Flatlander

I would certainly not use ID as a model for wildlife management. Point restrictions really have not proven effective in those areas. I like the idea of trying to target the harvest but point restrictions aren't really the answer. You just end up encouraging bad genetics.

OTC First come first serve start Monday. Lots of tags left.

What kind of cam are you using for that first set up? The range on that thing is very impressive.

If Game and Fish is proposing the tags already, how would this obliterate our herd? According to their survey data the herd sustains those tags and the associated harvest. This just allows the AZGFD to maximize the use of their resources.

I would love to see this happen with leftover deer tags. I have been chomping at the bit for an excuse to go down south.

I think that long haired black bear would be my sole purpose in life. If the date and time is right you may have yourself a spot there.

Dang that was a steal.

I think Italy beat them. US beat N. Korea in the semis. Glad to see an AZ boy with a hunting background representing us. (And his dad is a heck of a taxidermist)

I have done that a couple of times. Not a lot of fun.

Hunted 31 Oct WT a couple of years ago and we went into Aravaipa from the West side. Saw one nice ram during the 2 days we were in there. A couple of years ago a ram was killed in there that went high 180's.

I have always had a thing for big blondes . . .

If none of your hunt choices are available they do not cash your check so there is no "app fee". I believe you can put the full 5 choices on your app.

You will know before walk-ins are available whether you were drawn or not. You can usually call like Wednesday and they will know whether you were drawn,

Jim - Congrats on the tag. I have been holding out for that tag since helping out on the early rifle hunt a few years back. Let us know how you do.

I have shot all 4 of my elk with a 270. All but one were with 150 Grand Grand Slams, the other was with Core-Lokt. All of them died (but the GS was definitely more devastating).

I was 16 not 10. I was shooting 60 lbs but a 60 lb bow in 1998 was shooting like 240 fps, nothing compared to today's bows. Still after those two experiences I switched to fixed blades and haven't ever looked back.

I hate to say this for fear of getting ripped but I did have some concerns with the Sonorans after my hunts. I actually lost elk on both hunts, both were cows. The first one was due to a bad shot, I hit her in the shoulder and only got about 3 inches of penetration. My fault, no doubt about it. The second shot was a little high but still what I would consider in the vitals. I only got about 5-6 inches of penetration and the arrow came back out. Unfortunately we ran out of blood in a very short distance and sere never able to recover the animal. I was only 16 at the time with a fairly short draw length and I was shooting a bow with below average KE. I think that perhaps with my setup i was just not producing enough KE to open the broadhead and get good penetration. Like I said, I don't want to get blown up here, I am just pointing out a situation where I believe this BH may not be the best choice, and that would be in bows with low end KE.

. . . your back up bow? I pulled out my 00 PSE Durango tonight and flung an arrow, and man, I don't know how I shot that thing for all those years. Do you guys tune your old bow up every year just in case?

Wasn't this broadhead originally called something else, Sonoran maybe? I remember using these on my first two elk hunts when I was a kid, would have been 98-99.

Welcome to the site Adam. It has been a lot of years since I shot everyday, but for the last week it has been 15 or more arrows everyday, and its finally starting to show. Licks are built, cameras are set, just need to get some pictures of big bucks now. I haven't archery deer hunted AZ very much over the last 10 years. Can't wait to get out there and fling some sticks.

The only elk hunting I will be doing will be helping out in 23 this Nov. Have a buddy with an archery tag and a buddy with the late rifle.

Dan - We may be seeing each other around this year (maybe we have in the past). Let me know what hunt you draw. I was hit for 69.50 today.

Yes

I got hit for 2 deer tags. Buddy was hit as well. Maybe this means I drew my first choice. No charge for sheep yet, probably won't be for another 20 years or so.

Hit for 2 deer tags. Guess I must have drawn a BP for sheep.