yotebuster

Nice mature buck. Honestly looks like a 3x3 with a top fork on the one side and front fork on the other side. His beams look super super short, either broke or just that way. Not a buck to shoot and have expectations of scoring anything but definitely a shooter in OTC archery! I’d say he’ll have a real hard time clearing 140 and is probably in the mid to low 130’s. He’s probably the biggest looking 130-140” muley I’ve ever seen though.

I have essentially no use for this thing but am still intrigued by it and feel like I should buy a crossbow just to put it on.

I’m on 14 months with my current wait through them so don’t get your hopes up.

I’ve shot my .28 nosler without earplugs suppressed and never noticed it being abnormally loud.

I hope everyone has that attitude!!

Normally I’d tell people to actually search the points they had last year to see if they’ll draw but in the case of these hunts there’s a lot of tags and not much demand so the point creep isn’t out of control.

You could draw 7e or 11m September archery. 3b November muzzy or a 4,5,6,7 or 8 late rifle tag. Just depends on what you want out of your hunt. Should be able to kill a bull on any of those if you aren’t super picky.

If you’re gonna hire a guide I’d put in for 23n 1st and 23s 2nd. Or vice versa. They added some tags in there so you might pick off either one in the max pass. Then hire the Ground Pounders and go shoot a giant bull.

Which weapon? Looks like you could only draw 7e or 11m for September archery. You could get any November archery tag. Late rifle you can get pretty much any of the units except the alternative management units (1, 3a/c, 23, 27, 9, 10). Muzzy, most of the late but none of the early. If you can’t pass a raghorn type bull they are availabale in any unit so just pick one with a weapon you know you can get it done on and go hunting. I personally would go to CO and hunt a OTC area and knock a small bull off my bucket list and save my AZ points did a unit and hunt that can produce a big bull more consistently.

Just because they’re words doesn’t mean they’re used correctly.

*Incompetence* Anyone else see the irony?

Easy. You just gotta stick your face down in the “V”…….

I actually like 4b. Had a 380-390 bull on cam there when I had that tag years ago.

With 23 points, 4b late rifle should be a lock.

That’s just 4B

Are you a hopi tribal member? I think they’re pretty easy to get tags if you are. That’s a slick deal if so!

Don’t know the name but I don’t get out a lot around here. Pretty much just work and hunt or head to my farm 3.5hrs away if I have free time.

I guess I’ve been on 6 rut hunts in AZ and 2 in western NM and had blinds up ahead of time and bulls hitting water most of the summer and never spent a second in any of the blinds as it has rained on every single hunt I’ve been on down there. Maybe I’m just unlucky, or lucky depending on how you look at it. Probably should have phrased it like this “I wouldn’t be set on sitting water as there’s a good chance you’ll get rained on during your hunt if it’s September archery”.

It is. How many points you have?

I’m not sure where you heard to sit water, but know that the rainiest time of year in AZ is archery elk season. Unless it’s a dud of a monsoon it’ll probably rain every couple days or more. Obviously if it’s dry it can be a good tactic but certainly don’t count on it. As far as chasing them goes, just try to head off a bugle, figure out which direction they’re going and flank them and set up in front and let them move past. They bugle a lot in AZ compared to most places I’ve hunted elk, so just stay quiet and let them tell you where to be.

No center pole on that one?!? Never seen one like that

All good advice. If you’re renting a car be sure there’s a spare and jack as you’ll probably wreck a tire if you climb out of the flats anywhere. There’s deer all over that unit and plenty of hammock trees in the canyons.

So is this sold or what’s the story? Interested in it.

Probably something worse like 4b.

Great pics! That drop tine buck with the eye guards made me tent up a little.