STOMP442

The better the app the better the results will be, meaning the more input options that you have and can account for the more the calculations can be fine tuned. Sounds to me like you need to just make your own chart and practice with it. Find a load and shoot your rifle at known distances and write the numbers down. Take note of the weather conditions and temps you are shooting in and verify out in the field at different elevations and angles and get to know your rifle.

If you can fit one but not the others you are probably only looking at adjusting your seating depth another .010" for fully functional feeding. I would look into adjusting seating depth to mag length and see what that does to your load. I am willing to bet accuracy stays the same and if it does change a simple powder adjustment will bring it back in. In my experience with the ELD line of bullets, they have not been overly sensitive to seating depth.

I recently purchased the Applied ballistics app after reading Bryan Litz book on modern advancements in long range shooting. He has a chapter in there about ballistics apps and programs and how he developed and tested his app multiple times and at multiple ranges all over the world in varying conditions. With his app he was able to shoot aout to 1500 yards with solutions giving him accurate predictions to within 1" most of the time out to 1000 yards and within 6" out to 1500 yards. I found that absolutely incredible and decided to buy right then and there. I gave it a good test this weekend on a few different rifles after gathering chrono data from the magneto speed. Each rifle was spot on out to 1000 yards, one shot hits on everything, well worth the money. Like Bryan says though crap in crap out, you must take the time to input all the variables correctly muzzle velocity, std dev, twist rate, scope height and atmospherics all need to be correct. The other thing I really like about it is the bullet library having his correct and verified BC numbers and drag models for lots of different bullets. It's pricey but if you want to use an app for shooting it's well worth the money and only costs a little more to go first class.

The wife and I called in a double last year and it was about 2pm in the afternoon.

Scope height is a big one lots of people miss. To determine scope height measure the scope bell diameter and divide that number by 2. Then measure the diameter of the barrel directly in front of the scope bell and divide that number by 2. You then measure the gap between the bottom of your scope bell and the top of the barrel and add all those measurements together to get your scope height. Like lance says it will more than likely be between 1.7 - 2". Personally, I don't use a phone or tablet when out hunting so I will use the app while at the range to give me a good estimation of what I need to dial for any given range and then fine tune from there. Generally the apps will put me within half a minute or a couple clicks at any given range but I keep a log of the temp and weather conditions and the actual MOA I have to dial for my particular rifle to hit center target. I then make a chart and tape it to my stock so that I have actual shot data to reference. Then I go out and practice at various locations and weather conditions and shoot at different angles to determine what my rifle is actually doing. I am sure I do things the hard way but the best app in the world is no substitute for practice.

I have done some load work on a 7mmLRM with the 195s in a 26" 9 twist barrel and they stabilized just fine and shot really well. Based on Bergers twist rate calculator, my elevation, atmospherics and a muzzle velocity of 2850fps we are getting a SG of 1.48 which is right on the edge of marginal and comfortable and BC is only being compromised by 1%. The 28 Nosler has a bit more boiler room and should be able to run the 195s just fine.

With a big case like the 28 I wouldn't go below a 180 and the 195 Berger would be where I started with some H1000.

I always recommend bedding. When done correctly it never hurts and almost always improves a rifles accuracy. When tuning up a rifle I never want to wonder if there was something I could have done to squeak out that extra little bit of accuracy. Bedding, floating the barrel and brass prep including sorting by case volume ensures your rifle is running at its peak potential. If you are one of those guys that think hitting a paper plate at 100 yards is good enough bedding probably won't gain you anything. But if you are trying to maximize your rifles potential then bedding is an important step.

Here is a link to a story about it in the local paper with a slideshow of some of the damage. http://www.eacourier.com/news/hail-rain-damage-homes-street/article_39d58ffc-8ea7-11e6-bc53-af5fc8fb53bf.html

There was still hail along the gutters and in some yards at 5:00pm yesterday afternoon. I live about 10 miles south of town and all we got was a nice steady rain for about an hour. We didn't get any of the wind or the hail at our place and I was shocked to see town Sunday morning. Safford and the Solomon area definitely took the brunt of it. Crazy Storm.

6mmBR is where I would start and stop cartridge wise. 29-30gr of powder will push 105 class bullets to 2800fps plus and barrel life that rivals the 308. Easy recoil and excellent ballistics.

How about a news outlet? or Security firm? They may be able to help.

I will look at what I got when I get off work this evening and let you know.

Whats your location? I have 8 or 10 factory take off stocks mostly the plastic ones but I think I have a wood one or two as well. Blind mag? Centerfeed or staggered feed?

Bell & Carlson is a nice stock with great features for the money and not so expensive you worry too much about it being damaged.

Leupold is a great choice. I am not a huge fan of the 34mm tube though as it really limits you on ring choices and the scopes are just so big. That's just like, my opinion though man.

Got to love an old Savage 99 in .250-3000. Sweet rifles. Remington still makes brass for it but they only do it in seasonal runs and like Jeff says its marked .250 Savage. I was surprised to see Hornady making it a few weeks ago when browsing online. I'm not a fan of Hornady brass but for the price and for an obscure cartridge you can't really go wrong.

PM Sent

That's one of the coolest pictures I think I have ever seen posted on this site. Beautiful Ram too!

#4 & #6 are SPF.

Cleaning out the closet this past week and posting stuff I don't need or have a use for anymore. I am located in Safford and buyer pays shipping. #1 Nikon Action Zoom Binoculars 10-22x50 like new in box with tri-pod adapter. $100.00 #2 Bushnell 12x50 Binoculars no box but like new. $40 #3 Standard hand guard for mid length M4 AR. Unknown make. $10 #4 Couple of 50 round MTM ammo cases with handles one green one blue for small rifle cartridges. .223 .204 and such. SPF. #5 Two antler mounting kits. One new in package and the other is opened but not used with all hardware. $5 each #6 New in box Vector 1/4" Capital letter & number Punch set. SPF.

Bullet weight and design has great effect on bullet length. The ABLR bullets are a heavy for caliber bullet with a secant ogive design, meaning the nose of the bullet is much longer and sleeker than a normal tangent ogive design such as the game king. Do the same measurement process with a sierra game king in your 7mm and you will end up much closer to the standard measurements.

6.5wsm will do anything the SAUM will. Built on a long action offers a lot of room for the good bullets and you can use the same slow burning powders in it too. 3100-3200 with 140s is easily done.

The 8.5-25x50 is an awesome scope and crystal clear at any power. I have the VX3 model fine duplex I bought about 2 years ago now and have it on my match gun. Tracks perfectly and I have had zero issues with it.

65gr Sierra Game King is a great bullet for just about everything and will tackle pig and deer no problem. I run the 69gr TMK in my .22-250 and they shoot beautifully. They thump Coyotes really good too but I haven't had a chance to shoot them at any game bigger yet. Willing to bet they would make a great bullet for hunting purposes with performance similar to the Amax. Sierra does not recommend them for hunting but they also state that they have a thicker jacket than the Blitz line of bullets. My guess is the new tip will more than likely provide reliable expansion every time where the standard Match King can be hit or miss sometimes and why they are not recommended for hunting.