jgraffaz

So if you’re out camping over Labor Dayweekend and your kid got a new drone for Christmas and flys it is that illegal since an antelope hunt is going on? Let’s even say he has an elk hunt coming up in a few weeks.

Seems like you have no response to my comment

This makes my point. cannot be used to help take or locate wildlife during an open season. This restriction applies 48 hours before the start of a big game season and lasts until the season ends. I don’t believe he was trying to locate deer. Burden of proof is on the prosecutor. Unless they have evidence that he was trying to locate big game he’s not guilty and has every right to fly wherever the heck he wants. Now I’m just playing devils advocate and trying to tell you how I believe this all really works. I don’t personally know the guy or care about his case

It’s not illegal to fly around during open big game hunts.

This is the problem that he is referring too. These fish cops can just throw stuff against the wall and wait to see what sticks. A lot of the time, it seems like there is no accountability or skin in the game for them making these accusations but the people they are accusing of committing these crimes will have their lives significantly affected by such accusations even if the individual is innocent. These false accusations can financially ruin someone, not to mention the time suck and public smear campaign (as we can see in this thread) it can have on someone who might not have even broken the law. The WM can throw these charges around and worst case scenario for the WM is they get dropped. Best case scenario for the accused person is they “win” the case at the expense hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars, hundreds of hours of their time, etc. After all, the WM and legal system is funded by the people they are accusing, tough to take on the government or IRS or any government bureaucracy because no matter what they have unlimited resources compared to a private individual. Now I don’t know enough facts to make a judgment about this particular case against Koury. But I have seen some of these fish cops with little man syndrome and jealousy connive their way into issuing some BS charges. Not saying all are bad but some are. I see the need and support enforcing laws but it should be done in a way that isn’t punitive or based on an individuals feelings like it seems to be some of the time. here is a real life example explaining a what I’m talking about. Worth the 5 minute YouTube video.

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Our “forefathers” were not begging for hunting spots on the internet. Beef is in fact hundreds of dollars cheaper a pound (you wouldn’t know since you’ve never killed a bear). If you like to hunt I get it, but a bear isn’t the animal to go and shoot for meat. You hunt bears for the sport of it and the trophy of it and the meat is a bi-product (which I enjoy). If you are a meat hunter you should hunt cow elk. The last thing we need is more guys bear hunting ready to ground pound every single cub and 70 pound sow on the mountain. Bear hunters should try and be selective for mature boars. And I’m pretty sure our “forefathers” killed bears because they were killing their cows and not eating them. It’s way easier to kill a deer or an elk and it tastes better too. No need to get offended that people are teasing you because you can’t figure out hunting on your own like most good hunters have. Did you vote for Biden?

If you only want the meat, buy some beef from the grocery store, it will be cheaper and taste better.

Unlimited OTC tags for essentially the last 30 years coupled with some back to back harsh winters and a healthy predator population, especially gold eagles that eat the lambs. AK is a huge state so it varies a little depending on where you are at. They are still trying to figure it out exactly but what’s for sure is it’s not looking good anywhere.

Amen

There are a select few units that are OTC in MT, most are a draw. ID has some great units and awesome rams. Canada is poverty and you still need the money….

Most of the Dalls are dead in Alaska right now. They are saying 20 year minimum before the state re-bounds to what it was just 4 years ago unfortunately

I just thought we were having a hunting discussion. Didn’t mean to hurt your feelings

The difference is there is a clear clarification under B for flying and not on cameras. Again, this is all hypothetical on my end as I don’t have anything to fly. You better not spot animals from the vehicle or drive the truck closer after you glass something up as that could be considered illegal also if you are going to “err the side of caution”

Also subsection B clarifies subsection A. If you read A without B I can see where the confusion comes from.

Thats the point the law is written different for trail cameras vs flying. It’s not the same. I agree with your trail camera argument but flying is not the same. I’m not a lawyer or a pilot (nor drone owner) so it doesn’t matter to me but that's my understanding of it. Another example that is similar is It’s illegal to spotlight with a firearm in the vehicle but completely legal to spotlight all night without a firearm and come back at first light without a light and with a gun to kill something. Thats my understanding of it.

I don’t think that right. As long as it’s more than 48 hours before the season open, flying is okay. So if he flys in July and finds a deer and kills said deer in August that’s more than 48 hours before any big game season so he would be 100% legal.

To my surprise I drew my second choice which is a Late Archery bull tag in unit 22S. I plan on scouting HARD and learn the unit very well with a scouting trip planned in 2 weeks....After reading some different things some people say that elk "winter" in the south and spend the the summer in the north out of the unit boundary? Any information or tips on the unit and or late archery hunt would help, thanks!

Yes it’s high fenced. Located in 12AE.

-Top gun is a 1965 model 336 Marlin 30-30. Great gun, smooth as butter. Has a little normal wear that makes it look and feel like an awesome authentic American classic. $700 -Second rifle is an aero precision ultra light weight upper receiver with a chrome lined Aero BCG. It has an sig Romeo red dot on it. Lower receiver is a KE arms polymer lower. Those things are made here in Phoenix and are supposed to be the only legit polymer lowers on the market. Total gun with a full mag weighs 5.1 pounds. $600 -Third rifle is a Sun Devil manufacturing AR15 I had Dave Beaty (Owner of Sun Devil manufacturing located in Mesa) build me for predator calling, it’s a tack driver and is is pretty light weight. Topped with a Leupold VX3I. $900 -Fourth rifle is a new marlin by Ruger model 1896 45-70 gov. Topped with a Steiner 1-5 power. I have only sighted in this gun, other than that it has been a safe queen. $2,100 -Fifth and bottom rifle is a sigm400 topped with a Holson HS510C & flip up magnifier (as shown in the individual picture as the group picture it is bare without the optics that actually come with it.) $900 -Last is an Sig p365x Cary gun. Comes with a kidex holster for concealed carry and this HS507K red dot with co-witnessing tritium night sights. I think I have like 3-4 mags for it. It also has an aftermarket faxon threaded barrel on it. It comes with the original black factory barrel also. $600 Face to face only. Located in Queen Creek. Best way to get in touch is through text. 480-255-7959

365x is sold

Smith and Wesson is sold. Had a few guys reach out about the sig 9mm, both lever guns and the Sundevil AR but all is still available as of now.

The PD329 is sold pending final payment.

I can add this to the list too. 44mag smith and Wesson air light. Shot less than a box of shells through it. $1000

Sorry it took me so long. Here is the update. I sold the shotgun the AK and one of the pistols already.