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My Great grandfather on my mother's side was an educator in Prescott and would run dogs with his friends on Mingus Mt. He was killed in a horse wreck while hunting when my Grandfather was about 10. Kent

My Dad had two hunting buddies and one had the Az big ten from when I was a kid so probably finished in the sixties sometime, ironically the toughest one for him to get was an elk at that time. His bear story was the best, he and my Dad hiked our Mule into the Mazatzals, he shot the bear and it fell over an embankment, He was so excited he rushed to the edge and trip over it landing on the bear 10 ft below. My Dad looks over and Ray is clawing his way back up and he tells him it's all right, the bear is dead... He placed water all over the mountain before his sheep hunt so he didn't have to leave the mountain once up there and could move around... He killed his lion spotting during a deer hunt I think. It went into a boulder pile and died. He had to go back to town and since he was an engineer, my Dad was also, he was able to buy dynamite and they blasted the cat out. He is gone now but a great guy and huge influence on me. I doubt he ever applied for an award, just not that kind. I long ago decided I would settle for 8, sheep and buff are just something I haven't ever applied for, I will leave them for those that really want them. I've taken my big 8. I still think of Ray and how he made me a special dinner in camp after I took my first deer, a forky and how he bragged on my accomplishment because I walked out of camp on my own and did it myself. Kent

Mike, fantastic... Kent

McCain simply needs to go, all national politicians also. We can only effect this state but our example and urgings may cause others to do the same. We have to change our government and that can only happen by addressing 535 members of congress and senate. seems like a small enough number to change and replacements should not be that hard to find in 300 million people. We have 10 of those in this state, vote them all out and be vocal. Kent

Link: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-35821-I...rom-John-McCain Why the sudden call for tough border enforcement from John McCain? April 1, 4:55 PDave Gibson U.S. Senator and open borders lobbyist John McCain AP Since last weekend’s murder of Arizona rancher Rob Krentz by an illegal alien, Sen. John McCAin (R-AZ) has been calling for troops to be sent to the U.S./Mexican border “immediately.” Of course, for McCain, it is an election year, and he is facing a tough primary challenge from conservative J.D. Hayworth. A brief examination of McCain’s actions over the last several years is enough to show us where his true loyalty lies…and it is not with the American people. The 2007 Amnesty Bill written by McCain would have merely required illegal aliens to pay a $5,000 fee in order to stay here and gain legal residency. The fact that American citizenship is now valued at roughly the same cost as a 2003 Volkswagen is insulting, the fact that our own Congress and President arrived at that estimation speaks to how little respect our elected representatives have for this nation. Under McCain's bill, even members of Mexican drug gangs would have received amnesty by simply signing a statement in which they renounced their gang affiliation, the so-called 'background checks' that illegal aliens would have received were only of the 24-hour variety, which reveal very little (if anything), and they would then be given a six-month worker card. Even violent members of MS-13 would be given legal status based on nothing but their promise to become upstanding citizens. In 2008, Republican Presidential candidate John McCain told the crowd at annual National La Raza Conference: “I don´t want to fail again to achieve comprehensive immigration reform.” Of course, “comprehensive immigration reform” is nothing more than code for amnesty for illegal aliens. After the massive illegal alien protests in 2006, in which millions of law -breakers demanded their ‘rights’ and trampled upon American flags, McCain made the following statement: “If such demonstrations continue, I think we will have a bill for the President to sign soon. The more debate, the more demonstrations, the more likely we will prevail.” John McCain has spent the last quarter-century in Washington D.C., and for many of those years, he has spent his time working on behalf of illegal aliens and the unscrupulous companies which hire them. He has also sat by and watched as thousands of Americans were murdered, raped, and robbed by those same illegal aliens. Now, six months out from election day, he expects us to believe that he stands for the strong defense of our borders. To John McCain…you’re too late, we don’t buy it!

From a friend/ neighbor of Mr. Krentz, posted elsewhere. April 1, 2010 I am angry. I had been operating at a slow simmer for some time now. Then, last Saturday, while he was working on his ranch, Rob Krentz was murdered in cold blood by an “illegal alien” criminal. He was summarily shot twice in the chest along with his dog. Now I am more than angry. Rob was a fourth generation rancher in Cochise County, Arizona, just across the line from me in New Mexico. Friends and family, some with hunting hounds and horses, and every kind of law enforcement official we have, went into all-out search mode for his killer, but he had a nearly twenty-hour head start on them by the time they found the body. They followed his tracks to the new, fabulously wonderful, multi-billion dollar and completely ineffective fence at the border, and then into Mexico far enough to be sure he had made it across and was continuing south. They returned to their homes and jobs, sick that they could not catch this killer before he made it back across the border. I have known Mr. Krentz and his family for many years and consider them friends. We are not close, but have become friends largely because of having common beliefs and issues that arise from living in these huge, arid landscapes. Most of us here have what the general population would consider “conservative” leanings when it comes to politics. We prefer, and have to, take care of ourselves for the most part. We do not have the option of calling for help in emergencies much of the time, because we do not have phones, radio or cell service when we are out in the landscape or on the isolated roads. When you live here, you have to be prepared to handle your own emergencies. It is expected that may include a snakebite, a car wreck on an isolated stretch of highway, a neighbor with car trouble, that sort of thing. But for the last four years or so, that has included illegals that carry fully automatic weapons. That is a little tougher to prepare for, especially when official response time is one to four hours and the official that does respond is usually alone and only allowed to carry a measly pistol to respond with. Two years ago a Bureau of Land Management fire crew was pulled off the job when the fire they fought flushed 17 illegals out of a canyon and they were all carrying automatic weapons. Most of us have guns, as did Rob Krentz. His was found in its scabbard on his Polaris Ranger, where they found his body. The illegal that killed him, according to a garbled radio message his brother received, appeared to be hurt and needed help. That bit of acting may explain why Rob did not have his gun out and ready to use. Just the day before Rob had helped Border Patrol officials with a drug bust on his ranch. More than three hundred pounds of marijuana was confiscated. Was the killer one of the thwarted smugglers seeking revenge? We do not know and probably never will. The official response from politicians was completely predictable. First, they wanted photo ops as they consoled the bereaved family. Then, they wanted to “meet with the locals about issues on the border” – AGAIN. None of them wanted to talk about the appeals they had received for years now from not only Rob and his family, but all of his neighbors as well. We have been telling them that this kind of thing was going to happen. One of Rob’s closest friends arranged a meeting last night in Apache, AZ, at the one-room schoolhouse, and managed to get the responding officials to attend. As the agency heads and congresswoman braved an appearance in front of nearly 350 of Rob’s neighbors, with all of the network news agencies there to capture their concern, they assured us that they would get right on this problem, and even take our concerns and comments back with them to Washington. As if they were doing us a favor. I guess they think they are, since we are not a large enough voting block to matter to their career goals. And, after all, several people were murdered nationwide last Saturday I suppose. And each and every one of them mattered to their people and communities, so why should our very own murder here on the border matter any more than any other? There is a very good reason it should matter to all of us more than most. It is living, current proof that our nation’s most virulent enemies are now funded by drug money from the cartels that provide for our own citizen’s insatiable appetite for illegal drugs. We, the Americans, are literally funding BOTH SIDES of the wars we find ourselves in. The Taliban and Al Qaeda are funded by drug money (heroin and by-products), and our border wars are funded by cocaine, methamphetamine and marijuana purchases. We are even funding the mass murders of thousands of Mexican citizens too! That money helps to destabilize lots of governments south of us. Our own citizens have made multi-billionaires out of the lowest kind of criminal element on the planet. Our nation is the largest consumer of illegal drugs in the world. Our prisons and courts are choked to a dysfunctional near-standstill by the drug-related crimes that swamp our legal system. But drug users insist it is a “victimless” crime. And our drug users are, in a climate of political correctness, considered VICTIMS of their drug use. Not criminals, not traitors to our country, but incredibly – victims! We are pouring billions of dollars into their rehabilitation and care and upkeep, all the while pouring billions more and many lives of good officers, soldiers and civilians for many, many years now, into the abysmally unsuccessful “War on Drugs”. One man who spoke last night had the courage to say to the bereaved at the community meeting that if the government could not stop the flow of marijuana across our southern border, perhaps they could at least “consider decriminalizing it” as a substance. He stopped far short of what I think needs to be said. I think our president should muster the courage and support to announce that the cartels will be dismantled by the legalization of drugs in this country, and that their days are numbered – and HE NEEDS TO MEAN IT. And then, that he hopes the drug users in this country will summarily rid us of their selfish and parasitic selves by having the decency to either die soon of an overdose or stop using altogether. I am angry because I know this will not happen. I know that this country has become more-than-half populated by people that feel entitled to have all their needs met and their wants provided for by their government. We have become the new nation of “Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you”. [For those of you too young to know, the misquote above is from a landmark statement uttered by John F. Kennedy in his inaugural speech in 1961. It was originally, “Ask not what your country can do for you,’ ask what you can do for your country”.] I used to think it was a problem of liberal versus conservative, Democrat versus Republican. But now I believe it is we versus us. When we, as individuals or groups, have a choice, we need to do the right thing, not the easy thing. We are not entitled to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”- we are only entitled to continually earn it. Many of the conservatives at the meeting consoled themselves by saying that the murderer will be killed when his bosses to the south learn what he did because they do not like the kind of publicity and problems it causes for them. What problems? If he thought he would be killed in Mexico, why go there? The most likely way for him to live a long and happy life after the murder would have been to put his hands in the air and turn himself in to one of the many Border Patrol agents, who would be forced to merely arrest him, Mirandize him and keep him safe, and warm and fed, and provide him with a lawyer – or maybe the ACLU would do that for him. Then he would be kept at our expense for years while his multi-million dollar trial was planned. He would likely win at trial because of a technicality. Then, happily, Mr. Murderer would be eligible for citizenship on the basis of needing political asylum since his old boss in Colombia (or wherever) will be out to kill him. Then, he can, also at our expense, move his family up here to America, where he can get free HEALTH CARE and a regular income check. That is why I am angry. Almost ten years ago a US Attorney asked locals at yet another meeting what to do about the border issues. I commented, “If we did not buy the illegal drugs and labor they are selling, they would not come”. To which he said, and I quote, “We ALL know that. There is nothing we can do about that.” So, our officials have decided not to enforce the existing laws. The lawmakers have decided to pass laws that are unconstitutional and completely unenforceable. I am far beyond angry now, because we are at war down here on the border, and the United States is on BOTH sides of the war. And I am angry at myself for just now writing this letter. I should have done it long ago, before my friend was murdered

Krentz family releases statement on ranchers death Posted - 4/1/2010 at 1:58PM images Krentz family releases statement on ranchers death The Krentz family released the following statement regarding the recent shooting death of Robert Krentz on his Southern Arizona ranch. On March 27th, our Husband, Father, Grandfather, Brother and Uncle was murdered in cold blood by a suspected illegal alien on the Ranch. This senseless act took the life of a man, a humanitarian, who bore no ill will towards anyone. Rob loved his family instilling in them the importance of honesty, fair dealing and skill managing all aspects of a large 100 year old ranching operation producing food to make our country strong and healthy. He was known for his concern and kindness helping neighbors, friends and even trespassers on his ranch with compassionate assistance in their time of need. We hold no malice towards the Mexican people for this senseless act but do hold the political forces in this country and Mexico accountable for what has happened. Their disregard of our repeated pleas and warnings of impending violence towards our community fell on deaf ears shrouded in political correctness. As a result, we have paid the ultimate price for their negligence in credibly securing our Borderlands. In honor of everything Rob stood for, we ask everyone to work peacefully towards bringing credible law and order to our border and provide Border Patrol and county law enforcement with sufficient financial resources and manpower to stop this invasion of our country. We urge the President of the United States to step forward and immediately order deployment of the active U.S. military to the Arizona, New Mexico Border. Thank you for all for honoring Rob. We want the truth known. Link: http://www.kvoa.com/news/hold-for-now-kren...ases-statement/ _________________________

I'm getting strung out with posting on different sites, this is a little cut and paste of some I've written. I've been voicing my opinions elsewhere, I usually don't get into these issues that can boil over on local sites, of course you've seen me do it a little here. The murder of Mr. Krentz has just blown the lid off, tipped the scales, boiled over, and can be directly related to McCain and his policies.... May he RIP and his family find some justice, Amen. I'm beyond pissed. A month ago I would have voted for McCain, I feel deep emotions over his service and sacrifice, I also have been frustrated with his Jeckle and Hyde personality and policy as a Senator. He isn't a Goldwater/Reagan republican as he claims, far from it. The plus is he will beat the Dem challenger and vote straight repub, if nothing else than to stick it to Obama. I felt we couldn't take the chance of JD losing to The Dem with being so close in the Senate, keeping them under 60 votes. JD upsets me because he was the incumbent of my district for 10 yrs. He lost to Mitchell because he was just another politician with ethical and scandal problems that then couldn't beat the Dem challenger in 2006, in a district that is 60% republican.... 'My' representative is a Dem putting it to me because of JD wasn't working for me, he was looking out for himself... imagine that, he's a (crook) politician. Now JD is making his mark as a radio conservative... too much the feel of a TV evangelist out to fleece you of your savings. I have a slim hope he has been listening to himself and maybe... maybe will do the right thing... a sliver of hope. These are my choices for US Senate, I'm ecstatic... I was going to hold my nose again with McCain, not now. Another bandage will not stop the slow bleeding that is killing our country, we need to just hack the cancer out. We are on life support already and have to totally cleanse our system and not just in AZ. We must flush the system in all states, we can't say our guy is ok and everyone else must change. None of them are ok and all responsible for where we are at as a nation. McCain needs to go, Kyle needs to go when it's his turn. We have 5 Dems and 3 repubs as our representatives to congress, they need to go. No exceptions or they will paper cut us to a slow bleeding death. McCain is culpable in Mr Krentz's demise, I'm going with JD. McCain, screw him... JD, screw him less... VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!

Vote them all out! McCain is culpable, he needs to go, I wouldn't have said that last week. We can only effect Az and hope our voice is heard in other states. Kent

I'm assuming 23 or maybe 3C on the rim. Starting at the unit border... and 260... drive as fast as you can and I'll guarantee you'll get one... or seven. Make sure you are using enough caliber (vehicle mass) and running it at optimum velocity.... as always, shot placement is key and a broadside shot will get the job done quickly... a head shot will result in less meat loss. Kent

The boulders are Granite Dells in Prescott and the shack was on Mingus Mt, turn of the century. Kent

Went down to work on my friend's place and did a little fishing. Didn't land anything big but the yellowtail were crazy on top spoons and picked up a decent halibut jigging. Broke off two big groupers and had two other bites. I made some good eats with the Halibut and then the yellowtail with ribeyes. If we had just concentrated on yellows it would have been fast action the whole time, only had a few hours each of two days so spent the majority of time going after groupers. Here's some pictures and a video of a yellow, usually don't video yellows but it was what were biting... Kent

Tony, you say when and we will get a CWT trip planned, I will go most anytime. Ya, he was in Prescott for 12 yrs teaching at the University. Wrote 'Designing and Forming custom cartridges' Edited Rifle and also Handloader I think. Thought maybe you knew him in the business. West Dolores river, I have an elk honeyhole around there also. Kent

Hey Tony, I'm kinda in and out getting ready to take off tomorrow to San Carlos lake. This reminds me of the 'reminiscent' thread we had on another site. I found a couple pictures of my lot I had in Forest lakes above Bayfield, if you remember. 1979 Late 60s on the West Dolores river. Also wondering if you know Ken Howell, being a writer. He's here after having some serious heath issues, if you know him I can give you an update and contact info. Kent

Amanda, I'll get with you in a couple weeks. Going crappie fishing, do you take fillets as payment. Kent

No more sand rd necessary. The new highway goes by just above the dump. so at the most 2 miles of dirt rd to Ted's house by the beach, closer to the cliff beach in your picture. It continues on and I think has reached Puerto Libertad, headed for Kino. I'm planning on going again in May, probably towards the end, great fishing then. We could do a convoy. Kent

Yep, That's the rd, it reached Lobos a few moths ago, last May we had to go back to RP and meet some folks, so the rd was 15 miles from Lobos and they were digging through the hills with equipment. To get to the highway there is a sand rd around the estuary to the north and we had the let the air out of the tires to get through. It's such a piece of cake now, the new highway is wide and no traffic, speed is up to you, we went Eighty. Sonoita still has some good roadside eats, we usually get a fresh coconut and some sliced melon. Kent

They just opened the new super highway that will eventually reach Kino. We go through Sonoita and then Caborca, gotta eat at the Wagonwheel, God that's good food. Then go West and instead of turning on the old route, (that dirt road was the reason few went down there, I don't miss it) go on the rd to RP about 45 miles then turn south at the Y and go another 35 to Ted's house. I can get a little more specific by looking at a map if anyone is interested. It's eighty miles from Caborca that way and all paved or 60 miles the dirt rd way and 40 miles of 'WTH'. You can also go by Rocky point from Sonoita and hit the highway that way, I think Caborca is a better rd and they are the same distance. You could do a RP trip and run down the 100 miles to Lobos for a couple days. Kent

Late May and early June are some of the best times to go, the fish are spawning and just incredible fishing. It's warm but fine. The beach is great to camp on right in front of Ted's casa. A Travel Trailer with AC would be perfect, tent camping is fine, just a little sandy. July and Aug are great fishing just extremely humid, again if you have a TT with AC to sleep at night it would be doable. Here's the beach outside Ted's front door, there's actually a couple cabanas on the beach, just down a few hundred yds you can use also, just to the right of the edge of this picture out his door.

Hey Tony, good to see ya. Some of my Mentors also used to go down about that time. Phil Tidwell, Val Earl, Delbert Bebe, also a big group from NM with those guys. They sunk at least one boat during those trips, it hasn't changed much. Kent

My Great Grandmother is the one holding my Grandfather in this picture and here she is with all us kids, I'm the little tyke with no shoes, seems I was always barefoot, must'a liked it. I remember her well. 1906.... 1961

Ive been going through some old family pictures again, here's a few that aren't hunting. I have a box of pictures but these are interesting as they are of the Prescott/Cottonwood area. My Great holding my Grand... standing on the street in Prescott. 1906. How bought this spot, recognize it? Cottonwood and Jerome?... hard to tell United Verde and Pacific RR This is somewhat hunting as it is a camp they hunted out of. My Grand as a lad, he's the one on the horse. Kent

I just looked and there was a heading for pricing on the front page. He just made the website a couple weeks ago. I wasn't going to try to promote Ted here unless there is enough interest for me to buy him a sponsorship from Amanda. He's a good friend and I've fished off his boat for free enough that I should do it for him, he doesn't frequent sites like this. He'll be back up in a couple weeks and I'll contact Amanda then. 250.00 per day for the boat, he can take scuba divers to the islands also. 300.00 per person a day for staying at his house, food, fishing 1800.00 for a week, two days travel, five fishing For the more than two days you can just ride down with him from the valley, or pay fuel for shorter trips. The fishing is for real, remember when Rocky point, Cabo, San Carlos were rumors of great fishing years ago before the Gringo invasions..... development..... here's your chance. I've kept the secret for a few years, with the opening of the new super highway going to Kino, it won't be a secret any longer. Ted is a pool builder here in the valley, he's an engineer that worked in the Superior mine with some friends of mine I went to highschool with, after the copper crash in the 80s he went into professional bass fishing, Bill Dance, Shaw, Martian, he was one of those guys. It was a racket back then and his last tournament he won, the 50.000 check bounced, the truck he won wasn't paid for so no go, the boat he won was the same as the truck, dealer sponsor took it back. He had enough. He is top quality and one of the funnest guys to fish with bar none. If you go, hope you like buckwheat pancakes, he makes them from scratch. Kent Kent

I put this up last June, Keith and I fishing with Ted. there was a bunch of interest but Ted wasn't guiding, just now decided too. If there is still interest I will see if Amanda will take a fishing sponsor. Speak up. I've known Ted for a long time, He used to fish the national bass circuits in the 90's, been on TV with Roland Martian and such, invented the gitzit. Great guy, fun, we've fished together from San Diego, to Cabo, to Apache lake, to San Carlos, ect. He knows his stuff. Kent