elkaholic

JAvi- this ISE has been coming to PHX for the past 10-12 yrs. or more these tags where never intended for this expo- the azsfw/sfw would have started a different /new expo to sell the tags - all expenses paid and special banquets to sell raffle - others tags = all expenses paid and all administration expenses paid - in full before any money was givin to wildlife groups of special interest projects - and of course with azsfw in full contol of the money!!! This ADA banquet didn't have/ (hasn't had ) any interests of the azsfw agenda - They have always sold the govenors tag - of one sort or another - last yr they teamed up with the antelope org to help raise money - the money goes to G&F. All the banquets we have now and have had for some time raise the big $$$$ - the elk - the antelope - the bighorn sheep etc.- and we know how and where the money goes etc - this is the very reason this bill 2072 got started - so they azsfw could and would have complete control the tags and the money. They still want it - we can not allow this special interest group to try ansd weasel out of the corruption and behind the lines blindsides backstabbing attempt to steal them from under our noses - after all thes orgs put their trust in them - bunch of low -lifes that need to GO AWAY AND OR BE DRIVIN OUT! this letter - rather insulting attempt to smooth things over to see things the way they want them to be is as bad an attempt as weiers memo we dont know whats good for us but they do - so come along now - stand in line and take your medicine !

i quit ordering things online and having a computer error screw things up - especially while charging - i will not give/use my chargecard onl;ine anymore for that reason - it sucks when it happens - wait till we start hearing about all the mistakes g&f is gonna have happen - i've heard things didnt accept multipule apps etc - guys doing it 3-4 times - It's the age we live in! i want a new ford cuz it talks to me !!??

so you hit the button over and over and over agin- sometimes ya gotta understand its the computer glitch not the company - I'm sure the way it's set -up they can not correct the order till you notify them - if you are unhappy - sorry it happened - I've never had a problem but then i usually contact them directly so i know there is no mistakes! since all the other 7 times was online - by you and automatically charged to your card - they still had to charge agin to place the order - though i see it as an inconvience - it happens they explaned the problem - I'm sure they were having no issues refunding the exta charges to your account. They will still get all my business- usually the best deals to be found with excellent customer service - i do not see a real problem here . I'll still be recommending them to all who need answers about optics or looking for great deals.

I think you might already owe me 10$ - lol but i'm in! "Stupid words by stupid people LOL your such a tool I see the same 5 trouble makers are still at it. Smackattack " SA- and it doesn't stand for smack attack -- I gotta ask - Did I make it to the big time and actually belong to a group - "5 trouble makers " I know it may not include myself but gee i hope so - quite the honor i might add - if not can you please rephrase your statment and call us 6 trouble makers - or I'll feel left out!

For the record, the ADA will not be pulling out of the AZSFWC. That group had no dog in the HB2072 fight no dog???? but you have the same lobbyist susan gilstrap = you have pierce - hamberlin - gilstrap - green sitting as board members of both ORGs . these are the head of the snake we call 2072 - no dog in the fight!???azsfw and the azsfwc can not be different if they have the same MAIN people!! no dogs but a pack of tag hungry wolfs!!

my first trail cam left in the desert - it's still there- had 860 picks in 3 weeks - 1/2 of them at night - auto flash off- stupid me! lots of birds/wind blown branchs. a learning experience on how best to place a camera so animals do not disturb it - we found it upside down in wash and had only taken pics for 2 of the 3 weeks. hunted friday but they came in late - guess they winded us and spooked. Back out tomorrow - hope the rains hold off.

got nothin against rain - in fact I hope it pours all day tomorrow - but I'll not be out chasin piggys in pourin rain ,as i havent located the den yet- this spot won't matter much if it rains - there will be pockets of water everywhere. so far it says 30% tomorrow 70 % tomorrow night - winds gustin to 20- not a real good time to be out lookin for piggys who'll be packed somewhere out of the weather ,best they can! not to mention if some of these areas get 1/4 inch rain in the mountains - those big ole burned out areas can cause some real floodin problems for the roads/washes

i gotta say a raccoon - ya can see the tail curled under a face

state regs on firearms up on agenda tomorrow http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/50leg/2r/bills/hb2729p.htm&Session_ID=107

well add another week easily off the original thread - we been askin for a while before this thread( a repost)- or like any of the others orgs posting their point of view or comments - surely a few have been here and read all the info - the- lets wait see what the others do first - is whoooozie B.S. attitudes. we see whos got cahoonas and who doesn't already

you should have entered it last yrs trail cam contest - best bear sequence i ever saw! It's piggy season so with less hunting time and just before san carlos crappie fishing- he must have a little computer time between work! nice pics - buddy

i've got to ASK why this - why now - since all g&f commission meeting are on live video - i do not see how this is ever gonna work - people stand up and ask a question - it needs to be addressed and answered - how can the commission stand mute on issues that are related to future legislation!?? Am i wrong?

Why did archery crazy vote against the Omnibus bill?...All the other groups voted for it...just curious...BPJ my thank you was in bringing this amended "farce " to the bill - to our attention-- I do not know if and why he might have voted against the bill - we been trying to figure out why you are still supporting the people you are? just courious?

A big Thank YOU Archerycrazy - be vigilant - we appreciate it- !

I hope you enjoy your new home away from home -

probably looking to get it closed or removed - thats my thought!- like ginos thread-- so just 86 him!!

http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/50leg/2r/proposed/h.2639-p2-gowan.doc.htm&Session_ID=107

well i sent an email to these people on the committee - guess you can copy and paste - heres round 2 - who said they are not trying to control the commission!? please call these people also ! jdial@azleg.gov,ahale@azleg.gov,jdial@azleg.gov,rgallego@azleg.gov,cmiranda@azleg.gov, jharper@azleg.gov,dsmith@azleg.gov,dstevens@azleg.gov

it is tomorrow - http://www.azleg.gov/agendas/02080110107.pdf

Hopefully you informed the commission of this amendment - this is total B.S.- so much for weiers - this guy is a piece of works- includung his sponsor group - Thanks for bringing this to our attention

+1 - Family-good freinds - congrats to all the successful hunters.

I knew I made popcorn for a reason this evening - lol

we got lucky - had my first cam out - left it for 3 weeks - when we walked up and i didnt see it attched to the location - i was like no D+++way - there is nobody going into this location- What a relief - its laying in ythe bottom of the draw 20 yrds away . upside down - guess the piggy s were playing keep away with it - all scratched up lense full of mud - only worked for 2 of the 3 weeks. had lots photos - flash was not on so over 1/2 where blk from night photo's Got a really promising spot for opening day HAM - NICE between birds - grass moving trees moving - surprised to actually see some pigs

tons of good stuff below horseshoe dam along the verde - i use to get loads for taxi to offset cost of mounts

there should be only one question asked or discussed at the meeting Will the ADA continue to support the azsfw- azsfwc- or anyone associated with ideals of the sfw way of controling/manipulating the rights of Arizona's Sportsmen for the benifit of a private org. as far as most of us are concerned they are all one and the same = no difference enity crap - same people in the same groups - gilstrps - pearce -hamberlin etc. we all know 2072 is why this question is being rasised "We were never given the courtesy of seeing the legislation before it was dropped and obviously never gave any input. This is wrong, flat wrong, and something you do not do to someone who is supposed to be your partner." do you want to continue letting someone use the ADA name to represent Arizona sportsmens values in reguards to decisions for Arizona and the wildlife - when they do not value your imput! Please concider who supports you! You know how we feel - how about a poll thread - for or against any groups supporting azsfw the topic of bringing back the utah tag should be discussed also .