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    Effects of the virus scare?

    So reading the other thread on the market crashing I started to wonder if anyone else here has experienced any disruptions in your lives from this latest virus scare? We know the obvious TP and water shortages at the sams club and costco along with stock market holdings tanking for now, have you had any direct effects on your daily home or work lives? I work in the electronics field as an electrical repair tech, with the machines we work on the majority of parts we get are from china. We've already had a majority of vendors already express to us that once their warehouse stock is depleted they are at a stand still with them receiving parts from oversees. The supply chain seems to have ceased at the source for now. Not sure when they will be able to start back up into full production again. I've also have some training I'll be going to in Nevada coming up in a couple of weeks, so far we still have that on schedule which I'm thinking it should be fine for travel hopefully. Even though the training is in las vegas, I'm staying off strip and don't have any plans on going to any of the casinos while there so I'm thinking it should be a low risk travel venture. So what about you and where you're located, have you come across any disturbances in your day to day lives?
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    Effects of the virus scare?

    What a freakin year....
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    PSA of the day. Highways are for cars...

    To see that and to know the woman dies is unfortunate no matter the circumstance.
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    Sad news- Hoghunter

    RIP and prayers for the family
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    bars, gyms, theaters , tubing ect

    I had a classmate just pass from covid. Would be around 43 or so, a marine and all around good guy. No prior health issues just a regular person going about his life. He passed last week and his services are gonna next week.
  6. Haven't anything about this yet. What are your thoughts on the whole situation? https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/01/23/prominent-arizona-guide-loses-hunting-rights-in-47-states-for-poaching-a-desert-bighorn-in-utah/ After poaching a desert bighorn in Utah, prominent Arizona guide loses hunting rights in 47 state A jury in Kanab found that Larry Altimus, 69, faked living in Utah to secure one of the coveted big-game tags considered ‘huge in the hunting world.’ Most big-game hunters can go their entire lives and never get a chance to legally shoot one of Utah’s desert bighorn sheep, a privilege reserved for fewer than 40 lucky hunters each year. After 21 failed tries, Arizona big-game hunting guide Larry Altimus finally landed such a permit in 2014 soon after taking up residence in Kanab, the Utah town on the Arizona line in the heart of desert bighorn country. But a jury later determined that Altimus was merely pretending to be a Utah resident for the sake of taking one of the state’s most valuable wildlife trophies. In addition to a felony conviction and more than $30,000 in fines and restitution, the act of fraud will also now cost Altimus his hunting privileges, under a recent decision by a Utah Division of Wildlife Resources hearing officer. The ban will apply not just in Utah, but 46 other states as well. While Altimus may still guide hunting clients, he cannot hunt for the next 10 years, according to DWR spokesman Mark Hadley. “He not only stole the permit. He used the permit he wasn’t entitled to to kill an animal,” Hadley said. Based in the southeast Arizona town of Pearce, Altimus, 69, operates his company Hunter Application Service and guides hunters in pursuit of trophy animals in several Western states. Altimus, who did not return a phone message Monday, has hunted and guided hundreds of times in the Southwest and has appeared on industry magazine covers with his trophies. Bighorn sheep are among the most coveted big-game species to hunt. Utah’s system for issuing tags for such hunts gives an advantage to those who have tried and failed to get permits in past years. Hunters earn a bonus point each time they unsuccessfully apply for a particular big-game species. Altimus actively sought these Utah tags, and by 2013, he had amassed 21 points toward a desert bighorn sheep, more points than earned by any in-state hunter, according to court records. Even with this trove of points, the chance Altimus would draw a nonresident bighorn sheep permit were still slim. “But if he claimed residency in Utah, he knew he had a good chance of drawing a permit reserved for Utah residents,” said DWR director Mike Fowlks. Under Utah law, however, hunters are not to obtain a resident hunting permit if they move to the state for a “special or temporary purpose.” As someone who makes a living helping clients obtain hunting tags, Altimus was well aware of the rules, according to Kane County prosecutor Jeff Stott. At trial last July, Stott had to convince a jury that Altimus knowingly took steps to illegally game Utah’s system for awarding sheep tags, which can auction for as high as $70,000. In 2014, according to DWR data, 5,174 Utah hunters vied for 35 desert bighorn tags, while 7,184 nonresidents vied for three. “This is a big tag,” Stott said. “It’s huge in the hunting world.” Big enough, it appears, for Altimus to uproot his life for a few months. In August 2013, he rented a house in Kanab, moved his belongings there and obtained a Utah driver license, according to Stott. Using the Kanab address, Altimus applied the following March, not long after meeting the six-month threshold for residency, and drew a permit to take a bighorn from the famed Zion hunting unit — just one of 11 awarded that year. “We proved it was all for this permit,” Stott said. A few weeks after winning the tag, Altimus moved back to Arizona, then returned for the fall hunt, where he bagged a ram. After three days of testimony in Kanab’s 6th District Court, the jury returned a guilty verdict for wanton destruction of wildlife, a third-degree felony. Judge Wallace Lee ordered Altimus to pay DWR $30,000 in restitution, payable in monthly payments of $1,000 as part of his three months on probation. He also lost his right to possess a firearm and hunt in Utah during that period. Officials had already seized the ram trophy, whose prodigious horns curled into a full circle. But the real punishment was meted out by DWR, which filed a petition to revoke Altimus’ hunting privileges for 10 years in the states participating in the Interstate Wildlife Violator Compact, which includes all 50 states but Delaware, Massachusetts and Hawaii. A hearing officer affirmed the recommendation, although the order could be appealed to the Utah Wildlife Board.
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    Effects of the virus scare?

    Maybe, but death rates in the southern states and on the res suggest maybe the US is a bit healthier than perceived. Other possibility is the notion that what the medical medical professionals suggested all along was correct, which was just to give them time and they have a good chance of helping everyone. Shoot the first patient in pima County finally when home a couple days ago after 28 days in the hospital. A fricken month in the hospital.
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    Effects of the virus scare?

    Just ran into an old neighbor on an evening walk. Turns out this is her son in law and sounds like he's just taken a turn for the worst. Hopefully he pulls through. https://www.facebook.com/110660902299929/posts/3166289456737043/
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    Effects of the virus scare?

    They're talking about using city parks as temporary cemeteries. So basically burying the casket until there sufficient space and manpower to exhume the body for a more appropriate burial.
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    Effects of the virus scare?

    Its in a Tucson nursing facility. https://www.kold.com/2020/03/30/coronavirus-cases-confirmed-tucson-nursing-facility/
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    Effects of the virus scare?

    Trust in china in never a good option. Right now its a race to be the first to come out of this. The first to bounce out economically will have an huge advantage after we get an handle on this. With whats happening in telluride, if we can get that deployed as soon as possible we'll have a great shot at starting up sooner than expected.
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    Effects of the virus scare?

    From a family friend in phx, she's a surgical tech. Phx medical staff are gearing up for this. She's worked as a nurse for as long as I can remember and worked in elective surgeries. She just put a message that she was asked for the first time in many years to be available for the ER. This is mainly because of her familiarity with intubating patients. Hopefully its an overreaction.
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    Change of Plans

    Still have plans for spring turkey unless they close the Navajo rez. Thats about as far as out of state I usually go. Otherwise I'm hunting late cow and the reg fall draw and archery if nothing happens in Oct.
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    Effects of the virus scare?

    https://www.azdhs.gov/
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    Effects of the virus scare?

    I like the star wars quote. Yes we have lost freedoms and I don't like the fact this has affected everyone in such a negative way. I don't like the fact that I can't take my lady out like before and I'm only working 2 days out the week for the next two weeks. I'm not heralding the quarantine aspects of this and I've never told any one here to quarantine. All I asked and what I've tried to do since the very first post of this was to get in idea of how all of this was having a direct effect on people here. The other part was to keep agenda driven options out of my discussions and to try to keep it a scientificly driven aspect to the numbers and try to see all different variables for whats happening with everything in the us. From the first post I noted the affects from our parts department and this ballooned up to me not having to work most of the week. Yes this all bad and its nuts scary for some and weird like watching a movie. This hasn't happened since 1918 and guess what? All this discussion we had last night still hasn't changed the fact that this is still growing from hey heard my parts might be delayed from China to this guys postimg about someone on his block getting sick to knowing a Dr who got sick. I've done my best to try to post info directly from the sources in a direct manner that doesn't get shaded in any particular direction politically. I'm not one to watch CNN or fox just because I like Information not opinions. I like to make the call myself and I try to give you as much info as I find thats informative and direct. You can make the call with what you will with that info.
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    Effects of the virus scare?

    But most of us aren't worried about the death aspect of this for ourselves. The majority of us are gonna be just fine. My thoughts of this and my understanding of why we're practising social distancing is to keep this away from the seniors, nursing homes and those who have previous afflictions that will make this fatal to them. The thousands of cancer patients that are all ready immune deficient and those that are the weakest of the herd. I'm going through this as a numbers game and right now we are able to take care of those that are sick so mortality rates are low which is good. But its not showing any signs of stopping or slowing down. Yes I understand what you are saying that the mortality rates are low and this seems like a big inconvenience for little loss. But right now the biggest city in the US is starting to bow because of the pressure of having everyone come in sick from this virus at the same time. If we can prevent this from happening else where and slow this virus thus letting the health care workers do their jobs without becoming overworked we have a chance at keeping it low. We are no where near capacity with our hospitals and the health care system is holding up. This what we wanted to accomplish correct? So the question is do we keep this up and keep fighting the virus or do we take or losses now and throw our hands up and let the virus take what it will? Its your right to ask these questions and its still your right to practice your freedoms. A bunch of spring breakers just did that and now Florida is a hot spot. New Orleans just had fat Tuesday and now Louisiana is a hot spot. Yes it is in your rights to exercise your freedoms, I'll chill a bit and hopefully this is an overreaction because not doing enough will mean some good people will get really sick.
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    Effects of the virus scare?

    Nope not one word. Spain though is taking the full brunt of this and it kicked their arse. I do have more confidence in the US health care system to hold it together. It will stress it though.
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