Flatlander

I'm not sure what is making me breath harder that buck or addicted's avatar pic. Congrats on a real beauty.

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I did it at 6:30 last night without any issue. Seems like that should have been a peak time. I'm wondering if it's an issue relates to specific browsers or people's networks.

Man lots of good dudes here who have served our nation. Props to all of you. If it's any help I have a coworker who is a full bird colonel in the Army Reserves. If your boy wants to talk to him I am sure he would be glad to take the time.

Hmmm, am I the only one who was thinking Pendelton, OR? I suppose it makes sense that he would be stationed at CAMP Pendelton. Good luck on your hunt, and here is a hint, if Edge is offering, I would be accepting.

Congrats and good job. I can hardly wait for my boys to get there.

That was sweet. Props to your boy, it would have been tough to keep cool in that situation.

He said he is going into the wilderness. Queen valley and peralta aren't in the wilderness. If he was to hike in to the wilderness from there, he would be in deer country. South of Tucson brings a new set of considerations to the table for somebody who is not familiar with the border. No one even mentioned 37b, and since he specifically mentioned coues in the wilderness I don't think you have anything to worry about. No need to try and protect your spots from this non-scouter.

You're wrong. It changed. And AZ wilderness, licenses bought online have always been effective the date of purchase, licenses bought via permit application were not effective until the date of the draw. And every time something changes OMG azgfd is trying to screw everyone, actually no. If you would have attended ANY of their public input sessions, you would have known that they were actually trying to save people $. It's not worth rehashing here. People believe what they want to believe.

Wow, talk about zombie thread

Sometimes I feel bad for AZGFD. So many lamp lovers out there, so little time to personally explain every detail of the regs to each one personally.

Wow.

If I was doing this hunt it would be in 24B, but that's because I know the unit well. There are quite a few good wilderness opportunities in this state. Take a sweater, January can be a tit bit nipply out there.

Awesome velvet buck! Lucky kid right there, he must have a good dad.

Once the hunt is closed he can't legally take the bull, whether he can prove he shot it or not. He knows that, he just doesn't care. Nor would I. There is nothing illegal about telling someone where a bull is located. If he picks it up illegally, that's his problem. I really don't see why people are getting bent out of shape about this. Maybe everyone's. Little testy cause they are stuck working instead of hunting like me.

The BC of 30 cals is superior to the .270's. But if I was looking at other cals the .264 win mag would make the list as a compromise.

Love it! That buck is a lot bigger than my first. Congratulations!

Dude 7.3, that beast has a lot of life in it yet, and they have gotten hard to find.

So why are all you guys holding out on the name?

Great bull. Congrats.

Good read. Congrats.

I hate this post. I especially hate the part where you said "again". I hope you shoot a spike. Good Luck Be sure to post some pics.

Ok, I have been trying not to hyper-ventilate all week long and I think I am about to have an anxiety attack. Last week I slipped out to Rio Salado for some practice with the muzzleloader in preparation for my upcoming antelope hunt. I had a good group at 100 yds and moved out to 200 and was having trouble getting the hold points for my Leupold Ultimate Slam to line up at that range so I decided to re zero with a 150 grain load instead of the 100 grains I had been shooting. I went through the normal process and after a few shots I lost the ability to shoot any kind of group. I was getting frustrated and decided to hang it up for the day, and come back and work on it when I was fresh. Fast forward one week to this morning. I was out at Rio Salado thinking positive thoughts aout how I was going to be able to get dialed in and be in good shape. I brought lots of powder and sabot's and was ready for the long haul. I started at 100 yards, the first shot was 6 inches high of the X. The barrel was clean and I have learned that a fouling shot is a must with my CVA Magbolt 150. Second shot was 6 inches right of the X. I never hit the paper again at 100 yds. I was frustarted and worried that might be the problem, I switched over to my .300 win mag and shot a 1-1/2" group with very little effort. So I moved it into 25 yards. First shot was right 6"+, second shot was low and left, third shot was right, fourth shot was high, fifth shot was low. There was literally 0 pattern and after 2-1/2 hours I put the ML away and took out my frustration on the 300 yd plate with my Win Mag. I never missed. The muzzleloader I am shooting has always been a tack driver and shot well with these same loads earlier in the summer. Today was the third time I shot this load. I think that it must be a problem with the bases/rings/scope due to the complete randomness of the shots, could I be wrong? It doesn't seem like anything in the load could have that drastic of an effect could it? This is my second year muzzleloader hunting, I am self taught and almost everything I have learned has been from youtube, so if any of you guys who have been doing it longer have good advice I am all ears. Here is my load: 3 - 50 gr Triple 7 Pellets Hornady 250 grain SST Sabot Winchester 209 shotshell primers Rifle: CVA MAgbolt 150 I run a dry swab after every shot, a wet swab with a water soluble solvent every third shot or so, and clean with a copper brush every 10 shots. I have never cleaned the breach because this model is a giant pain in the butt to get the bolt out of. I do not have any problems with primers feeding in to the breech. My plan was to soak it with a solvent after the hunt and work to get the breech out and cleaned up. I have had an occasional hang fire that requires a second primer, or sometimes there is a slight hangfire and then ignition with significantly reduced recoil and less smoke, leading me to believe that perhaps not all the powder is burning. This is very rare and I would say in 100 or so round is have shot this summer I have had maybe two hangfires that required a second primer and two delayed ignition type events. Even though I do think I need to change primers, I have a hard time believing that could be leading to the amount of incosistency I am seeing even at close range. I changed scopes this summer after my cheap o Simmons 2x failed during my HAM hunt (reticle broke loose). I am now shooting a Leupold Ultimate Slam SABR. I would be very surprised if the problem was in the scope itself, instead I am more inclined to believe it is a rings and bases issue. My thoughts are to have it remounted (I did it the first time), get some new primers and give it another run next Saturday. But with only 3 weeks until my hunt and some desperately needed scouting still on the agenda I am getting very short on time. Obviously if I don't get the problem corrected I can axe the scouting and work on the gun, because without that I have nothing. I do not have another muzzleloader nor do I have access to another so I am in a bit of a bad spot. Even if I scrapped the whole rig and bought a new gun it doesn't leave a lot of time for getting dialed in. Ok, sorry for the LONG thread, I am starting to freak out a little bit. 150 grains

What were you hoping to accomplish with that comment??? Congrats to the hunter on a great bull. That smile says it all. Looks like some little ones in two too, love seeing the kids involved.

That second to last bull is a beast. Great bulls, color me jealous.