yotebuster

I'm tuning into this one!

I just scored a sweet deal on a pair of 8.5x42 swarovisions on a local classified page. I've always run middle of the road neck Binos so I wouldn't fret when the got bumped around a bit. I want something to protect these since they are way to nice to beat up. My question is, what is the best wearable bino case? I've aquired a kuiu one at one point and an Alaskan guide creations set but they all seem so huge. Anyone have one that is small and trim? More interested in protecting lenses then the entire body I guess. Looking for something that isn't so big you can store a small child in.

Lotsa good info on how low of elevation 3a/3c is and how rough 4b is coming from these posts lately! Keep it coming!!!

If that's the case it means I drew deer elk and oryx. I hope you're right but afraid you probably aren't!

No muzzlebreak!?!? Good lord!!

Gun bow or muzzy?

How are you finding out all of this info Red? I heard they got rid of the back around way of finding out draw odds early this year?

I think this guy was just being a dick.

Good lord. 6 points. Coulda had a late rifle bull tag in a lot of units or an October cow tag in a primo unit. I don't know anything about those units so I'm no help.

This is a sweet deal. I'll buy it if you can drive it up to ND for me!

+1. If you get back on here and keep us updated with scouting pics etc you'll be blown away by all the info people will help you with over the years. Throw up a pic of you and your son with your elk this coming sept! Good luck!

With the exception of chevelon itself, and maybe wildcat I don't think there's a spot in 4B that has more then a 150' elevation change? The places I've hunted in there were flat as a table top!

I concur. Atleast when they are feeding by you can shoot the first one instead of waiting for the last one. I would say that killing a raghorn or spike might be easier then a cow since you can call him in.

Isn't it at the same time as the bull hunt? There's an October cow hunt but I thought that was rifle?

There are a lot of elk in 4b with higher density being in the area south of the 504 rd. Don't over look the north PJ country but for highest density stick to the southern half. Get up 3 hrs before light and listen for bugles. Get the wind right and head them off. Won't be hard to kill a cow in there.

There's more elk south of the 260 though!!!

24a. That's what I meant. There aren't even any elk in 24B are there?

Did this bull come out of 24 B?

Those beams cost him 10-15" but the thirds make up for that. Hard to tell with only being able to see his head but I'd say 345 minimum and pushing 355?

NM draw has already passed. In the future it's a good backup. The units just across the az border are typically regarded as the best but are hard to draw. The area along the Colorado border has some pretty good draw odds if you study them and has (in my opinion) a much better chance at a 6pt bull then Colorado. Don't go into those northern units expecting a 350 bull or bust or you'll go bust for sure, but for a chance to get out and chase rutting Bulls it's a way better option then Colorado. Some of the archery tags in there have 20-60% draw odds so they're defninitely obtainable tags. Another option is a landowner tsg. Prices have probably gone up but last I checked you could get a landowner archery tsg in some of those northern units for $1000-1500. As far as Colorado goes listen to 1uofacat as he hit the nail on the head.

If I lived in AZ and wanted to go elk hunting I'd look hard at doing one of the raghorn hunts on the reservation. I think tag pricewise you'll be in about the same amount of cash and won't have to drive so far. You're gonna be hunting the same size elk as you will in Colorado except you'll atleast get to see big Bulls on the Rez. Not sure if they sell those or if they are a draw but it's worth looking into. If you go on any of the websites for the pack trip guys in Colorado you'll quickly see that raghorns are pretty much the norm. We hunted there for 5-6 years and I saw one 6 pt in that amount of time, a 250 bull. We killed a few raghorns in those years and had a lot of fun but we worked really hard for the ones we got. It was a big deal back at camp if you heard a bugle!!

Binos sold to bobby.

Looking to clear out the safe a little. First up is a pair of 2010ish 15x56 neu with box and all paperwork. The only thing wrong with them is one of the objective lens caps tether is broke. These took a fall in 2014 and were sent into swaro and all new lenses were placed and a clean bill of health given. Only reason I'm selling is I have a pair of HD's now. $1275 shipped. I'm in ND so obviously all of this will need to be shipped so shipping is included in all prices. At these prices PayPal gift is the only payment option I can offer.

TTT. Please don't make me have to take an additional picture of the twist out eyecups. I took them out so I could get a good picture of the ocular glass in the light to show there are no blemishes on them. These have the twist out Swarovski eye cups on them I just failed to get a pic of them as I assumed everyone knew how they are removed and put back on quickly. Absolutely fixed on the price at $1275 shipped. You will not find a better deal on a pair of 15's in next to new condition.