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    46 minutes ago, trphyhntr said:

     @Flatlander are you talking about your old lady cheering for show low kids? Everyone goes to show low now. My FB feed is filled up with ex classmates saying go cougars on Friday nights, it’s terrible. I hope their kids gets smashed 
     

    but I’d still rather have show low win the championship than some valley school. But not round valley. 

    No, my old lady would never. But she all of a sudden is excited about Snowflake winning B2B

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    1 minute ago, WHT_MTNMAN said:

    I wont speak for trphyhntr but this mountain is pretty close over all. Especially after high school. It is sure fun to see and be a part of our (any) rural public schools dominating over private "valley" schools. Yeah we take pride in where we are from. 

     

    I get it. Ashley gets excited about this too. Its kind of weird to me because I will forever despise Highland High School and I will never celebrate them winning a championship. I am sometimes happy for individuals that I know having success there, despite their affiliation with my rival.

    That being said, I am a Fitzmagic fan, since we grew up playing against each other. Plus its cool to be able to say I sacked an NFL QB. Not a cheapo group sack either, I ran him down from behind on a bootleg. Probably the most athletic achievement of my life. Which is why I washed out in HS.

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    3 hours ago, Crazymonkey said:

    Just an update I've spoke with axis works and they should be able to do the work .I still need to get the gun over to them to have a look for sure but I'm down a car this week hopefully I get my truck back thurs or Friday so ill bring it in for them to have a look on Monday and see what the say.

    Where is the gun at? I need to run down to AW this week or next anyway.

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    51 minutes ago, 654321 said:

    The only way mandatory reporting is any more accurate then the way they do it now is if you have to physically check in the animal. Does the department still send out a survey card to bear, lion and sheep hunters? If so I wonder how well the data lines up since those hunts are mandatory reporting. I’m sure the department has a pretty good pile of data on the Kaibab hunts, some are mandatory reporting and others aren’t. 

    This is absurd. Having 3X as much data will certainly provide more reliable statistical information because the margin of error is much reduced.  The only way it wouldn’t is if more people lied on their survey than already do not return a survey. The probability of which makes it statistically irrelevant.

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    12 minutes ago, trophyseeker said:

    And the end results will be basically the same as the ones now being gathered using voluntary reporting & statistical analysis. 🙄

    Maybe, maybe not. Time will tell how accurate their extrapolations from the source data was. But my basic level of statistical training tells me that the more data points we start with the lower the margin of error and thus the more reliable the data is. 

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    1 hour ago, CouesFanatic said:

    Good question. Anyone know? I’m assuming it will be an estimated number of archery harvest allowed per unit and changed each year from the previous years numbers. 

    It doesn’t make sense to have some data based on mandatory reporting and some not. My guess is that mandatory reporting will come to all species soon.

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    11 hours ago, AZAV8ER said:

    Interesting topic. So a Guide that sounds like he is for the most part a decent sort flubbed some paper work by accident, or because other motives? The FS fines him and the AZGFD hammers him hard. Why a harsh punishment for failing to report a couple of hunters? Was the commission trying to crack down on under reporting? Were some commission members motivated against Steve? Seems like a punishment fit for guiding unlicensed, taking out hunters without proper permits/licenses or guiding hunters outside their permitted unit.  Why did the commission hit him so hard ???

     

    I don’t think the commission was as worried about possible forgetfulness as they are about guides intentionally avoiding the FS permit process. Which is important. If it’s true he had done this before, was warned and then did it again (and plastered it all over the internet) as the regulating agency AZGF is likely to give a good long listen to another government agency who they work together with on a number of issues. If the FS LEO asked for stiff punishment because of intent, it’s not surprising the dept listened.

    If I remember correctly Steve Ward was one of the most vocal opponents of the bait ban several years ago. I don’t know if I would buy into the dept having anything against his success, they are just managing a resource. The seasons were reduced in units where success was high and triggered the pre-determined steps outlined in the guidelines. 

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    On 12/10/2021 at 6:24 PM, idgaf said:

    Personally I think the owners should just pick half, make it totally private. With the other half going state land and eliminating the checkerboard 

    That’s a two edged sword…that would make it pretty dang easy to put condos on that big private piece.

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    1 hour ago, trphyhntr said:

    What would be the motivation to lie 

    That your unit shuts down earlier and that the success rate will look higher in reports. Pretty flimsy concerns if you ask me. And not any different than challenges with data we already rely on completely.

    All mandatory reporting does is increase the sample size of data that already gets gathered.

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