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55.2gr H4831SC, 110gr Nosler Accubond, seated into the lands. Never owned a chrono so couldn't tell ya the speed. Consistent 7/8" groups at 198 yds. Flipped a buck onto its back and was DRT @ 40 yds. Only animal shot at with this load.

That's me. Must be your friend with the white chevy tahoe and the sticker on the driver rear side next to the American flag. Just got on to post it, lol. Tell your friend to say hi. Wasn't at Bear mountain though! Jerry

Christine and I had a great time. Was a pleasure to meet all of you who were there. We look forward to the next one. Jerry

Check out LRH.com and search for 338 Edge or contact Shawn Carlock. There is more information from those two then you could possibly take in in a week. Personally, I'd go with either a 20 or 40 MOA inclined rail, oversized bolt handle, 1-10" twist for shooting the 300gr pills, Badger Ordanence rings, and a cosine indicator if you want to shoot the far stuff. Been a few years since I looked into a long range rig, so I'm sure there is newer and greater out there, but that's my thought. Or a 338 Allen Mag Jerry

Not sure of any that offer true otc tags, but Wyoming typically has a bunch of leftovers that get sold otc, fist come, fist served. Thought about doing that trip last year, but put it off for another year or two. Jerry

Great looking shop, and it was nice to meet some fellow members. Also, thanks for taking the time to show my fiance how to shoot. Jerry

I used to live in Gunnison, CO. Feel free to pm me with any questions. And what exactly concerns you about private land? How to avoid it or gaining access to it? Jerry

Realizing that I am a newer member here, and one that does not post often, I hesitate to make this post asking for something. I am an assistant scoutmaster with a boy scout troop in Tempe, and many of the boys have approached me asking about the Tracking merit badge. This was one of the very first merit badges every created, but was discontinued in 1952. With this year being the 100th anniversary of scouting, this merit badge, along with 3 others, has been reinstated for this year only, yet with the original requirements. As much as I love hunting, and all that it entails, I know my inexperience would not do the scouts justice if I were to teach them the badge on my own. I'd like to ask among the more knowledgeable members here if one would be willing to spend a Tuesday evening in late May or June helping to teach these young boys about tracking. I've included a link to the merit badge requirements, and thank you for considering helping. Jerry Tracking Merit Badge

Hit up GMUResearch.com. Never hunted 104, but I have a good friend who hunts the untis near Baily. Further away, the Gunnison Basin units as well as the area around Carbondale I have more experience with and would be more then willing to answer any questions you might have about those areas.

The original Vasque Sundowners(all leather ones, not the cloth/leather ones). They quit making them, but if you find a good used pair you can re-sole them. My dad has put several thousand miles on his pair over the last 23?+ years. I currently have some Danners that have served me well for the last 5 years. Biggest thing is to make sure you match your boot to what you are going to be doing, i.e. load, distance, terrain, weather, etc...

Joey, if NM dowsn't come through for you, send me a PM and I'll share some info with you for CO.

1st off, grats on the tag. 2nd, I've seen a 25-06 take 3 cow elk cleanly, but all shots were where they needed to be and the longest was just under 150 yards. The only mistakes you can make are to take a gun you are not confident in shooting, or not knowing/exceeding your limitations. (Pertaining to question at hand)

Unit 9 Bull early archery. still think G&F is playing mind tricks on me. Got a BP for Antelope

+1 on lrh's website. There is enough material there to keep you reading for a week straight yet have more questions then when you started. There are a few members on there who help train professionals and enthusists alike, and have answered questions for me in the past. I hope you enjoy your reading.

Between FR 302, 320, and the Grandview road there are over a dozen tanks that I located back in August while I had a deer tag in my pocket. Every single one had elk sign at them, and at three of the tanks we actually saw elk, mostly cows. Feel free to pm me and I'll try to point you to a little more specific area once I get home and can look back at my maps. -Jerry

I know I'm a newbie here, but I like hunting with others and have not met many since moving here to AZ, save for the web. I was planning on heading out on Sunday for either quail or waterfowl, though I am up for anything. Don't really care for what or where(within reason), I'd just like to get out and hunt. Let me know if you'd like to head out and we can throw something together. -Jerry

CouesArcher Neither of those guns is too much for mulies. I have taken a mule deer doe with my 300 win mag, never even thought twice about it. Something to keep in mind about the one you found though is that while having a muzzle brake will reduce felt recoil, the first time you fire it without earplugs will likely be the last. However, you can learn how to switch out barrels on the savages, set the headspacing, and presto, you have a new gun. Downside is having to rezero your scope after every change. At about $200 a barrel though, it's much easier to persuade your other half then buying a whole new rifle. No experience with the Howa so I won't comment either way. As for the chamberings, everyone else said it true. Apples and Oranges. Chevy or Ford. Dem or Rep. With the same weight bullet, a 7mm will have a higher bc and therefore be flatter shooting. But with the 300 you have a higher end weight range of bullets to choose from. Do you want a little a round that shoots a hair flatter or a hits a smidge harder? Another question to consider, is weather this will be a dedicated mulie gun, or will you use it for elk, bear antelope, coues, coyotes, etc.... That brings alot more into consideration.

Did as much as I could when I lived in CO, which wasn't much at all. Have yet to go since moving down here.

Grats on drawing that tag. Lived in CO for several years and I know how hard that is to draw for a Res, let alone a non-res. A wonderful bull, and ditto on the sign.