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I have an understanding with snakes. I leave them alone and they leave me alone. You can add reptiles to my do not like list along with pools & HOA nazi's.

Like already mentioned. I dislike them but they have a purpose. If they didn't, you would have bright pink and yellow houses, people parking in the yard, unkept houses/yards and you can only imagine all the other things. There is a noticeable difference in neighborhoods with them and the ones without. Overzealous neighborhood watch nazi's can get power hungry though. HOA's are necessary evils. Kinda like an attorney.

Redman, You forgot to mention the additional $ you spent on electricity for running that pool motor and filtering system all year long. Just say'n To the original poster: Get what you want and do what you want. We are all adults here and just because some people don't like something doesn't mean the rest have to. I have had a pool in every house I have lived in over last 33 years. Two homes came with a pool, 1 home we hired a company to build for us and 1 we built it ourselves, subbed it out and saved about 40%. Not exagerating when I when I say my wife and I spent no more than 10 hours total of our time and saved 15K-20K. Pools are easy to sub out. Just because I think pools suck I know others like them. I'm okay with that and I hope you are too. I now pay someone $95 a month to clean weekly and provide chemicals and I never complain about paying it. Good luck with your build.

The discussion of our pool is sure to get an argument started every time at my house. I hate effing pools. They are a huge money pit, rarely get used and a PITA to maintain. My wife likes to sit in the shallow area with her sisters and friends and drink so what's a guy going to do. I enjoy hunting and she enjoys sitting in the pool and drinking. Marriage is a compromise.

That's a good question. I thought you had to turn your tag in before the hunt started in order to keep your points. I know some guys have turned tags in after the season has started for one reason or another but I just figured they forfeited their points.

Our last pool we built we subbed it out ourselves. We made some hand drawn plans for pool (large play pool suited for water volleyball and a couple baja areas) and the shotcreet guys drew up the official plans. We built our pool in 2007 and pool companies wanted Mid 30's to build. We built it for just under 20K. Was really pretty easy as far as scheduling because there is not much to a pool. All the pool companies use the same guys and they all know each other.

Just talked to a friend that was in unit 1 last week M-F. He did not see or hear a single bird. He sometimes sleeps late and moves pretty slow so I am not sure how reliable the source is.

Any gobbles these last few days or are the turkeys pretty much done? Did the Flagstaff area get any rain yesterday?

If I told the first guy I would hold it for him until next week, then I will keep my word and sell to the first guy. If you're the type of person where your name and word mean nothing, then you will do whatever you want anyway. Does not matter if it is a complete stranger or your best friend. Your word is your word IMO.

A friend got a PO box in black canyon city to get around the emissions crap.

Everybody I want to buy something from lives in far east valley and I'm in the NW part of valley. Quite the dilemma. AC & a Heater in a Ranger? That's pretty cool.

My most favorite Ford body style.

Kaibab is a special place. Great place to get a kid hooked on hunting IMO.

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Now I wish they would start easing the crowding at current lakes and make some more. Build them along and use the CAP water. When was the last time AZ made a new lake? Yet our population keeps growing exponentially. Seriously, it makes me feel good when I see our tax $ go to more ways we can recreate outdoors. You younger fellas should be the loudest voices or you will not have anything. I don't have answers just ideas.

I fall into the old fart age group. Early 80's for me. It was a great time to be young.

I attended Peoria High and we used to take our shotguns to school and go dove hunting with our baseball coach who also taught government. Normal stuff back then and nobody thought twice about it.

Will probably only get worse as the AZ population grows. Future models are showing a growth of 1 million people just in the valley by 2030. For many, what we have now will be their "good ol' days". Have fun wherever you go.

How have the birds been doing during 2nd hunt? Any gobbles?

A friend had one back in the late 80's and he would get about 2 feet from the back of an 18 wheeler going up I-17 and just take his foot off the gas and draft. Scared the crap out of me. Beat the heck out me just driving on dirt roads. Funny how times change. When he had his everyone used to laugh at him and make fun of it. Now they are in high demand.

You can buy an OTC archery tag and start hunting May 8th.

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I like to hunt areas with lots of good ridges/canyons and oak trees. During the middle of day I find them on benches or semi open areas. A tom without hens will find an area he likes and just strut around for much of the day trying to attract the ladies. If you find an area with wing drag marks next to his tracks on the ground, stop and call because he is probably nearby. You can hunt turkeys all day long so don't give up. As a matter of fact, many veteran turkey hunters prefer the time between 9:00 & 2:00 pm. The birds might not talk as much in the middle of the day so don't be too aggressive with your calling. Good Luck and report back after your hunt.

Dang......... I wish some of you guys lived in the west valley. Been in AZ for 56 years and grew up in south Scottsdale. I have been to Queen Creek 3 times. Last time was about 1986. I would be interested in one of the pads.

Dave, I give credit to much of my good luck because I was able to survive living next to Shonie for all those years. That and the fact that I hang around people better than myself. Good luck on your Kaibab turkey hunt. You and the Gatman are like two peas in pod. He is like your mini-me.