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I guess it's cool to throw a bone to the desperate currs in the back yard and I knew there was a string attached to yank it back. Wanted you to say it. Truth in advertising, uhh credit score? I knew this and know you left it out. Did you leave it out for the four bus drivers you don't feel sorry for, I'm sure they were felons working for the school system. I guess everyone just knows background checks highly relate to credit scores. Maybe a minimum score needed would be appropiate in the ad. I guess you don't feel sorry for almost every construction worker that got caught in this housing mess and had their truck, toyhauler, quads, even house reposessed and now have no credit and can't get goverment or goverment contract sponsored jobs because of it. Personally all my stuff is paid for, no bills and I can survive on little. Not the case for 90% of those that sweated and worked hard to build the house most live in and used that skill to supply a life and living for their families. All gone now, with their credit. Quite a bit more restrictive than your original post. And of course you weren't really targeting experience goverment workers without coming straight out and saying it. Maybe I'm the only one thinking there shouldn't be any misrepresentation in this stressful job climate, especially on a site like this. The only way I can keep my mouth shut is stay away so that's it. Done Kent

If you hire 6 or any, non ex or current. TO, DO, BP, LE, Military. Just someone with a CDL and clean record, I assume that's your resume? I'll apologize to you and say you are the only company to put out general hiring guidelines and not have an underlying agenda of pulling the competitions employees away with no intention of hiring any general public. I hope I'm wrong, I've been through these proccesses and your's will be the first to hire unknown general public, purely off resumes, it would be refreshing. Kent

Ok, I was writing some other stuff but I will let it be. I'm tired of being right on these issues and hope I'm wrong.

Ya, I kinda know this but have been through these Goverment job proccesses the last year on jobs I more than qualify for. Alot of BSing, "you qualify, if you are offered the job will you commit to it"?, UH, yes, "You know this doesn't mean you have the job, we just are making sure you're not wasting our time" UH, no. never a return call. getting hopes up and nothing to show. Come work for your country, join the millions that serve in a civilian capacity, we need your skills, blah blah. A father is sitting home watching the kids while his wife works because he is out of work or only working 10 days a month reads this, you know what a job like this could mean? Saying the job is easy doesn't mean squat, the job could be the hardest one on earth and it wouldn't matter. If anyone here is actually hired from CWT that doesn't have DO experience and a CDL already I will eat my words. There are DO forums I'm sure that this can be posted on, so if someone here qualifies they already know about the opportunity, no need to tease those people that are now wondering if they run and get their CDLs, they have a chance to support their families. Or if they have a CDL there will be any openings not taken by those with DO experience prefered as stated. How many apps by experienced willing to transfer from other locations for how many jobs and how many venues has this been avertised on, I guess we'll know in a few weeks. If nothing else maybe I shamed them into hiring a few of my brothers and sisters here that they wouldn't have. Please update in a few months. Kent Forgot the backgound check, I like humor and it was funny. I've worked in concrete for over 30years and most would pass except the same ones we worked with and now would be hauling back to the border. We could talk about old times on the ride.

sounds like a good job. Too bad the ones needing the jobs the most, construction workers, aren't walking around with CDLs and have detention officer experience. They've only been working side by side with these same type individuals for years and know how to interact with them. Don't know how many guys around here can even qualify having to have some P prefrence whatever. Don't dangle a impossible carrot infront of starving people, it's cruel. Kent

It might be cheaper to just rebarrel the gun. couldn't resist, I would definately look into reloading or buddy up with someone. Kent

bowhuntaz1, sorry to hear. I snapped my tibia in sept helping a guy on his elk hunt, had to give up my own cow elk and coues hunts. Just now getting around without to much pain. Take it easy and do what the doctor tells you, next year will come soon enough. Kent

Merry Christmas Tony. Merry Christmas Amanda. Merry Christmas, everyone! Kent

Well, no matter what else, you have a world class wife! Nice buy, find a bunch of animals. Kent

If the animal can't get up or lets you get on it, a sharp knife to the throat. Done it 3 times on other's animals, once on a car struck. Be decisive and get it done. Otherwise shoot and deny till the cows come home if asked. Be decisive and get it done. Kent

I can just see MM last night, laughing and spitting on his computer screen, cradling a bottle of Black Velvet. Muley Man, GET UP! it's morning........Oh and clean the vomit off your face........Hate drunk fools. Kent

I don't think the issue is how many guys you have with you hunting, could be 20, as long as they are with you. It's having 20 people away from you pounding the woods looking for an animal for you to come and shoot. Causes a ton of issues including what effect it has on other hunters and their setups getting busted by scouters with no tag during the hunt. Paid scouters or Fam/friends, it's the same problem. Sucks when you have a setup on a bull during archery and and all of a sudden it gets busted by someone in camo walking in looking for the bugles. Opps sorry man, didn't know you were hunting, BS. Sometimes they are sneeky and you only know the bull busted and it wasn't you. There's no law in Az or Utah on using electronic communication, only the ethics provision for B&C P&Y if you are so inclined. It's pretty lax, just don't guide the shooter to the animal. In the case of the spider bull the shooter went home in another state, the bounty hunters continued to comb the mountains and found the target. Called the shooter, I guess thats electronic communication, he shows up the next morning and they drive him out and he shoots the bull. So he wasn't guided to the bull with any devices. If I am sitting on an animal and communicate my location to you, you can come over to me and shoot the animal from my position, perfectly ethical, to the clubs. Kent

Nice! any bull in the late hunt is good. Congrats. Kent

The use of electronic devices; telephone for texting or calling, radios, ect. only disqualify if the hunter is guided to the game itself. I can sit in point A, the animal at point B, you're somewhere at point C. I can't tell you how to get to point B but can tell you to haul butt to point A where I am and then shoot or chase the animal. Could be 50 yds or 30 miles or a different state. Kent

Trophy hunting itself has nothing to do with it, i.e. I will hold out for a certain size. Hunting with family and friends have nothing to do with it, i.e. My brother, his son, his son-in-law who has never hunted before and myself, go up together and sit on a ridge, glass for animals and enjoy each others company. Having multiple individuals or groups, for pay or as fam&friends, spread throughout the unit scouting while the hunt is going on. Keeping in comunication with phones and radios and calling a hunter to their location for the kill, definately is pushing issues. Posse hunting. Having a standing offer of money for the harvest of a found animal to anyone with info, i.e. The lakeside bull, the nevada outfitter war bull and the spider bull. Have all caused negative local and national press and make the nonhunting public turn their eyes and thoughts toward what we love to do in a negative way. Bounty hunting. Having a hunter at home in another state, then combing the area until the target is located, calling him in and driving him to the animal for the shot, i.e. the spider bull is pushing issues hard. Some of our most famous celebrity hunters push the issues, so be it. I feel it soils all of their accomplishments unfortunately. Gotta wonder how many more Kirt Darners, Noel Feathers, Jimmy Hustons are out there, again unfortunate but that's the pot they jump into. The B&C has turned from an independent entity, to a political members club that spins press releases to protect their standing members and their ethics code, i.e. the spider bull. From B&C themselves. FRIDAY, february 6, 2009 MISSOULA, Mont.—The Boone and Crockett Club’s recent announcement of a new World’s Record elk has generated unprecedented news coverage as well as public craving for details about the giant bull. spider Let's translate; We here at the B&C have been hammered with negative feed back (public craving), because of unpresidented (negative) news coverage and need to put out a third press realease (eductional moment) to run damage control for our most famous member. B&C is mostly about the member/hunter and less about the animal, totally oppisite of Teddy's vision. And no, they are not the driving force of all hunting we have now with TR as a good little soldier in their army. It was one vehicle TR made and used in his vision. Like all things, as soon as the founding fathers of something are gone, changes happen, good or bad. TR never had a scoring system, that came in the 50s. For the original question, just go by main frame, width and main beam length. If all other racks fit inside, it's the WR. I keep finding myself writing responces to issues or actions of those on this site and deleteing them, it's truly becoming harder to come here and not want to argue about some of the stuff written. Instead of deleting this one I'm posting and just stepping out like I had to do at MM. Kent Kent

I have not actually sat behind the nikons, I did go to cabelas when they came out with the 12s and all I can say was they seemed a little grayish when I looked through them in the store. Doesn't mean anything, plenty of people like them and find game with them. I've sat one eyed behind the Swaros and Minox, I could tell they both were excellent glass and believe it when those that use them say they are super. I have Minox 10X52s and they are fantastic, if I could use the Minox 13X56 or the 15X58, I would and never look back. That said I can find game better with a 300.00 two eye bino much better than a expensive one eye bino or scope. The Minox 15s are better optically overall, bring a bit more color and a little low light advantage. Negative is they are heavy if you pack them and may not fit your face well with the bulk. The 13s are lighter and better shaped, I could almost use them and thought about buying them and shaving the sides a little. Things a guy will think of. The Bruntons weigh 32 oz and are great to pack, very sharp optically but have a slight white wash. Do better than I thought in low light, differences are slight under the Minox and even Swaros. Durability may be an issue, so far so good after a few years. I was able to use the Bruntons this morning on my Brother's elk hunt, elk are easy to see over a coues, but they did great again. Spotted a herd of 30 plus at a couple miles in the cedar ridges at first light. I could see if they had horns even spikes at that distance no problem. Of course they move from the cedars, across the flats to right below us at 100 yds, no bull at 2 miles and no bull at 100 yds. They would have walked over us but my brother was crying so loud they just slowly walked around us. I would also add the Minox 13s in the mix at around 750.00, and of course the Leica 10-15X50s but those are so beyond my spending level, would fit my eyes though. Unless you only had 300.00 or wanted a light backpacking bino, or had Chihuahua eyes. I qualified for all three. Buy the Minox. Kent

Some animal rights group just got taken, thought they would buy some of their own wolves and get in the reintro game. HaHa, wish I had thought to get some dogs like that and sell them to those ........... Kent

Thanks for the thoughts. My leg is 60% the doc said, I was able to start walking on it 2 weeks ago. It's going to be slow going for sure. My foot sticks out to the outside quite a bit, just healed that way, so one foot steps toes straight and the other toes to the side. If I knew they could turn my foot around I would have had them point it to the rear and ran as fast backwards as I can forward. Kent

Everyones eyes are a little different, I did personal research on the roof binos I could use that would fit my narrow eyes. At the time that was the Brunton 15X51, Viper 15X50, and the Zeiss 15X45. The Zeiss were worthless except in pure daylight and I still didn't like them., I've been pounded for this opinion but those that get on me can't themselves say they're any good, just upset I say something bad on Zeiss. I repeat the 15X45 Zeiss only are crap. The Bruntons and Vipers were close, the Bruntons for me were a tad better optically and fit my face better. They both started out at 600.00, the Viper has dropped to 500.00 and the Brunton to 292.00 or something. I wouldn't get the vipers over the bruntons. The Minox is a better bino than any of those, still a hair to wide for me, 549.00 is a killer price for a very good 15X. Now , I checked out the new Kaibabs, they are supposed to close down smaller than the Swaros and they do. I can barely get them to work, if I can come up with the dough I would get them. This is how I would go depending on the money I have, if you don't see a bino it's cause I wouldn't get it at all. Brunton 15X51 300.00 Minox 15X58 550.00 Kaibab 15X56 1200.00 Swaro 15X56 1800.00 Any will find you a bedded deer in the high grass, in shadows, first light, my bruntons did for my last deer. Kent

They've been 1/2 price for a few years. I don't know if they made a bunch years ago and just don't sell much or what. I got mine for 313.00 from optics planet I think. Googled them and Amazon has them for 292.00 new in stock. It's been that way for 3 yrs that I know of. I know they were originaly 600.00 like the vortex. Maybe still clearancing old stock? Kent

Mason, I agree, you made your peace. It's cool. Once you did that I personaly took the dingle collar off you and think others should also. Some of the guys you like, do the things you say you don't like on some subjects and others you don't like, possibly myself included, support all the other things you did like. You never understand a guy until he posts quite a few times where he really is coming from. I'm getting a better feel for you. I realize you can cool off so am not offended by the DIRT BAG ARCHERY HUNTER thing now, that was harsh for someone we didn't know to well. I'm not going to agree with everyone, though I like everyone. I will state my point of view, enjoy sarcasm, giving and taking, as long as it's not malichous, never liked physical threats though. Some subjects are more serious than others and just need to be talked out, points of view usually doesn't change but an understanding of each other does and cools heads. Imagine if we all said, Heck ya, go kill the sob and you did or he you, what a hunting PR disaster for the public to see. Probably be the end of cams on public ground. Just talking a situation out from all sides. Dingle has a ton of catching up to do. Kent

Get the Minox and I'm one of the Brunton owners, I just can't get the Minox to close down enough for my eyes. Minox are great binos, German made, I love my Minox HGs in 10X. They will last you a lifetime. Get the Bruntons if your eyes need them, which you don't. Or if you want a very light weight 50mm bino for backpacking, that's another reason I use them over my heavy porros. I'm not sold on the durability of the Bruntons, even though I've road them hard for a couple years, don't seem as solid of a body as my Minox, we'll see. Get the Bruntons if you only have 300.00 bucks. If you ever upgrade to Swaros, they make great loaners or for your kids. Kent

Cool, I guess I get to take and use your cam when I find it as long as I bring it back, sometime. Oh wait, that happens all the time and no one is endorsing that. Try and keep it apples to apples, if you said you put your coat over it because it bugged you. That would have been humorous. Cam users need the goodwill of all hunters or they won't ever have one left. Not understanding that some hunters don't want to be filmed the entire time they are hunting a spot like a tank, is mindboogling. No one vandalized, used or abused the cam just made it so it wouldn't disturb them. You truly cannot see a future problem with the rise of cam use on public land. It could lead to restrictions on when you can put a camera out, time limits and not during any hunting seasons. Do you want it to be like the Flying scouting regulations, I don't, so don't abuse the goodwill of other hunters, compromise a little. Working on keeping my MM skills up, haven't been there in awhile, gotta get in top shape incase I need it. Kent

Of course not one thing was on point in that. If you park your trailer next to a tank, I will call G&F and they will site you, possibly tow it. No photo radar harrassing a hunter. I would say it is apparent who at least understands there was no molesting, just insuring their right to privacy, in the majority not half. You and Mason a buddies? Kent

We don't have to all agree, just think. Kent