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NFS way over stepping their authority by closing a major road due to BEARS - This should be wher G&F steps in and patrols and they do something to discourage the bears from hanging around. advising people to take precautions while outing or camping - stopping people traveling into the areas and tell them about the bears but close the road wasn't necessary. closing the road is pure B.S.- people traveling the road are in no danger of bears .

gotta go with goat skull also - heres a bunch to compare http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-11-Partial-Goat-Skulls-with-Horns-from-Texas-/390617704342?pt=US_Taxidermy&hash=item5af2a12796

I guess because I never get to hunt out of state - it doesn't bother me - why would anyone want to haul a whole carcass across state lines anyway and as far as clean skulls etc - same thing Keeping antlers clean of tissue shouldn't be an issue - why would you even be transporting the skull if it wasn't going to a taxidermy. where does it state anything about processing out of state meat ? deboning is as easy as pie - cutting and wrapping meat and having it on ice protects it - equals less meat waste - extra trips - ?? just be glad they don't demand you bring it in for inspection before entering the state - where you must contact them for inspection / samples before bring any game meat taken in another state

maybe in 3 weeks I'll give it some thought - now - figured a bluff

ok like where in that link does it state anything like his post - unless I speed read to fast

hello - could you please provide information - link- where you got the info and what you are talking about - so others can understand what you are trying to say

I sign up as official "CWT taster ", to give it the thumbs up or down rate of approval - lol I hate to sound crazy but lately I've found out just about any meat product/ seared and put in a cook bag with all the extras - turns out AWESOME example - any round steak - seasoned anyway you like- seared -" I use sunflower seed oil" and 2 cans of diced tomatoes with green chili- and use a cooking bag - flour bag - one can spread on the bottom / then add seared steaks / one can spread on top- seal bag, slice holes and cook at 350 for 2 hrs -- will be the best way "ever " to get a basically tough piece of meat so tender you can cut it with a fork delicious you can do the same with any roast / prepared to your taste and add all kinds of fresh cut veggies and a can of stock - instead of tomatoes/chili and it will produce same results

a place for unexpected mother-in laws - or father-in laws whom want to stay - easy choice usually - they leave - no offense

- heres the rest of the story -the real pisser - been happening for over 14 years and they knew about it!! even right here in AZ http://cnsnews.com/news/article/irs-sent-46378040-refunds-23994-unauthorized-aliens-1-atlanta-address

man that's one old trout - huge ole girl - very unique coloring - +1 on a molded mount painted to match- send lots of pics -if available easiest cheapest and last forever without cracking or fading- ( or sometimes smelling- lol ) back in the day - I use to do this for the boy scouts - using t-shirts instead of rice paper - so the could have a copy of the fish they caught and still eat them - lol make a fish print - just make a pile of sand /fine dirt to lay fish as flat as possible with the fins visible - clean/dry fish of water and then paint -fabric paint- - apply t/shirtand pat lightlightly and you get a good print of the fish it looks alittle bigger as the roundness of the fish to get all the fins - but the boys didn't mind - dated and even a hand print - was a cool way to show off their catch http://tlc.howstuffworks.com/family/fish-activities3.htm

I knew it was gonna rain - dang flies were bitin my legs outside yesterday afternoon - don't ask me why but i expect rain when the flies start bitin

Game and Fish Commission to meet June 14-15 in Payson Commission to consider draft hunting and fishing license structure/fees; proposed revisions to hunt guidelines; hunt orders for dove and band-tailed pigeons The next meeting of the Arizona Game and Fish Commission will be June 14-15 at the Mazatzal Hotel & Casino on Highway 87, Mile Marker 251, in Payson, Ariz. The meeting begins at 8 a.m. both days. One of the highlights of the Saturday, June 15 portion of the agenda will be consideration of a new draft hunting and fishing license structure and license/tag fees that will be taken to the public for comment. This will include discussion of the public input received on the license structure and fee concepts that have been presented at a recent series of public meetings. Other highlights on Saturday’s agenda include a briefing on the revised hunt guidelines and consideration of the hunt orders for dove, band-tailed pigeon and sandhill crane. The public is invited to either attend the meeting in person, view it live via video stream at any Game and Fish regional office, or view it over the web at www.azgfd.gov/commissioncam. Members of the public who wish to speak to the Commission may submit Speaker Cards (Blue Cards) in person at the meeting or from any regional Game and Fish office. The ability to speak to the Commission is not available for those viewing the webcast online. Items on the Friday, June 14 portion of the agenda include: A “Payson and Mogollon Rim Community Forum” to discuss current and future matters and collaborative work involving the Department and the local community (this item begins at 8 a.m. and will not be webcast). Topics of discussion on this item will include: Mogollon Streams Restoration Project (East Verde River, Tonto Creek, Christopher Creek, Haigler Creek and Canyon Creek). Mogollon Rim area Chiricahua Leopard Frog Project. Mogollon Rim area Rocky Mountain bighorn sheep (Mazatzal and heck’s Gate areas). Bear safety and bear-proof dumpster update. State Route 260 wildlife crosswalk and crossings. Tonto National Forest travel management (presented by Neil Bosworth, Tonto National Forest supervisor). Mogollon Sporting Association (dedicated to Rim Country’s youth and wildlife). Update on state and federal legislation (this item is scheduled for 10:30 a.m. and begins the webcast of the rest of the Commission meeting on Friday and Saturday). Request for approval of an intergovernmental agreement between the Commission and the White Mountain Apache Tribe to coordinate nuisance bear responses. Request for approval to acquire a Special Use Permit from the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest for development of the Second Knoll Shooting Range. Consideration of three nominations to fill vacant spots on the Landowner-Lessee/Sportsman Relations Committee. Request for approval of the exchange of a portion of the Page Springs Fish Hatchery property for an adjacent riparian area. Briefing on the Department’s participation in the Western Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies Grassland Initiative. Briefing on Department missions and challenges that required out-of-state travel in fiscal year 2012. Consideration of proposed Commission meeting dates and locations for 2014. Update on award categories for the 2013 Commission awards. Hearings on license revocations for violations of Game and Fish codes, and civil assessments for the illegal taking and/or possession of wildlife (time certain at 2 p.m.). Items on the Saturday, June 15 portion of the agenda include: Consideration of several consent agenda items. Consideration of proposed Commission Orders 19 (dove), 20 (band-tailed pigeons) and 24 (sandhill cranes) for the 2013-14 hunting season, establishing seasons and season dates, bag and possession limits, and open and closed areas. Consideration of proposed Commission Order 29 for the 2014-15 Special Big Game License-Tag seasons (see next item), establishing seasons and season dates, bag and possession limits, permit numbers, and open areas. Consideration of applications for Special Big Game Hunt License-Tags for antelope, bighorn sheep, black bear, buffalo, elk, javelina, mountain lion, mule deer, white-tailed deer, and turkey for 2014-15. The Commission may vote to take action on applications from organizations for these tags as per R12-4-120. Briefing on public comment received thus far on the existing hunt guidelines and presentation of a preliminary draft of the revised guidelines. Consideration of a draft hunting and fishing license structure and license/tag fees, including a briefing on public input received thus far on license structure and fee concepts. The Commission may vote to approve or modify the draft structure and fees before they are presented to the public for comments. The Department will request Commission approval of a Draft Notice of Exempt Rulemaking amending multiple rules within A.A.C. Title 12, Chapter 4. To view a copy of the full meeting agenda, visit www.azgfd.gov/commission and click on the “commission agenda” link. The Arizona Game and Fish Commission is the policy-setting board overseeing the Arizona Game and Fish Department. It is composed of five members (serving staggered five-year terms) appointed by the Governor and confirmed by the Senate. No more than one commissioner may be from any one county. No more than three may be from the same political party. Since its inception in 1929, this organizational structure has served as a buffer for the best interests of science-driven wildlife conservation during eight decades of back-and-forth political change. For more information on the Commission, visit www.azgfd.gov/commission.

do not forget tonto national forest- taked to a ranger - he stated not a single hunter attend the hearing for foreclosures - they are opening some roads and actually installing gates on others ! opening some roads and making others official rds only - some of the closures were in the cavecreek burn area ! they expect a map by the first of the yr 2014

sorry not is this lifetime or the next - he doesn't \deserve anything - respect has to be earned - he's a disgrace to America !

do not be surprised with a lot of changes on how you can hunt and where even paying for you and members of your group to hunt . http://azgfd.net/artman/publish/NewsMedia/Game-and-Fish-working-to-maintain-access-on-Big-Boquillas-Ranch.shtml

could be anyplace but I see that in unit 5bs a lot- great pics.!

Why are you dropping dimes firstcoueswas80? If you are that jealous why dont you just hire a guide to take you hunting...again. Congrats on the tag wing master, hope you get a monster. who gives achit if it was his first time ever applying !! like you've never been lucky firstcoueswas80- -- enough of the jealous/ hate you got drawn crap on here !! shows your real colors firstcoueswas80 - needs to change his login to DABUSDRIVA

stick-flicker - well that had to be a long time ago ive been there several times-- (4) no searches ever - not even to see if firearm unloaded- no real hassles to speak of- they(guards) were very nice- never had a problem checkin in or out - you can call guard shack now to check in and out -I've come in way after dark - never a issue - its now a lot easier than what you've experienced- they probably moved you as the north camp site is next to the firing range- they do have two areas to camp-out -roads are not really maintained once you get in the woods but doable easily with a 4x4- you can have woodcutters in the woods also and guys working on the forest-trimming - etc yes they can shut down hunting at anytime and sometimes limit you to hunting 1/2 the area available but usually for a single day or 1/2 day- military training first!- hunters are like 3-4 on the list of importance anyway - yes it is a military base and they do have rules to follow and you'll be hunting a very limited area! good luck on your hunt dawg - i'm still available to answer question - yes I've taken a couple elk off the depot!

if you look at the regulations a lot of coues and muledeer alternate - example mule 29 - nov-1-7 nov15-21 ---- whitetail -oct 25- 31 nov 8-nov14 if possible the other guys could come early or you stay late and have overlapping hunts. so one group is hunting and possibly scouting for the other at the same time! A lot of units do have BOTH good numbers of muleys and whitetails

awe -- Waterloo, Ia farming roots outside Denver - wish I could revisit those days. long time ago - ages 0-9 --- 9- present phx az

By Dennis WagnerThe Republic | azcentral.comMon May 27, 2013 10:50 PM A former law-enforcement boss at the Arizona Game and Fish Department embezzled thousands of dollars from an undercover account set up to catch wildlife poachers and should be charged with felony theft, a state police investigation concludes. The Department of Public Safety report alleges that John G. Romero, who resigned while under investigation in early February, set up a covert bank account using his old undercover name and siphoned public money for three years before it was detected. Investigative findings, including a request for prosecution, were submitted to Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne more than two months ago. No charges have been filed to date, and a spokeswoman for the Attorney General’s Office said she could not comment. Romero, who could not be reached, told investigators he did not use funds for personal expenses, according to the report. But he admitted a failure to maintain records or to get payments approved, the report says. Gary Hovatter, special assistant to the Game and Fish director, said the 22-year officer retired with full benefits. Hovatter said a claim may be filed for recovery of the cash. He also said the matter was referred to the Arizona Peace Officer Standards and Training Board, which regulates law-enforcement officers and is empowered to withdraw certification. According to the DPS report, Game and Fish officials requested an independent probe in October after an audit of the Operation Game Thief program, designed to catch wildlife poachers. Records showed cash withdrawals by an unknown person named Greg D. Gomez. Romero had been given that pseudonym, with a matching driver’s license and Social Security card, years earlier when he worked undercover in the department’s Special Operations Unit. Game and Fish officials told DPS investigators that the fake identity was canceled in 2000 and that Romero had not worked undercover since 2004. They said Romero never received permission to resurrect the identity or create a covert bank account and never filed expense reports concerning the payouts. The DPS report says at least $13,600 went into the “Gomez” account, which was linked to Romero’s home address. Nearly all that money was withdrawn. DPS investigators concluded that Romero improperly authorized his own expenses and was not challenged because the employee who issued checks “knows not to ask any questions” about undercover operations. State police said that most of the withdrawals by Romero took place on days when he did not work and when his personal bank account was low or empty. The report says Romero failed to provide documentation of how the funds were used and stammered when asked to explain, as illustrated by a transcribed excerpt: “You know, I spend it on, uh, you know, mostly it’s for the uh, you know, the payment of, of, of services. Uh, use it for the, uh, the, you know, I help out other regions with, uh, with payments of, of, uh, just informant money or projects or, you know, just different things of that nature.” Romero told investigators he kept his activity reports at home but was “not the best bookkeeper. … It seems like I’m playing fast and loose with this,” he added, “and sometimes I do.” Romero, whose salary was $65,362, wrote the Game and Fish Department’s policy manuals for investigations and special operations. He was a nationally recognized expert on illegal trafficking of reptiles and served as a training officer. Department records obtained via a public-records request show that Romero had been promoted through the ranks to a top enforcement job despite repeated disciplinary memos for failure to maintain and submit official records. Hovatter said Game and Fish administrators have taken steps to prevent future violations of financial-accountability rules at the agency. Reach the reporter at dennis.wagner@arizonarepublic.com.

how about some cords- how far off the crocton rd etc . how far north of round mtn?

lol - guess this could also include special occasions - no offense meant towards anyone - ok ! thought you all might like this one::: My wife asked me the other day, "At your age, what would you prefer to get - Parkinson's or Alzheimer's?" I answered, "Definitely Parkinson's, Better to spill half an ounce of Crown Royal, than to forget where you keep the bottle."

I've seen at least one - I can remember - at my inlaws by Williams - dog was barkin up a storm at a drain/metal corrugated pipe under the driveway. thought it was the usual a skunk - I got surprised by a hissin opossum they are a very nocturnal animal - no surprise not many are seen

just get on google earth to find all the easy access points- the river end can be crowded but getting there Friday will help -- the roads paved almost to the lake