Flatlander

Figure out the tag first, then get a guide or find a goat yourself, that's the fun part. You can kill good bucks in most units. Unfortunately 21 doesn't guarantee you much. Good luck, make it a blast! PM me if you want some ideas on units you have a good chance at. And just for kicks and giggles here is my 2014 smoke pole buck, 88 4/8" unofficially. It was a sometimes overlooked unit, probably got more attention last year than it needed.

Well today I will put another pig tag on the wall instead of around a pig. Saw some sweet new country down south but couldn't find one pig to show for it. I have a theory about my curse, I am just not sure how to break it. Anybody know how much the commissioner's tag goes for?

I think you will busy helping your kid!

One more shot at it this weekend. Loading up my midgets and heading down south. Good luck to the other Ham hunters.

Correct

Ate plenty of mine. I could have used a tapeworm or two though.

I sent this screen shot to my buddy who I applied with. We have a combined 14 pts. I think I gave him a heart attack, should I let him off the hook and let him know that its a joke?

The applicant pool for those hunts has grown steadily since they were introduced a few years ago. Some of the hunts are easier than others, but for locals with time, they can be a great opportunity. I wouldn't mind doing one, but when I do it will be one with 25 tags not 400 and it won't be in canyon country. Anyway, this time of year is tough, waiting on draw results, tax return and my annual bonus all to come through about the same time. If I draw a tag it will be tough to hang on to any of that $. Keep posting guys, this is the time of year whens dreams are alive . . .

6-7:30 Monday. Got it.

I think you forgot the 3rd S

^^^^ Listen to this guy.

Sick gun

Stud buck

Good Luck to you guys, I will drop off a pic to the "brag board" later this week. I am almost hoping I do not get drawn, I want to hunt elk in July and try to get an otc bull in velvet. Here are a couple of bucks I passed up when I thought I was a trophy hunter (I'm dumb) 15 - 18 yards 100_2488.JPG 36 yards 100_2656.JPG Talk to Dustin. Two years ago him and his brother helped another member on here kill one on the river in July.

I had to tell him. He was ready to march down and fight game and fish

I got a cake when I earned my eagle.

Oh good. This will make it really easy to wait for draw results.

You have now shown your ignorance. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.

The guy w/20 pts was a NR and there is only 1 NR tag available for that hunt. So the next two tags went to residents w/the most pts.

I am in Gilbert and will take two. I can meet at BPS as well but can't do Sunday's or Wednesdays. Let me know how you want to handle it.

Dustin and I just applied for elk together, I hope some of your good Mojo rubs off on the Desert Country Archery Crew. I'd really like to have a tag.

You're golden. Congrats on your elk tag and more importantly congrats on your recovery. Prayers it continues without interruption.

I bet you come unglued when someone messes up your order too. It's got to be exhausting being that worked up over the small stuff.

I don't think its that sad. Going out of state for antelope is a good option and quality hunts can be had. But if you only want to hunt GIANT bulls in the smack dab middle of the rut, with a rifle, there are not many options much better than AZ. Factor in the relative ease of the country that our elk live in compared to other states, and this hunt is a dream. For a similar experience guys could spend thousands to go hunt WMAT, or private ground in NM. Most of the out of state options are not much better than hunting tags you can get every year in AZ. For example; November rifle bull hunts require anywhere from 3-8 bonus points to draw in AZ. If you have a loyalty point and hunter ed point, you could have a rifle bull tag every other year. These November bull hunts are equally as good and sometimes better than general tags in other states. When you start looking at limited entry tags in other states, the draw odds are not much better. In reality I would compare many of our limited opp hunts to general seasons in other states. One of the biggest problems I see with people here in AZ is that they see what other people are doing, and just want to do the same thing. Someone draws a early rifle tag with 3 bonus points, tells everyone about it and the next thing you know, 15 more people are joining the party hoping for their lottery ticket. Antelope is a bit of a different story, with the number of people in this state, we just can't compete with NM and Wyoming. If you compare our odds with states like UT and NV, I would say you get a much better hunt out of a draw situation that isn't much different. I would prefer to see a switch in philosophy and have more archery tags offered and fewer rifle tags. But for many in AZ they feel like they waited all this time they can't just give up and use a bow. They want to hunt with a gun, so that makes success near 100%. If people were looking for the experience more and killing a giant less, we could have far more archer's out there, increase the number of days each guy gets in the field, therefore enhancing the experience, and issue more tags at the same time. But AZ hunter's want their early bull tags and rifle goat tags, so let them wait. There is nowhere else in the country they can get the hunt they are looking for.

I assume this means 11 total Bonus points for the group and not an average of 11. If this is the case 20%. If you have an average of 11 pts go apply for an archery bull tag. 9% or you could go one unit west for a bump to 12% 4%, 7% 4%, 4% 11%, 15% Probably 1%, this unit has crept a point pretty much every year. At 18 pts you have some options, but Unit 1 isn't really a high probability one. I would say you are about 50/50 on the rifle hunt and 100% on the archery. 2%, 10% Right now 19 bp will put him in the bonus pass and last year for the 27 hunt early rifle hunt there were no 20 BP applicants, so he's got a chance at tags before the quota are met already. Stickit out another year or two and it should happen. On a year when the ML tag rolls around that will get even better. 7%, 10%, 6% 8% 9% 40%