AZtroutman

Lightyear, I personally know guys that have helped game and fish in criminal cases and got the tag of their choosing. So don't tell me they don't have the ability to throw a few tags to some YouTube famous douche bags to bring people to AZ to promote hunting. I know several guys that are no name every day guys that have had great luck like yourself when it comes to drawing tags. One guy I know has now drawn 4 early archery bull tags in a row in quality units. Congrats to you and them. That's the beauty of a lot of tags going in the random pass. But if you are too blind to see that they can give a tag to whoever they please I don't have any glasses that can help you.

Not sure he said that?

The Game and fish department that cries they have no money is spending the money we give them to pay flat brimmers to advertise hunting in az to attempt to make even more money. That about sums it up.

If they're paying them you also know they are making sure they draw good tags. Too many popular guys online drawing once in a lifetime tags several times over a short period. Anyone that thinks that everyone has a level playing field is blind.

That's him hoping. No reason they shouldn't be as this is the latest results have ever been released but never know with these clowns running this circus.

Supposedly you can ask to look through the piles after the draw to confirm but good luck with that.

Even then, the super raffle isnt conducted by the department. A 501c3 has been set up and they run it. Department just donates the tags. Hard to screw it up but I have a feeling if they let the azgfd draw department run it they could figure out a way.

No no, this is definitely a department issue. No taking the blame off them. The department won't hire competent IT people to run the draw and we get shi*shows like this every draw now. While other states are leaving AZ in the dust with how efficient their systems are.

Just right now or like just today?

Who doesn't know how to check their cards for hits?

I see. Didn't know they tried to charge three times in the past.

That's how it used to be by attempting to call 3x but now if you're declined they move on right away. Has made draw results come out quicker without spending days calling people. They were closed Monday so that doesn't work.

Odds are better for it to be your son in October but never know.

Yeah its hilarious everyone giving their advice on which outfitter to go with from personal experiences. Would be even better to just let the guy pick some random outfitter without doing some research.

Lol OK 2 tags. Let me change my sentence and add 2 tags to it and it has the same meaning. The meaning being unless you have 18+ points don't plan on drawing the 3c late hunt in the bonus pass. Every year there are 2 or more guys with 16+ points that try for the October 3c hunt so just imagine what the late hunt will get.

With only 10 tags and 1 bonus pass tag all it takes is one guy with 20 points dumb enough to try for the 3c late hunt and the rest of the tags are in the random pool.

He called the week after the draw and the refund never came. $85 isn't worth the time and hassle for him to stay on the phone for an hour trying you get these morons to give him his money back. But the fact that it happened to hundreds of people at no fault of their own and then they have to take the responsibility and time out of their day to make it right? And then do it again the next draw to hundreds more? Only the government can pull that off without fraud charges.

My brother still hasn't been refunded 5 months later. Azgfd made a good extra couple thousand off that move and couldn't manage to find a way to automatically refund people. Then did it again this draw. Normal people go to prison for stuff like that.

Under control? Are we talking about a group other than azgfd?

You would think they would care but azgfd is a different beast compares to other states. Nevada and Utah use private companies to run their draw and it goes off without a hitch every year. Very easy to put in and check accounts. Maybe other states have more money or something but the az draw has become a joke. Would think someone would hold them accountable but once again when you're the government you have no accountability.

Key word. . Should. But mostly can't figure out how.

Why spend money to better a service when you can f up everything and customers have no choice but to continue to use you for that service?

Just one of the many great new features of the attempt to tie everything to the portal. They also switched from a DOS system to a newer system and apparently f'ed everything up in the process.

I've seen guys posting pics of their charges for youth tags and they were $25. While you can never be 100% sure with azgfd, I would be 99.9% sure your son drew a strip tag.