Flatlander

A prayer answered.

So then should the adults who lead a family to Water Wheel for a swim be charged similarly (this was also in Gila County)? There are signs warning about flash floods: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2017/07/16/payson-flash-flood-results-four-deaths/482805001/ How about the family who let another family stay in their cabin that didn't have a carbon monoxide detector? https://www.azfamily.com/news/family-of-found-dead-in-cabin-from-possible-carbon-monoxide/article_eba36f01-89ff-5723-9251-a3e44c1b744a.html To be clear here, I don't hold the county responsible for this and I doubt the family does either. But I do suspect the motives of the county in moving these charges forward. It was pretty dang clear that GCSO was enjoying their day in the sun while the search went on. It was also they held strong animosity for the family and volunteers who showed up to help they refused to even coordinate with the civilian effort which had far more man power and significant resources. And, ironically enough, it was the volunteers who found all 3 bodies. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

Sure. How about if every county in America just decides social distancing is great and they tell everyone they are only allowed to go to work and the grocery store for the rest of forever. That would be great protection, right? Wouldn’t that prevent a lot of traffic deaths? And reduce annual flu deaths? So let’s just post a sign that says if you leave your house you are endangering your family, and if you leave, if anything happens we will charge you with manslaughter.

They post those stupid “barricades” every time there is water in that wash, knowing full dang well that people have to cross there. heck the barricade is nothing more than a portable sign they put on the road. The water was calf deep on Saturday but it was supposedly closed and all 60 homeowners who live over there were supposed to drive clear to the Young road and back to get in and out of their homes. Because of calf deep water. So pretending that they had all this warning and should have known better because of a dang sign is dumb. He should have known better cause he is a native Arizonan and has spent a lot of time in Tonto Basin. But Gila County pretending that they were protecting anybody with their fake barricades is ridiculous. To say you are going to put someone away for decades because of that is crap.

I, along with about 20 other vehicles, drove around those barricades and made that crossing yesterday. Like it or not, that’s a way of life for people who live there. My 10 year old was with me. I dare the camera hungry jackasses at Gila County to come charge me. They won’t, because there is no media opportunity in it for them. I hope the Rawlings and Sherwoods sue the heck out of them.

What’s that supposed to mean?

Post em up. I need new reading.

Fixed it for you

The puzzle rock buck was a magazine quality write up and one of the first threads I ever read on here. “Show me the kids” still rocks today. The live action post of Fred’s strip hunt was amazing. Coach had an awesome strip post. I am pretty proud of my documented antelope hunt. All the drama threads listed above... I could live without them.

I care. Does that prove your point?

I know. That’s why I said that.

There were like 20 people in the pics with that bull. That would be a tough secret to keep.

I learned at a young age from the first guide I ever knew personally that almost all the bragging, chest thumping, braggarts bend the rules to their advantage. When I saw someone poach for the first time in my life Marc Lopeman was filming for him. So later when I saw members of that same group claim to have made an “honest mistake” I learned the routine. The fact of the matter is it’s much more rampant in the industry than anyone would like to admit. I just assume most of the “pro’s” have been involved with something in their career. This doesn’t surprise me at all and I don’t know why anybody would feel the need to defend A3. There has been plenty of drama over the years. So Matt, what’s your point, that your brother and Jed are cut from the same cloth? Cool. It’s stupid how getting to brag about stuff takes over people’s minds. It makes hunting lame. But whatever, it happens in every sport, hobby, industry. It’s not right but it can’t be avoided either.

I have a poaching conviction. Can I be a big-time outfitter?

The irony here is hard to overlook. For the record, I wish poaching was punished with jail time, for everyone.

Brass or steel cased?

I volunteer to be one of the 7 new guys.

Does it have rear sites?

I am wondering how many people have changed their hunting plans this year in some way because of the Covid 19 issues. I know this effects people a lot of different ways and I am just curious have people had to cancel trips or hold off on applying out of state? I am trying to figure out a new plan for this year after my non-hunting plans got canceled.

Any body decide not to apply for their out of state hunts?

Fixed it for you

I don’t blame them for locking out you filthy white dudes. You see how this thing is blowing up everywhere else?

Camper Similar to Unit 1. Roads vary from basically paved to 4X4 only. Yes. But on those early hunts you can hit the pines too, and there are more elk in the pines.

What the heck do I have to do with this?

I dont even know who you are