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They have archery crane tags?!? Whoa. That’s tough. They’re tough to get to commit to decoys unless you have really good ones (deceptions or stuffers). My only thought would be decoys and letting one land. They should die about like a turkey with a bow although they are considerably smaller then a tom turkey. I use 3” 2 or 3 shot steel for them up in ND. Never shot at one with a bow though. You almost certainly can’t sneak up on them from what I’ve found, even to shotgun range so your best bet would be landing them in a field around you in a double bull or something and taking a standing shot. Maybe pass shooting with flu glue but they would have to be low in order to pull that off.

Sorry to change up on this but I’m just gonna hold onto these for truck binos for this price.

I think I have one around somewhere but I have no idea where it is. I’ll look and let you know if I found it. I’d have to ship it so it might not be worth your time anyhow.

I had an encore that I shot 125gr volume out of and never had an issue. I shot that thing hundreds and hundreds of times too.

I shoot 110 weight and haven’t seen any issues yet, I did hear that the breach plugs in the remingtons are harder then the old ultimates like mine so they are rated to 160 volume. I can’t verify that though.

I’ve only been around two of them, friends of mine who bought cva accuras against my caution. Both would only fire about 7 out of 10 times. Wouldn’t even set the primer off. Both had “stainless” barrels but they turned out to just be plated steel barrels so the bore wasn’t stainless which is important in a muzzleloader if you ask me. Can’t say that I’ve been around a new CVA but they were such a disappointment when I was around them I wouldn’t waste my time again. There’s so many better options out there I guess why risk it.

Run away from CVA and traditions. I’d get the ultimate. I own one of the original Michigan ultimates and am having another sabot less gun built. Most guns these days will shoot 1.5-2” groups when following the weird rituals that 777 requires but to get a real long range consistent gun you’ll want to use blackhorn and get something with a rifle primer ignition source or you’ll end up banging your head against the wall. If the Remington doensnt come with a muzzle break factor one into your budget as my Michigan ultimate kicks even with a break. I shoot 110gr blackhorn by weight (about 160 by volume) with a 300gr Parker black max at 2400fps. That’s got more KE then a 30-06 with 180’s. It’s a mean rig. Used to be muzzleloaders killed more like bows by just putting a big hole in a critter. These will kill with hydraulics just like any other rifle.

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I have a 2-12x42 with zero lock and duplex for sale. It has a custom turret on it so you’ll need to get a new one made from Leupold. I think it’s $60 to have that made. It’s priced accordingly. It’s in good shape, I caught the few blemishes in the pics. Optically perfect. No box. $550 shipped

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3-18x44mm VX-6 with firedot illum duplex. Optically perfect. A few blemishes on it from mounting but they’re captured in the pics. $700 shipped. No box but i’ll wrap it up in an old Five Finger Death Punch T-shirt for shipping.

How was that hunt? I’ve been eyeing it for a while. I’m guessing it’s just walking around in the timber hoping to walk up on one? Are the leaves off the trees so it’s better visibility then the oct hunt? Does the pressure from the oct rifle hunt effect them much?

Can’t you hunt all of 7e with the archery tag or is there a LE archery hunt?

I don’t give a shoot if people go to Mexico from a business perspective. I do from a personal perspective. If you read my post I covered all of that. Plenty of bad dentists in the US as well that’s why I said find one one trust and stick with them. I pointed out the reasons you can’t trust a dentist who does crowns for $300. I didn’t even brush on the fact that there’s no quality control whatsoever to keep you from getting hepatitis or worse from the guy before you. If you’d rather spend $1500 for 5 crowns, 4 of which you don’t need them $1000 for the one you did and the rest of your life fighting hep C then be my guest.

Reading something written by someone who knows more then you is what research is. I’m a dentist. I’ve dealt with the garbage work and worse yet overtreatment that comes across the border. The bad thing about bad dental work is you don’t know you have it till it’s too late.

Says the guy who’s last post as about people not researching enough. Essentially they don’t make shoot off one procedure so they do 5-6 to make ends meet. Yes you got a $300 crown instead of $1000 but they did 5 on you and you only needed one. This would be cool if it was 5 pairs of binos for the price of one but with dental work the more work you do the more problems you will have, so you’re setting yourself up for a lifetime of problems.

I’ve done a bit more research on the topic then most people. I’ll cut and paste my previous post as it sums it up well. “Be careful in Mexico. I went to dental school in Glendale and saw some really bad stuff come out of Mexico. Their cost per procedure is going to be lower but they are gonna make it up in volume. I can’t count how many times I saw someone who needed one crown and a couple fillings and they came back with 4-5 crowns. Yes they probably spent the same or less for those 4-5 crowns but the thing about dental work is that if you do 4-5 crowns poorly you’re setting yourself up for a really really expensive future. Everything dental goes up exponentially each time you mess with it. A sealant is $30 (sealing a crack before a cavity) a filling is $200 (cutting the cavity out and filling it back up) a crown is $1000 (cutting the tooth into a top hat shape and recovering it with a new ceramic top) a root canal and crown is $2500. Taking the tooth out and replacing with an implant is $3500. All of these prices will be lower in MX, but I can promise you they don’t stay in business at the prices they charge without doing volume. If someone comes into my office for a $1000 crown my overhead eats up pretty quick. If I do two the second one has much much higher profit and so on. That’s how they make money on a $300 crown. The other thing to keep in mind is the dental lab work from down there is atrocious. I saw stuff in dental school that I know I could have done better on when I was 8 yrs old. Just for reference, my dental lab charges me $250 to build me a crown. That’s what it costs for quality work. If I charged $300 for crowns I would go out of business in a hurry. Im betting they get their crowns from Mexican labs for $15-30. Scary thought if you ask me. When you think about the stuff a tooth has to go through, acid, hot coffee to cold ice cream in the same bite, hundreds of PSI of pressure. The thought that a $15 piece of lab ceramic made by an underage worker in a lab mill in Mexico is gonna make it more then a few years is not happening. That’s my two cents on it. Get a dentist you trust. Spend the money. You won’t regret it. I wish I were closer I could get you set up. “

Interesting choice with 12BW late as 1st and 12b late as 2nd? Can’t you hunt the whole unit with the latter tag?

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Good for conservation. The game and fish will just correct it based on harvest objective and population objectives and it will generate more revenue for the state.

Bump with updated price.