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Down south I have seen all kinds of BP agents and flying machines they use to protect our borders. From Cobra helicopters to unmanned drones, honestly, the UDA corridors have not been this unused in twenty years or so. IMO. I have also seen hundreds maybe thousands of illegals from the few that I wanted to help and hoped they got across to the most evil ones around. With that being said, I saw something a couple of weeks ago that got my curiosity way up. A four engine recon plane flying circles in an area. I know Cesna's and helicopters buzz the area and me whenever I am down there with great results, but this new tool must be killing their budget and have a reason more than catching the typical illegals looking for work or dropping a few dozen pounds of illegal substance. What do you think they are really after or did they have there budget increased to the point to afford the luxuries.

I did not know Urban Meyer hunted deer in Arizona. Congrats on the deer.

I was not going to respond anymore with some of the posters I would have to reduce syllable usage. However, a few points on contention. I believe Halo stands for "high altitude low opening" these guys were buzzing treetops. reference my brother was a recon marine in the late 90's and he would tell me of some his exploits. Secondly, we were to close to the border it wouldn't be donuts it would be Conchas. I do not think fear was ever mentioned as a matter of fact I believed I mentioned that this area is the safest it has been in twenty years. Immigration right now is in lull for the area. Border Patrol is doing a GREAT job. Also, if anyone does not question cost issues obviously still lives at home with their parents or has never had to answer to a boss/wife on return on investment or has a government job that has an unlimited budget and spending way to much tax money. One of the gentlemen on the site set me straight on what the plane was.

wow great buck

The military planes in general stay to the east of where this was. It was fixated on a spot or an area that is a pick up spot for illegals. It lapped the area three times that I noticed. With each pass it lowered in elevation. In thirty five years of going to this area I have (my family owns property there) yet to see this or a military aircraft do maneuvers in this part of the unit.

In 2007 or 08 when the Utah National Guard was deployed on our border. BP had use of their Cobra Helicopters. I am not making the point of my speculation to some of you. Which is what are they really looking for? I have been playing in the same piece of desert since 1982 when my dad and uncle gave me a 22 and said go shoot a rabbit. This is the first time I have seen a plane like this flying like that over this piece of land, hence the speculation.

I hunted one mule deer buck from Dec 2006 to January 2010 or so. I hunted from December to the end of January and either the first or second rifle season in October or November. I can not comment on all deer but this one in the desert flats would not leave a two mile area. He had his favorite locations depending on time of year but in general he would stay in that two square mile area. I could find him or evidence of him in those areas anytime of year.

They had use of Cobra helicopters in the past. My cousin lives on the Buenos Aires Refuge and when he was robbed, they were deployed, when immigration was at its peak (that was interesting after they caught the guys that robbed him). The area that used for manuevers is off of Arivaca RD. This was no where near that. The plane was hot lapping a particular spot at the edge of Reservation, ranch, and private land. BP does not have to say anything, I think I mentioned in the title this is speculation. In six days of hunting 20 or so miles walked, I saw one set of illegal tracks when previously I would see dozens. Is a plane of that magnitude warranted for one border crosser, unless they are looking for something else. If I had a Ford Raptor, I would be driving it like I stole too, these days with my taxes so high the only way I would be driving a Raptor is if I stole it .

thanks Kidso, you answered a couple of questions I had for years. If I can pick your predator brain a little more. when do bears, ballpark speaking, become active after their winter slumber and when do they start responding to calling? I am thinking of doing a back pack hunt in 27 for the spring otc season and want to get the timing right.

Kidso, where do you set up to call? Drainages, hill sides, water holes, ETC.

This one was glassed. you can see a very long ways after a fire. It was my longest shot ever that I connected, 190 yards. I have hunted above timberline a couple of times several years ago on the peaks. i did not see much above timberline. I did see a great deal at timberline and the journey up. The aspen forest is very old on the north facing slope, with carvings in there trunks from the 20's and 30's. The uber hikers scoff at you and turn up their noses a bit when they see what you are doing. I would park at the ski resort and walk up, the north side did not have as many animals on the journey up.

I took this guy right after the fire in what was an aspen/douglas fir meadow mix above eight thousand feet. i have hunted both mt baldy and the peaks, I have always seen alot of deer in those places

I just put an edge on a skinner knife and lost my attention for one second. Lesson learned the hard way, again

the broadhead hit everything. Jugular, wind pipe, both lungs, aorta, liver and stomach. clover leaf entrance

Thanks for all the props. I have been very fortunate to have taken 3 pope and young caliber deer since 2010 and 1 very mature buck with a rifle in that time. One of these days I will buy some good beer a few steaks and have an official scorer come over for dinner. I was asked on my hunting style today and it's simple use your senses, hunt all day, move where and when you will not be seen or heard and have confidence to the end that it will work. My taxidermist told me today that this buck was eight or nine years old. I forgot to mention that the day ended at my 92 year old grandmothers house with her making Chile con carne, beans and rice for dinner. My favorite picture

saw a 160 class buck in 24a with five does Monday evening and two batches of does with no bucks.

I was in unit one the last couple of days,right next to AZ 27. The temp was 9 with a twenty mph wind, good luck.

Some friends say they have seen elk behind the hospital in Globe

little guys are going a little crazy, up high.

The Previous dealer was not very good, imo.

I am in Phoenix at least once a week. Which one is closer to 16th street and i-10

Saw this guy yesterday. No does but a swollen neck, sorry not a coues.

I'm still archery elk hunting.

I'm sure you would much rather be in a peach or lime green brides maid dress talking to people you hardly know than out hunting. Sorry couldn't resist hehe

desire. i have forgotten everything else at one point or another, including my bow.