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There's about 420 ft lbs more energy with a 140 out of the 6.5 at 1000 yards and about 31" less wind drift when comparing a 130 berger at 3000fps for the 270 and a 140 berger at 3100 out of the 264 win mag. At 500 yards the windage and elevation are much closer but energy is still greatly in favor of the 264.

Can you post a link I can't find anything on the game and fish site about leftovers at all.

No tag for me. Going to try and snag a left over.

Nice rifle and in a great caliber.

Its a post 64 so not control feed. No feeding issues at all though everything works fine. As far as hot loads go Im just starting to see slightly cratered primers at 59 grains. Easy bolt lift and extraction and primer pockets remain good and tight.

It was really good to start with. I didn't touch anything but the barrel.

I clean after every shot for the first 20 then after every 5 for the next 30 during break in. After that I don't clean until accuracy falls off which is a different number depending on caliber, barrel, bullet and powder used. As a rule I try to clean every 150 rounds or so.

Great rifles. I have the wood stock version and it will print half inch groups at 75 yards with CCI maxi mags. That is a jack rabbit bustin some buck right there.

But I seen a picture of the groups your getting with that rifle. I bet that brought a tear due to a different emotion.

I need at least 50 new unfired cases I don't care what brand. Can't seem to find any available at the usual sources. Thanks.

I need new unfired. I cross posted on a few forums and I got some on the way. Thanks anyways.

The Amax has performed for me very well out of my 6.5-284 but my other 6.5s don't seem to like them as well as the bergers. Brian litz had an article in the varmint hunter where he tested various hunting bullets and said the Amax was one of the slickest in the business but was one of only a few hornady bullets tested that was under estimated. I made a PDF copy of the article if anyone wants it shoot me an pm with an email address. Very interesting read.

You can probably find a good load with those primers just start low and work up. If you are not happy with the results you can try a different primer and see if that settles it down. I have always had really good results with 25-06 with magnum primers and 4831. Very similar case capacities and charge weights with the 6.5-284.

Agree H4831 is a great powder for the 6.5-284. Mine loves it as well with two accuracy nodes. One at 44 grains with a velocity of 2820 and one at 51.5 at 2980 fps. H4350 also works pretty good and put me over 3000fps with 52 grains but the accuracy wasn't quite as good. R17 gave great results at 100 yards with good ES & SDs but I couldn't get it to hold that accuracy past 300 yards. Still not sure why on that one. If I had to pick one powder for that cartridge though it would be H4831 great accuracy and good velocity.

Don't really need to. The 6.5-284 is really pretty mild I would make sure and get a stock that's comfortable and fits you well and call it good.

1:8 twist all the way. With a 1:8 you should have no problem shooting any bullet you want to even the light stuff should shoot fine. 140s in a 9 twist can be done but is better suited with higher velocity. My 6.5-06 Ackley has a 9 twist and runs the 140s fine but they are leaving the muzzle a touch over 3100 fps.

I wouldn't go any shorter than 26" but that's just me. I feel 26" provides all the length you need to get great performance out of the cartridge and is still manageable in the field.

Personally I wouldn't take a hot rod cartridge like the 6.5-284 and chop its nuts off along with the barrel. If you really want a 6.5 cartridge in a shorter barrel the 6.5x47, creedmoor or the 260 Remington would probably be better suited for that. Not sure if savage offers those calibers in that set up or not but that's my opinion.

Hey Jim good pick up on the 6.5-284, thats a great caliber. I have had really good results using the Bergers on game in my other 6.5s but my 6.5-284 seems to be a little picky on bullets and really loves the 140 Amax over any of them. Its what I used last year to make that long shot on that little coues and it perfomed really well. I got full penetration even past 1000 yards leaving about a quarter sized exit on the off side so it did expand and not simply poke straight through.

Oh really. Well last I checked the OP started this thread based on the merrits of the .260 as a hunting cartrige. Also, I have plenty of experience in shooting, not only in hunting but match shooting as well and probably put 10 times as much lead down range in any given month than most people on this site. My statements are based in fact as well and perhaps 308Nut is not the only guy on this site with extensive shooting time or knowldge. You should think before you type.

The 6x45 is a fine cartridge but only if you are going to shoot bullets heavier than 70 grains to truely get the most out of the 6mm platform. I say that because a .223 will shoot up to a 70 grain bullet just fine and it having a smaller diameter and longer length will have a higher B.C than any of the 6mms of the same weight. Higher B.C. translates into less windage and more retained energy at longer ranges. If you just want something different I say go for it nothing wrong with that but as far as performance goes your really not going to gain much if anything over the 223 if you are going to be using the light bullets. That being said the cartrige I would choose for a custom AR build would be the 6.5 grendel. Excellent bullet selections and a definite improvement over the .223 platform and absolutely deadly on coues out to 500 yards with the 123 Amax.

Every one of my savages prefers a 25 thou jump using the Bergers. In fact I only had one rifle ever that preferred them touching the lands.

Im so absolute because physics doesn't lie. I have both a 308 and a .30-06 as well as a bunch of 6.5s including a .260 Remington that can and does out shoot both of the 30s in windage and trajectory until the 200 grain bullets are used and even then they are so close why bother with the added powder usage and increased recoil for the same end result. As far as the barrel ware argument goes we are talking about hunting rifles. The barrel life of any of these cartridges will last longer than most hunters when used in actual hunting scenarios by that I mean normal sight in, practice and actual hunting use.

Oh I have. Never said the 260 would out perform the 300 only that it can duplicate the trajectory with 20 grains less powder. I know there are some great heavy 30 cal pills out there but let's be honest, 9 out of 10 hunters using the 308 or 06 are topping out at 180 grains because at that point it makes more sense to jump up to the 300s for the added horsepower and case capacity for the heavies. The fact that the 06 needs to push a 200 grain bullet to even compete with the 260s ballistic performance proves my point on just how good of a cartridge it is. Yeah the 06 will have more energy at long range but not a whole lot more at the cost of much more recoil and powder usage. The 155s are not even in the same ballpark in any category.

Great rifles for the money with lots of aftermarket parts and accessories if you ever decide to customize a bit in the future. I think you will be very happy with the rifle and the caliber choice.