twigsnapper

The argument could be made that offering tags for $5 per chance instead of $13 is more supportive of the North American Model.

My point was that rich guys who want to buy a tag can go to Mexico and hunt desert sheep for 40-50,000, they dont have to buy the higher priced $200,000+ auction tags in AZ or wait on the draw. And that many book rams come from Mexico, not just AZ. People keep making the argument that the current education funding is all about getting tags for their rich clients but the reality is there are tags all over the place for various species that can be bought. I think we are often too Arizona-centric in our thinking.

Also, both the Millermatic and the Lincoln 130 or 135 can do both gas and flux, spend the money and get him a gas setup, much better to work with as others have already stated

For household projects the 120v welders work just fine. The Millermatic 135 is a great option. It is a little more forgiving if you dont have it set right. The Lincoln of the similar size is good too but it doesnt have the same level of settings as the Miller. One main advantage the Lincoln has over the Miller is Home Depot carries tips and nozzles for the Lincoln where you usually have to go to a welding shop to get stuff for the Miller products. I have used both quite a bit and they all get the job done. You also might look at Weldmark, they are made by Miller but a little less expensive, the gun even has Miller on the side.

Trade pending....

Bought this a couple years ago, used on one hunt in Oct. has a little dirt on outside but basically new. Only farted in it a couple times. $350 or trade for something of similar value. Cold weather version comes with pillow. Text or pm Andy 602-881-0610

Here is one to support GreyGhost

Back to the original purpose of this post, I agree, send the commissioners a "thanks" for the outcome of the trail cam rule. They need to hear appreciation when warranted.....

Mexico = 70 AZ = 77 Mexico - All purchased AZ - At most 8 were purchased, 69-70 were drawn

There are plenty of landowner tags around north america that are just as good as an average sheep tag or a trophy elk tag though, and the guys that want them can buy them regularly. My point is, what are you doing to get on the committee??

"There isn’t a landowner tag on earth as good as an Arizona statewide tag Andy and you know it." You are 100% correct. But the current proposal isn't for state wide tags and 365 day seasons. You are comparing apples and watermelons.

The bushmaster has me interested... can you text me a few pics please? 602-881-0610

How many of you have submitted your name to all 5 commissioners to be on the committee? I hope all. The committee needs to be made up of a diverse group, but I get the feeling none of the folks on this forum that continue to criticize will step up and be a part of the solution(except Flatlander and SirRoyl). I keep hearing about how the rich want the tags but the reality is there are plenty of land owner tags around the country, Canada and Mexico where they can go kill 200" muleys and 380-400" bulls. Does AZ offer some great hunting? Yes, but get real, these guys can buy $60,000 stone sheep hunts and $50,000 Desert sheep hunts all day long. Don't fool yourself into thinking a December coues tag or a Sept bull hunt has that much value to a guy who can buy anything he wants. Although these tags have tremendous value to you and me as average fellas, the reality is the rich see things much different that you or I. Even the critics on this forum supported forming the committee, now get involved or please stop crying wolf....

Still available

Its the all season bag https://butlerbags.us/product/all-season-sleeping-bag/ Interested in guns, outdoorsmans tripod, rhino gps, kodiak tent.... other hunting stuff...

This is from the website Size: 41″X84″ (approx. sleeping area) Comfort Zone: -20 to +65 degrees. Weight: approx. 22 lbs. Filler: Hollofil 808 Outer: 12.5 ounce marine grade, water repellent canvas

Its pretty light, maybe 1000 lbs empty? Just a guess...

Saturday bump

Have you or leaders of other critter groups had any discussions regarding booths at an exspo type event that Pete C. would like to model like the one in Utah?Basically asking if supporters from your groups see a gain from these events. Our publicity and promotions chair would handle that but to my knowledge we have not had any discussions about it. If an event like that took place I would imagine the Sheep Society would want to have a presence. We try to be at as many of those types of events as we can to get our name out there and meet as many folks as we can. At our last meeting we discussed next years schedule and the only new event was a Grand Canyon 50 year celebration. Other than that its business as usual, G&F expo, Sheep Show, ISE....

I would support a stamp as long as the funds have to be spent on education and not on research or equipment. selfishly, I would rather have a chance on a tag for my $5 than a stamp... Either way I am on board with putting a plan in place to combat the anti hunters.

Where did this info come from? CAPAZ is backdoor promising that if they get tags, their donors will donate money directly to CAPAZ,

Please provide a specific example. Who did you ask? What was the question? What was the answer? This info is important for those still gathering facts and information before the June 8th meeting...

Would trade for 65mm stx objective or other high end binos or spotter....