Crazymonkey

Nothing better than some fresh pie and ice cream after a few days in the woods chasing deer that's for sure

I was wondering if trphyhntr was kidding or not.the wife told me about the leftovers and was into going again after being up in 6a for my 6a spring hunt.when the wife is into going the cost is not a problem. Just have no experience up there in October or seen birds when deer hunting

Good guns I've got a older antonio zoli ritmo shoots where you point so I usually don't hit shoot but nevertheless good gun

Had the same problem with freezer space I shot a bull on muzzy hunt 6a then the next year a cow on general you can always squeeze a couple freezers in and friends and family help

You on foot or run quads or sxs to get to location?some spots are harder than others to get to

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Thanks all found a deal on one

Flatline maps are great and a lot of the archery shops carry them there water proof I think.

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6a last year stuck between moo cows and elk cows in the rain at 20 yds 0822201638.mp4

The rancher from bar d or bar v had a salt lick out and it was a stand off as to who it belonged to

Just a friendly fyi the early paramount did not have the threaded barrel and the gun will have a heavy recoil even at 95 gr blackhorn.

I guess I forgot to mention the moo cow is 2 feet in front of us

Anyone have any experience with a contender in 357 harret.what are your thoughts for elk inside 100 yds .here's the gun and bullet info tc contender 10 inch barrel in 357 harret loads are 180 gr xtp with full loads of 4227 . loads crono at 1900 fps .would like to use for a cow hunt and shut down my buddy's who give me shoot for using a 300 win .

For those that don't know what a 357 harret compares to here is a picture of a 44 mag 180gr next to a harret case for camparison

That's right I did see one there a few weeks back it was like 2 grand or so it wasn't there last week when I was there but there moving stuff around and a lot of stuff shows outa stock but its on the shelf .like the nightforce rings I was searching for.I'd definitely call and ask !!!

Awsome my dad has a 357 max I haven't got to shoot it yet as he lives in .ca but he says its stout in the hand .good for you to get your kid out hunting I wish my daughter was into it as I've got many guns and only her to pass them to .I'm also the only son my dad will give any guns to and I've got 3 brothers

There going to be hard to find .I ordered mine last year and it took 8 months to get .don't get there break as its junk and comes apart I got a radial break for mine .try muzzleloaders.com or arrowhead if you still can't find before hunt shoot me a pm and we might be able to work out a loan for her hunt

Its how the bullet is constructed there is info on expansion rates on most bullets at a given volocity .on my muzzy powerbelt has a chart for example that shows what each bullet does with a different charge and some open at lighter charges and others do not I've looked for example on the xtp and couldn't find for that size

Every bullet has a expansion rate its based on volocity at a given distance .I've seen fast shooting bullets such as my 300 win 180 gr pass right thru elk inside of 100 yds last cow ran 80 to 90 yds shot thru shoulder at about90 yds broke the shoulder and took out the top of the heart still ran with not a drop of blood on the ground .yes speed and weight equil energy but most bullets have an applied expantion rate for a set distance if your to close bullet don't open and pass thru to far and bullet hits but bounces off or breaks up.

This is true just watch the boys teaching hunter safety shoot a sand bag with a 44 mag and stop the bullet but shoot a arrow right thru.besides a 22 shot at close range in the right spot will kill about anything. Not so much on energy but placement .

That's more like it .I was looking for info on bullets and construction. Not sure ill use for elk but was looking for input like yours about bullet type and construction .it may be best to use the gun for pigs and deer but if I could get a bullet of good construction and it carries enough energy inside 100 it may be an option.ill look into the barns and see what comes of it .just a gun I got and was told it was a 357 barrel not a 357 harret when I bought it .

Actually the 30-30 is the parent case to each and yes the 30 harret was made first with the smaller case capacity.the 357 harret was made later with the larger case capacity.there are several articles about it being used for elk at modest ranges with a 158gr bullet that's why I'm asking .As for energy at distance its about the same as say a muzzleloader at 100 yds with 100 gr pellets.its not all about energy at a set distance its about shot placement.my 6x6 elk didn't take 1 step before he tipped .the energy is close at around 1000 or so .if energy is the only factor I'd use my 338 win at something like high 3000 plus at 100 .but it's not its about bullet construction and shot placement .look it up there are several articles about elk and even a blue wildebeest taken with the harret.my concern is with the bullet its a pistol bullet and I'm worried it will come apart at those speeds the other option it a lever evolution bullet but don't think I can get enough volocity for correct expantion.with the 158gr volocity is increased and therefore energy comes up but at the cost of bullet weight .there are plenty of contender hunters out there that have this round and hunt with it for deer and pigs and other animals that's what I'm looking for .How the bullet reacts to being pushed that hard will it come apart? Only those who shoot it will know for sure

A little of each from someone who has the gun and knows the round .people are quick to judge on here it seems .only looking for opinions from those who have shot same round as the load books are all over the place and new books under power the round and old books over power .just looking for real world experience not speculation.