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I went up on a youth elk hunt this past weekend and had a spectacle unfold in front of me and was conflicted on calling it in to Game and Fish. Just for the sake of conversation here’s the story. A friends son had the JR Elk tag. We go up to an area that we scouted a few weeks ago. At first light bulls are bugleing and anticipation grows. Finally we spot a single cow about 75 yds below the ridge were on. His son gets in position to shoot and the cow feeds just out of our sight but in full view of a road in the flats. So all we need is for the cow to feed out about a 100 yds. As we’re waiting here comes a side by side headed to their spot. They have no idea we’re there. Perfect timing for them ,unfortunate for us. The cow spooks runs out in front of them. Time to just watch the show. The hunter gets out of the side by starts shooting. Miss, Miss now the elk crosses the road and Miss and on the next shot hits her in the back leg. As she start limping across the prairie I decide to video the rest of the incident because I knew what was going to happen. The cow gets out of their sight so the hunter jumps back in the side by side and they drive quickly down the road about a quarter mile until they start angling away from where the cow went at which time the driver turns off the road and drives cross country about a hundred yards until they can see the cow. The hunter shoots again. Not saying he was still in the side by side when he shot. He could have got out on the passenger side. They drove cross country again down the opposite side of the fence to get to the cow for recovery which I believe is legal. However after field dressing the side by side leaves. And the parent returns in a truck driving cross country from a different direction. I did not call it in. Had it not been a JR hunt my attitude would have been different. I showed the video to a Game Warden I know and he said I should have called it in. JR would have only got a warning. And more then likely the parent would have received 2 tickets. 1 for hunting from a vehicle and 1 for diving off road. The Warden said it was the dream call. Hunters still on site and video of incident.

The hunter never shot from the road but did shoot across the road. This part not on video. The road is a forest Service 2 track. AZ law leaves a lot of discretion as how it could be interpreted when it comes to regular maintained road. With all the pot holes and cracks I’m not sure the roads in my neighborhood are regular maintained. Still not what should be taught.

Showed the video a few days later. At the time I thought it was borderline and because it was a jr hunt didn’t want to over react. And agree not what should be taught to new hunters.

Have an Eberlestock X1 no rips or stains all buckles and zippers work perfect. $125. Crooked Horn pack no rips or stains. Main compartment zipper has to be zipped all the way from opposite side. $35. 602 679-7887

Both packs sold.

Standard rifle scabbard.

Crooked Horn SPF

Anyone have any feedback on how vocal the bulls are? I’m starting my scouting today for upcoming muzzy hunt. 3 weeks off. Of course can’t be gone entire time the dog would miss me too much. Went to 23 on Saturday and only heard a couple bugles early. Seems like this weather has really messed with the Archery hunts.

One last thank you to John and his client that afforded us the courtesy of first opportunity.

Spent the last 2 weeks scouting about 9 days off and on. The heat would force me home every couple days. The rut seemed like it was over. Very few bulls bugleing. I keeped running into another hunter all over the unit. We were looking at a lot of the same country. We shared a lot of info and he told me about a specific bull he was after. Wednesday night we were back in the same Canyon and after dark he stopped to talk. He told me he had found his bull. I let him know with that being said we would not be hunting that canyon and would head for a different area. As a unsolicited thank you he gave me info on another bull. My son found the bull the next morning and again in the evening. A friend spent the night at the glassing point. About 3 am myself and the crew show up and we occupy 3 vantage points. At first light were in shooting position and here comes the bull. As other hunters arrive and park next to us and walk on out the cows spook and away goes the bull. Public land has its frustrations but Has way more pros than cons. Heading back to the truck I’m informed that a friend has spotted another bull. Off we go and the chase is on. Our friend calling turns this bull around at about a half mile. Not sure what he said but at about a quarter mile the bull starts running in. We get set up quickly and the bull showed up at 35 yards. My son shoots the smoke clears the bull walks about 25 yds and falls over. I have to thank everyone that helped glass, pack and occupy real estate. Adam, Jim, Jim Bob, Bobby, Colt.The successful hunts myself and my boys have had over the years is a large part because of you. And a special thanks to Mike. I hope to hear soon you need help packing.

Ours had that I think twice before it just got too far down. Hopefully yours learned a lesson. Gives them a heck of a upset stomach.

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Just got home from scouting. Found 1 bull that was screaming for 2 hours nonstop. He sounded like a rusty car door opening. He was checking his cows but none were impressed by him. Was fun to watch and listen he would respond to anything. Couple other really small bulls way off by themselves. Seemed like bulls are waiting and cows not ready. Dog happy to see me home. Everybody else asleep.

Yes saw that. About half of that thread has gone sideways. Started a new one.

If he doesn’t take it I will. Have scooter will travel

BigBrowns aka Adam does great work. He has done a few skulls for me. And their lab approved.

Does anyone here make knives out of old files?

I have a couple old files out of my grandfathers tools and hunting knives I thought would be a great way to put them too use. Not sure how old they are or if they are good for knives.

Statistics say and prove pretty accurate that serial poachers will not stop. The arrogance involved wont let them. He’ll get caught again long before the 10 years is up.