife, hunters, hunting and the department without breaking the bank or impacting their generated funds? This is where I would start: 1. Make the application process less redundant. Why do we have to list our personal information every time we apply for a different species? Other states have figured out how to do this why can't we? 2. When applying for hunts, give the option of listing a 2nd credit or debit card in case the first card is rejected. 3. If the person who turns in or donates tag using point guard is the highest point holder on the application then in order to keep bonus points if they bought point guard 1.) everyone on application must turn in their tag or 2.) the person turning in tag does not get to regain all their points. If the person turning in tag is not the highest point holder on the application then they can keep their points and has no effect on everybody else on application. This will help with reducing the bonus point farming by allowing point farmers to use points one time instead of two. This should also help reduce or slow down point creep. 4. The archery deer hunts that you must get drawn for should be placed with the elk/antelope draw. This will allow the successful applicants have time to schedule time off work, scout, search for a guide etc. 5. Game camera season on public land (not private property). I know some people are really passionate about this topic but cameras would only be allowed from Feb 1st to August 15th every year. This still allows people time to use them but also give the animals a break. 6. Right now virtually every season ends on a Sunday. If a season ends on a 3 day holiday weekend that is a Monday, allow the season to end on Monday & not Sunday. What else?

Does anyone have the be the decoy antelope hat and shirt they want to sell? Large or extra-large shirt would be what I prefer and I wear 7 1/8" hat but I imagine it is adjustable. Thanks John 623-680-4458

I'm not going to use it during my hunt but before the hunt when I am scouting. I have been watching some YouTube videos and it looks like a lot of fun. I might even try filming some of it. I'm also going to hold onto it for the next time I hunt Wyoming with bow and arrow.

Can you be more specific or are all of them bad ideas in your opinion? What if any, are the good ideas?

I agree and I am guilty of this myself. I have never stood before the board and talked myself but I have written to them many times and submitted formal documents. When I started this thread my intention was just to see what other people are thinking and what ideas they had. I learn a lot from others and many things I never even considered until I heard someone bring it up. It was also meant to be a barometer for support or lack of support for the ideas.

1. Kind of like putting toothpaste back in the tube. It is out now and they ain't going back in. Looking back, I believe this is a mistake G&F made. It is hardly a primitive weapon anymore. This is why game and fish needs to be proactive with regard to crossbows or crossguns. They should never be allowed during an archery hunt. Muzzy or rifle season yes but not during archery season. Arrow needs to be held back by human power 100% of the time and not allowed to be in a locked position. Too many people are already abusing this rule already. 2. Ding Ding Ding We have a winner. I could not agree more. 3. some tweaking but not a complete overhaul could help reduce point creep. 4. Always can use more law enforcement. 5. Definitely room for improvement here. Serial or multiple animal poachers need much harsher consequences such and lifetime bans. In the very least fines should be multiplied by a factor of 10. 6. Education is always a good thing.

I agree. A lot of people fail to take into consideration numbers of people we have today compared to decades ago. In 1965 AZ population was 1.6 million and today just shy of 7.3 million. We are supposed to grow by another million by 2030. With the advent of social media and lots of online resources NR's are definitely venturing out of their home states.

Not trying to be argumentative but why a separate season for primitive muzzy hunt? You can hunt any style you want on our current muzzy hunts and our rifle hunts. As it is right now the critters get almost no time to relax and live like normal animals from end of August to end of January. There is practically a hunt of some sort going on every weekend in the fall.

Unsure what you mean by this. Could you clarify with specifics?

If you think this is me being disgruntled and I have a case of sour grapes then I did not do a well enough job explaining the meaning of this thread. To the contrary, this is probably my most successful year ever in the draws. Keep things the way they are and I will still do quite well but I still think there is always room for improvement.