Boarman03

You assume I was not looking to buy, but you error. I have purchased several guns of that value and quality even very recently. I was not trying to kill his sale or hurt it. ATF website states that it is illegal for a resident of one state to transfer a firearm to a person of a different state with out using a FFL, except for a few special situations like legal inheritance, immediate family gift, etc. to person's of legal age and ability to possess firearms and inaccordance with the state's laws. (Not exact wording). I have had no problem from the people that I have purchased the many items from, but I have had fierce criticism from people like you who appear to be only looking and not buying. BigOrange humorously seemed to be keeping track a little, and many others can attest to my statement, like Levers, Bill@Roofer, WildWoody, Eddylasvegas, MyRightsasanAmerican and many, many more. I started a thread in the correct place and you complain. What is it you really want? I'll take your constructive criticism, but otherwise, get off my .....

I am asking for clarification. Please add clarification if you have some.

Doesn't an FFL just log the number? Feds don't check unless there is an issue? Or do all serial numbers get Checked with the Feds at time of transfer? With my CCW they just log it. When does the serial number of a firearm get checked?

Not worried about getting stopped. Back in 1994 ish I had a pistol stolen from my truck. I reported it. Glad I had bought it from a legit source. A couple of years later the pistol was used to murder a politician in Mexico. Gun was traced to each holder by the Feds. When they got to me they encountered the report. What if the gun had been traced from the perpetrator backwards to me as an illegal sale? Holy crap! Would I be put up on charges as an accomplice to the murder? You seldom know the complete past or future of a used weapon. What if the gun you purchased is reported stolen? If you have a paper trail, bill of sale, you'll lose the firearm but can show reasonable actions and intent, directing the authorities to the person you bought it from, and you might even get your money back. I'm sure there is more but these are thoughts and experiences I have had. There is an inherent risk in purchasing any used weapon, even from an FFL. Just much less through an FFL.

It's a very nice gun. I don't like most of the laws and certainly don't want more. I really thought I was helping. Obviously wrong. I've opened discussion on campfire. Very nice gun and I wish you the best. I looked at it because I was thinking about it. Sorry for the distraction. To me it is a very nice gun. I hope it is to others as well.

Thank you for the constructive criticism. I was only trying to help but obviously it was not wanted. That's why I brought it here. I don't understand some of the social norms but am trying. My life has been one of trying to help people and solving problems. I'm very open to learning what I can. I didn't see where that affected the sale as an FFL should be easy to encounter. Wouldn't not warning someone about potentially doing a transaction illegally be bad? I would want to be warned so I could do it legally rather than getting into expensive trouble. I honestly don't understand, but I'm trying. So, I came to this forum which I hope is the correct venue. And I'm listening.

My understanding is you can buy from an FFL in an adjacent state, but not skipping a state. I bought a rifle in Utah from an FFL. I could not buy one in Idaho. There are some minor exceptions. If you have a hunting license in another far away state you may purchase a hunting rifle for use in that hunt. I heritence and family gifts have some exemptions. This is what I understand.

I don't understand why people got angry. I only said an FFL transfer may be required to transfer legally. Your idea may also be legal. How was that negative?

Not meant to be negative.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Arizona law requires this gun goes through an FFL for purchase in AZ from a non-AZ Resident (out of state seller). Please double check the rules and be safe. Protect your 2nd Amendment rights.

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Needs a rifle in it.😁

We can go shoot together. I'll get my permit, we get OTC bear and go after ol' red tags?

Plain black or camo?

Guess who has a couple of rolls of that material. Call me if want, when you stop laughing.

You are a kick Bill. I'll let you shoot it.😁

Great guy. Now I've got one of these too.😁

My sincere thanks to all for your help and suggestions.

Thank you. Great people. Now to learn how to use it without losing any fingers. Funeral for piggy bank at 3:00 pm. Due to Covid 19, immediate family only.

So two back surgeries and a bulging disc in the lower back limiting physical movement qualifies? For the crossbow permit, I lived through the 70's and enough second hand smoke from marijuana (marijane) to last a lifetime.

What if your last name is Owens'?

And now it killed a piggy bank too!.

PM sent. Poor Piggy Bank! Another casualty of the classified hunts.

Checking my piggy bank.

Very nice, but the balance of my allowance is very negative right now. Someone else's turn.