Flatlander

Definitely a grind! Congrats on an exceptional experience!

The rock and post are sweet

Is that top left buck your archery buck from this year? Never noticed the double throat patch before.

Don’t overlook that steel joist lead times are >12 months right now. With more and more delays coming by the day.

I have a Honda pioneer 1000-5. I wanted seating for 5 but also bed space. This works good because the overall length is only about 10’6”. For us, we have 3 or less people 75% of the time so the jump seats are only for family joy riding. For our uses going 5 mph down steep rocky trails is a lot more important than going 80 mph in a sandy wash bottom. Having a real transmission, selectable 4wd and lockers is more important than turbos and 30” of travel. But that’s our needs.

This is your year... I want to be on that mountain with you!

Anybody using Cooper Discoverer ST MAXX tires on a half ton? I tow a lot and am generally hard on tires. I currently have Nitto Terragrappler G2. I am satisfied and got 50k out of them. I would love to hear everyone’s experience with durability, traction and wear on the cooper’s.

What’s the length? And which outsert?

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Inevitably, some applicants will never get a tag so it’s not an either or scenario. And I don’t see the additional “deservedness” of one applicant having applied for one more year being commensurate with the difference in draw odds between max and one-off max. I know that it’s shitty to think that some people who have waited 40 years may never get to hunt. I would love it if we all could be guaranteed that possibility. But I also think it is equally as shitty for someone who is 25 today to apply for the next 60 years and never get to hunt, which absolutely will happen. There is no magic bullet. My opinion certainly will not be popular with those who have max or near max points, but it also isn’t only to benefit “kids and newbies”. It’s just my opinion, I don’t write any policies or rules so no need for anyone to get too bunched up over it.

Probably should have included trailer chains.

So we should prioritize tags for people who got to hunt when Kaibab any deer tags were OTC and so were elk tags? I love my grandpa but...

I used a scouting package one time. It worked out but I am not sure I would do it again. Honestly, you could just start hiking and scouting right now. Find places 1-2 miles from a road to glass from.

Yeah man, like I said, I don’t need you to agree with me and clearly you don’t know what I am saying so let’s just call it good.

Better odds compared to now. But thanks for trying to follow. I have an ID lifetime license. Apply there when I want to hunt, when I don’t want to I don’t have to buy a stupid point for that adds little value. Still have resident odds. Definitely worth it.

I don’t need you to agree with me. I don't like the idea of creating an illusion that if people just put in long enough they will somehow earn a tag. If we just went random then a small portion of applicants would have lower odds and many more would have better odds. There would be no more “playing the point game” or building points for non-hunters so you could apply as a party. I am sick of all the barriers and games and “strategy articles”. It just advances the commercialization of hunting. I just don’t love it.

If you start applying for a strip tag today with a Hunter's Ed bonus point how many years of "Doing your time" would it take to get a tag?

Do you own a tripod and decent optics? Can you shoot 400 yds effectively? Can you breakdown an elk on your own and carry a backpack weighing 80 lbs 2-3 miles 5-6 times... or conversely do you have a friend or 3 who are willing to show up and help pack 2-3 miles? In terms of the hunt... the unit isn’t what it used to be. But there are still elk in almost all of it. In that unit there aren’t a ton of places to backpack or go real deep. But there is rough country and that’s where you will find the bulls that time of year. Good luck, keep us posted.

When buying points you just have to know and accept that the game will change over time. They all do. I’d love it if we could just trash the whole point system and make it all random. The point gag is just a way for G&F departments to hook you into buying a license every year even though you won’t ever use it.

Great seller, easy to deal with and not trying to gouge people for desirable ammo. Highly recommend. Thanks for meeting up.

A lot of things to consider. Many of which have been touched on. 1. The advantage of hunting mostly unpressured elk on opening day is very attractive and often is the paramount advantage on the first hunt of a season for a species. Advantage first week. 2. Rut activity. My experience is that the closer you get to Sept 28 the better the rutting. For whatever reason that’s just the date that seems to be near the peak most of the years I have hunted elk. Advantage second week. 3. Pressure. It’s not as true as it used to be but there is still inherently more people hunting the first week than the second just due to attrition and tags being filled. Advantage second week. 4. Moon phase. This year the full moon is on 9/20. My experience has been that elk may increase rutting activity during a full moon but that a lot of that occurs at night. Especially with the full moon coming near the end of September I would expect a lot of bugling during the dark. This is generally a disadvantage, but can be used to locate elk by bugling and spotlighting in the dark and then hunting them the next day. But it’s likely that there will be less day time rutting. Advantage first week. D. Weather. If it’s dry and still hot it’s likely the rut will suck any away. But sitting water may be very effective early in the hunt. As things cool off the elk may be less predictable on water. Advantage first week. Unit 7E doesn’t have the highest elk densities and therefore less reliable rutting activity. If circumstances allow, it might be good if you can go prepared for the first week and if it’s a bust (too hot, too many people, no rut, etc.) pull the plug and come back later. If not, then there are advantages and disadvantages either way. Best of luck and let us know what you decide.

That’s a neat design you did with the magazines 😎 If you’re from Joe City you probably know my buddy TC. Good price on a good gun, bet it goes fast. I really like mine.

We will definitely pray for you. I wish I had better words, but if you need anything don’t hesitate to make the call. 4802664811

I’ll take the accubond.

Man this was an awesome thread. Miss these days.