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At 4.4 lbs these are stiff heavy duty boots. Kent

They have 200 grams primaloft, 10" ... here's a retailer description. Handcrafted in Germany. LOWA's classic hunting/field boots are made for on- and off-trail use with heavy 50- to 60- pound packs for extended trips in the backcountry. Handcrafted construction, the finest leathers, Vibram outsoles, and SPS (Supination, Pronation, Support) midsole technology, are just some of the reasons why LOWA is the boot of choice for rugged, off-trail adventure. Ultimate field boot. Provides excellent ankle support for climbing steep hillsides and traversing rugged terrain. GORE-TEX® waterproof lining keeps feet warm and dry. The Hunter is a taller, 10" version of the Tibet GTX, with the added benefit of insulation. FEATURES: * UPPER: 2.5mm water-repellent Nubuck leather * MIDSOLE: PU with SPS Dynamic - designed to help control over-pronation and supination, reducing fatigue and potential injury when covering long distances. * LINING: Seamless, waterproof GORE-TEX® lining with Primaloft insulation for added warmth. A LOWA patented design. * OUTSOLE: Vibram® Tsavo sole unit with specialized midsole. * SHANK: 5mm nylon, full length and width with a PU layer for total support underfoot. * FOOTBED: Balance footbed with breathable top layer and slow reacting foam provides fit customization. Transports moisture away from the foot, minimizes friction and reduces fatigue. * FLEXFIT: More natural ankle flex and heel fit plus improved stability. * CLIMATE CONTROL SYSTEM: Perforations in the boot's lining allows air to enter, pumping heat and moisture back out. * TONGUE STUD/X-LACING: Patent pending tongue stud allows for better pressure distribution. * C4 TONGUE: Anatomically contoured to cradle the foot in comfort. * High wall rubber rand. * Strap-on crampon compatible. * Weight Per Pair ( Men's 9): 4.40 lbs * 10 inches tall. * Handcrafted in Germany.

Carbon steel, means it can rust if not constantly wiped, patina, super sharp and easy to sharpen. So. very good but needs constant attention from rust. Leaving the patina on helps, I like the look myself. Don't dishwasher or let it sit in the sink... use, wash, dry and put away immediate. Best advise for stainless also. Initials in some of the handles and a chip on the back of one. Early/mid century knives Foster Bros 10" slicer Dasco skinner Chicago Cutlery filet Two unmarked old knives, one could be another Foster 100.00 plus shipping if applicable. Kent

I'll take it, my brother wants it. Kent

Well, I knew the gun would go fast, so responded and texted but it was sold. No problem with texting as that's the quickest way to get a response. 480 means east valley and a quick look at his 9 posts says queen creek. Even though I was too late, I see no issue with the seller. Kent

I'll take it if still available. Kent

Goldshmidt going down leaves Hill, Montero, Gregorious and Trumbo as the veterans, with Montero having the highest batting average of .255. The others are call ups with even lower averages except Peralta who is turning out to be a solid and the best player after Goldy. Pitching is the killer though... it's like we have an average triple A team with bad pitching playing in the bigs. Kent

I took this picture 6 years ago of an elk rub, about 30 miles as a crow flies from Mesa... elk are within 12 miles of Phoenix city limits this spring.

Soon they'll be in the golf courses in Mesa... Kent

I was born in '57, so I watched Wallace and Ladmo from infancy... loved Ladmo, hated Jerald, Wallace was the normal one. I never went to a show, My best friend in college moved to az from Buffalo ny, his family had moved to Mesa and his dad made, distributed the Ladmo waffle. If you remember them, in a jar on the counters of local businesses, sugary treats. They were either related to Ladmo somehow or their families were linked from NY. Anyway, one evening we were headed to ASU activity center to hang out, driving down Mill. My buddy says, 'I gotta make a stop first for my dad'. We go into the neighborhood just east of the campus, pull up to an average house, he gets out and walks through a screen door. I get out and am loitering around the front yard, my buddy yells through the screen door,' come on in'. Walking up I hear Ladmo's voice through the screen... my knees lock... I can't move... I'm 19 years old and my lifelong hero is just right there. My buddy comes out and gets in the car... 'why didn't you come in'... 'That was Ladmo'... ya? so... You're from New York, you wouldn't understand... I understand Spielberg's 'star struck' comment. RIP Wallace, a true icon. Kent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVsWmqrfVj4 This is correct spine for a compound/release. It osculates up and down but stays level and straight on two nodes. Watch it a few times to get the sense of what's really happening. Underspined and the back end will kick even further down, possibly hitting the shelf or breaking, the nodes will not stay level and jump up and down. Overspined and the front end will kick sideways and stay sideways to the target. Even if you can micro adjust the rest to perfect center, any torque or form difference will cause the arrows to fly off. This is important when you are kneeling or leaning around a jack pine to shoot at an animal. Having your arrow sitting on the rest close to the front node helps a little also. I bought a used switchback on AT, will get it next week. Simple walkback... I'll eyeball the center and square the nock point. I have hay bales and targets at my dad's acreage, so I'll plumb a string down with a weight on the bottom. Put a bullseye about shoulder level under the string, sight my top pin on the bull at about 15 or 20 yards. Don't worry about exact distances. Walkback shooting one arrow at different distances, with the same top pin at the same bull, your arrows will get lower in the target shooting with the same pin at the same bull. Don't worry about distances, just stop before hitting dirt. If your arrows get farther away from the string in one direction as you go back, adjust the rest and walk back again. Do this enough times you are confident the center is correct. If the arrows will not come vertical by adjusting the rest... you are overspined. Have some different weight heads and redo. Now go to distances and set pins. If you have vertical stringing try adjusting the rest or nock a little, if that doesn't help try a lighter head to see if you are underspined. Once set, don't play with poundage, or arrow weight or head weight... if you change one you will have to change at least one other to get back in spine. I can walkback tune faster that it took me to write this. Kent

Your problem is typically an overspine issue, most tuning issues are spine. Try putting the next heavier weight field tips on and see if they hit square(er). That's a cheap test. A simple walk back tune would tell you alot if you have access to targets stacked vertical or a haystack. There is only one perfect spine for each setup... which is... bow poundage(energy), Arrow brand/spine/length, and head weight. There is a 'valley' that you can work in, the closer to the center the better. More weight on front reduces spine. Or more energy/poundage. Or longer arrows... but your bow is set and arrows cut. Think of a small car pulling a big trailer, the heavy trailer (arrow) will try to pass the car (tip) downhill and jackknife. The head is to light to pull the arrow straight back behind it... hitting sideways and losing penetration. Once an arrow is cut to xx length the spine is set. Every arrow flexes and it flexes the most on release. There are two nodes on the shaft, one in towards the back and one the front. While the arrow flexes you want to find the perfect flight of those nodes moving down range. So once an arrow is cut, the basic ways to change spine is head weight and energy (poundage). If I have a 5ft bamboo pole and two rocks on the ground, one two pound rock and one three pound. If I push the lighter rock the bamboo will flex before starting the inert rock rolling, as the rock gains it's own momentum the shaft flex less to keep it rolling. To start the heavier rock it must first flex more. When you release the string of a bow the arrow pushes on an inert tip and depending on weight will flex less or more. Also the bamboo will flex differently on the same weight rock depending on how hard I push... energy/poundage. Tuning is everything about getting as close to perfect flex of an arrow/head/poundage combo and to have those nodes fly downrange as harmonically as possible... hitting square and penetrating to the max. Kent

Just a couple of thoughts... The draw or changes to it isn't what's being proposed here, any connection is that Scott and the team will be free to create their own code and system from scratch... same as the Portal. The issues here are a new user friendly website, a possible members only and tag surrender. My opinion... Website is all good Members only has to have some real return value that has nothing to do with tags or special privileges with getting tags. Tag surrender must stand by itself, there are always consequences unseen (like the 20% bonus pass for premium hunts has become dominated by NRs, becoming an overloaded preference points system for them) anyway, there are consequences that need to be thought of first instead of jumping in and and finding out later. Kent

I'm not sure what you mean but the draw isn't involved with the portal or tag surrender, draw code will be written for the process we have now, since the contract is up next year for the IT the state required G&F to use, let's hope they can code a smooth running system. I haven't heard of any tweeks, just making it efficient... but I've been mostly working now that construction has picked up and spending time with my 2 year old granddaughter... caught myself humming nursery rhymes while humping sacks of cement up two flights of stairs today. Kent

Also when guys like Gary, Ryan, Lance and some others say something's wrong I listen, though it may not turn out to be the specific problem, their intuition usually shows something needs to be addressed. Kent

This is just another vernacular issue and not being clear in the definition. 501c3 in this case means the same donation avenues that exist now... children facing life threatening diseases, disabled veterans? others? just the same as now but you get your points back. Back during 2072 the azsfw folks were also heavily entrenched as officers in some of the other critter orgs. We used the term 501c3 to describe these orgs quite often and it almost became a negative term. So I can understand the concern over the term and possible implication... it has nothing to do with critter orgs getting tags. Kent

I'll say this also, once the tag transfer is removed from the club, it removes it from the whole Portal agenda. Then we can take on both separately. Tying them together was bad PR, just the ventricular of 'early draw results' was bad PR. Folks are mad about all the issues with the draw now. In house is supposed to fix this, lets get it running smooth, get the Portal up in jan and then possibly see what the customers want. That was a big theme and if folks go to the meetings can reiterate. Kent

Absolutely, the club thing is what we hammered last night at the meeting as it relates to tag transfer... it was no, no, and he'll no. Tag surrender I guess I'm ok with and realistically if it goes to the dept and not donated, as long as it's next in line policy, that tag will go to someone that was in the BP 20% pass or the next highest point holder, so it clears another high BP holder out. There is more work to be done to clamp down the tightest restrictions and still be fair. The feeling I'm getting for having the club is to increase the use of the new site.It's going to be kinda like your data phone that you can put apps on your front page. You will put the things you use the most on your personal page. It will increase online license sales if you get a reminder on your page when it's time to renew, paper apps cost much more money to process. That's just a small sample. fishing reports, stockings... All this is free. I'm not sure a club will generate any more traffic and you are absolutely right in they need to show us a working model before going there. These are some of the things discussed and I will say acknowledged by the G&F. I think the club thing will be pushed down the line with no real deadline and the new Portal, all free, started and then expanded. I'd rather see the new in house draw site ironed out before any club thing. Kent

Do you have facts and polls to show how few these people are? Kent

I imagine who's pushing this are those complaining to the dept that those being deployed or suddenly hurt or whatever should be able to return a tag and keep their points. Even in these threads the concern is more about having the surrender as a club benefit. Honestly, I was prepared to go into the meeting against the tag surrender completely, but after having guys call me upset about the club and tag involvement, reading on these websites. There just isn't a buzz about surrender by itself like we saw with 2072 and the premium tags... well until the last two pages of this thread. Use the process, drum up support and it may dissolve. Lance I'll put you and your friends down as disinters in my vibe poll... well except Casey... Kent

I have no problem with that personally, but the vibe I'm getting is most would like a surrender program, so I'm working within that agenda. Kent "Most would like a surrender program". Is there a poll, survey, or facts to back that up? survey and facts to backup up my vibe? dude, you need to read the black part of my post, disregard the blank parts, and don't project anything into it... funny stuff. Kent

I have no problem with that personally, but the vibe I'm getting is most would like a surrender program, so I'm working within that agenda. Kent

Yes, it was addressed at length last night and though Scott isn't in the regulation dept, he took notes to forward. Kent

You don't receive a BP for drawing in the first place, you stay at your BP level. Kent

Allen and Hector, good seeing you guys again and meeting the others. New website good... anything with tag and priority in the same phrase bad... Tag surrender with regulation ok... anything with early results and priority in thr same phrase bad... G&F as biologists good... G&F as marketing and PR wizards bad... lol But that's what these meetings are for and Scott obviously took notes from the first meeting and was better prepared and ready to change the tone of some issues. And he was scribling notes of other issues not presented yet and will work to be better prepared for the next meeting. I think that's what we want, a process like this the is amendable as it progresses. I agree with Allen that the hot button issues will be taken off the table and new ideas are being heard and added. Lance, one of the other guys presented the numbers from I want to say 10 western states on tag surrender, hopefully he puts them up here. It was quite a few states and few tags, he put a lot of effort getting the info and I can't do it justice off my faulty memory. I personally see AZ as ripe for abuse if not regulated strictly and expressed that last night and in emails to the team running the process. Kent