AzDiamondHeat

Not when it is my WIFE who has been in the hospital multiple times for it. Let me clarify...she shoots the crossbow because she WILL tear her arm out if she tries to pull back a bow(already did it once). There is no maybe or "worry" about it. But at least she is out trying to fill her own tag and not being proxy for a dude who just wants another elk hunt or even a point gatherer for our kids. (this is not directed at you trphy or anyone at all, just a general statement). She TRULY wants to hunt the elk up close during the rut and be a part of that. Who wouldn't? Again though, if they say she has to shoot the crossbow during general so be it. But until then she will pursue them in the rut with a crossbow. She is a LEGITIMATE recipient and happy user of this allowance. I am not a crossbow fanboy but I do think they have their place. For me, I can do without them, but for my wife, I am happy she has the option. But I will never let her use a cell enabled game cam. That is just unethical....lol

Lets not start telling people how they should or should not be allowed to hunt or shame them because they need assistance perusing their passion. I would LOVE to see a crossbow season(for my wife). If they mandated crossbows, airbows etc were only allowed during general I would be fine with that too. There are a LOT of things I don't like about the current state of hunting, but lets not confuse ethics with physical inability.

You don't even need a doctor. You can have a nurse or a chiropractor sign off. My wife has a crossbow permit as do I. I got mine because my shoulder was torn and I have a history of shoulder surgeries. My wife was injured as a child and can draw a bow but runs the danger of it tearing out her shoulder. As such we avoid that and she shoots a crossbow. Truth is though she has never killed an animal with it. Personally, I hate using a crossbow for elk and never will. To ME, they are cumbersome and provide little to no advantage(maybe a little in the optics end). Yes, they can shoot quarter size groups off a tripod at 60 or more, but who carries a tripod with them in the field?(other than blind sitters). I feel I am actually more accurate off hand with my bow than I am with the crossbow. And faster. Sitting in a blind is a WHOLE different story. Crossbows are PERFECT for sitting in a blind. With my crossbow I can hit every single trail cam around any water hole if I am sitting and braced on a tripod.

Well done! The way the weather was on this hunt ANY sheep is a trophy. I would have GLADLY shot a ewe(and tried) but got lucky and dumb stumbled on to my ram. Like you said, they are hard to get a shot on. Looks like you were hunting different terrain than we were too. I like yours a LOT better...lol Congrats man. I wonder how Buckshot did. He hasn't checked in yet....

Just got word that Golden Girl dropped a ram just a few minutes ago. Will have to wait for story and pics until they have cell service. Hopefully T has enough time to find his. He takes FOREVER taking pictures....lol

Most likely I can do it. Probably maybe.

I don't understand why they just don;t make "common sense" laws that make it illegal to kill people. If they just did THAT we would be a peaceful society and would have no need to regulate tools.

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Did a bonehead thing and grabbed 2 boxes of hm2 instead of hmr. Paid $12 each and will sell for same.

Thanks guys. It was certainly a learning process. In just that short time i feel much more confident though. My understang is they taste like butt and chew like shoe leather. Supposed ro make decent sausage and chorizo which is where this one is going.

They put that on there so you can be assured of being drawn for bighorn before your license expires.

We have 2 ft at the cabin in Strawberry right now. Still snowing. Weather says more possible incoming days/weeks. We will take anything right now and be very grateful for it.

Day 5. Another super windy day. winds on this trip were clocked at steady between 10-15 mph and gusts as high as 28. Dust was choking. No sheep today but we tried HARD to get one for T and Golden Girl. The only consolation is they are NM residents and get to go back next weekend to try again Golden Girl on the "Victory Drive" back to camp. She started a new tradition where we have to run all our flashing colored lights any time we fill a tag. the price we pay to hunt with a "chosen one" 17 yr old girl.... Sunset. Goodby NM

Day 4. Great faith in day 4. the Golden Child(T's daughter who has more luck than any 1 human being should have) showed up last night. Today will be good. Morning- right off we spot 1 ram and 3 ewes. of course they are on a sky island at 1600 yds. HARD pass. Afternoon- wind STILL SUCKS!!!!!! So maybe she's not all that goldden after all. We start heading back down the mountain. Over a little rise at teh bottom of the ridge and "STOP!" T yells there's barbary ram at that water hole! We BAIL out of the sxs (I grab my gun) and T is down off the side prone. I yell out 530yds and he says "on it!". Fires. HIT!(sort of) and off the dang thing runs... This time I don't just watch though. I shoot and mr barbary takes a flop. Jumps up and flops back and rolls off the hill a bit. I was certian I missed and the ram was down from T's shot. We gather everything up and head down. He calls me over to have a look and tells me we need to figure out who's ram it is. I said, "well it's yours". It was a no brainer. He saw it, he shot it first and it was his. He disagreed. We ran back through the shot sequence and he AND his daughter made a very persuasive argument that it was MY ram. The Ram was shot twice. Turns out T shot it in the lower front lip and busted its lower jaw and front lower teeth. T is actually a VERY good shot but just had a monkey on this trip for some reason. I had NEVER seen him miss before this trip. Based on how the second shot completely disabled him, they convinced me I should have the ram. I graciously accepted and quite honestly almost cried at his selflessness. Yes, my friend just GAVE me a 30 inch ram that he could have rightfully claimed and NOBODY would have been upset. This entire experience was amazing and truly a TEAM effort. easiest pack out EVER the team

Day 3 Wind SUUUUUUUUUCKS. That's all I have to say about this day.

Day 2. Now that we KNOW where to find all the sheep we head back to the hidden canyon. All we need to do is pop over this one small rise and bingo. Easy. HAHAHAHAAHHAAAHAA After 47 "small" rises and miles and miles of walking we saw exactly ZERO sheep, Finally we spot a nice ram and 4 ewes out on a little rock island...1400 yds and 2 canyons away. No chance at all. We start heading that way and they are GONE. We are noticing a pattern. They see us witihn 1000 yds and RUUUUUN.

and now....the REST of the story.... DAAAAAY 1... Beautiful day. Off and on rain with nominal wind right off the bat we find 4 sheep(3 ewes and a small ram) at 650yds. T asks if I want them and I say "heck ya I'll shoot a small ram". I wander back to the sxs to get my rifle and take a leak so I can set up for the shot and "They're gone!" says T. They saw us at 650 at RAN. Lesson 1 learned. These are NOT coues deer. If anywhere within 800 yds they can see you, they run. FOREVER. You WILL NOT FIND THEM if you chase(had to learn this MANY times). Noon- another group of 7 ewes this time down in the canyon moving. They don't see us. Ran like mad to get in front of them. 250yds and heading over the last ridge. Can't find them in the scope and T does not want to shoot a ewe. They see and run. They're gone. Evening. Driving back to a nice little canyon that nobody else has been in. We jump a HUGE( HUUUUUGE) ram. T jumps out and sets up. I range at 280 yds. T is prone and ready . SHOT.......... miss. He friggin MISSED. Ram moves 15 more yds and stands there. T is all discombobulated and can't get back on him. My rifle is still in the sxs(lesson #2 learned). He runs. FOREVER We chase and bump TWO more rams and 2 ewes. Over the ridge and they are GONE. Very "educational" day

Sorry for no info. Was planning on updating but ZERO service here. Drawvtag inn 29/30 for me. No sheep yet. A couple blown opportunities though

More like your points will be switched to someone else....

Its Japanese. The writing says "made in Japan".

I think this is like an obamacare type law. Designed to fail so that socialized medicine can be implemented. This disaster is intentionally vague and made to cause problems so that the "fine, we will just ban them all" position will be the "common sense" solution. Dont forget what kind of people have been infiltrating Az govt lately.

ill take one of the little semis that has a magazine. wll send pm with contact

I can tell where to look for them in 24a. But its more of a drive than you have stated.

I will take it if not already spoken for. This will be perfect for my niece.

Meh. Talk to me when you get the 45/70 Creedmoor.