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    7 minutes ago, 654321 said:

    The change is going to have to be more than just NR, I know you don’t like to hear it but NR. Make up a fraction of the OTC tags sold in this state. 

    Agree. But we need to know what the NR impact on harvest is. We need the data, because I highly suspect that the NR contribution to the overall harvest far exceeds the % permits sold.

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    2 minutes ago, 654321 said:

    That’s awesome that the state won’t be paying him directly but I would bet he’ll still be out here in January promoting public land hunting, he was doing it well before he was getting paid by AZGFD. He has other sponsors. The only thing that is going to stop the onslaught of NR hunting this state is the removal of OTC tags which for mule deer is well over due with or without Newburg hunting here.

    I totally agree. The mission here was always to start by stopping the dept’s advertising campaign. I felt this was a reasonable request that most people could get behind.

    We need to couple this with a change in the structure for NR archery deer in this state.

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    2 hours ago, oz31p said:

    That’s great news

    Have you heard from the dept? Do they plan to sign with any other YouTube hunters?

    I emailed the petition along with a letter to Director Gray, Amber Munig and all of the commissioners this week. I also sent that same letter to Randy. His response to that communication was where he told me he had withdrawn from the contract.

    I am anxiously awaiting a response from the department. So far, I haven’t heard anything.

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    8 hours ago, zackcarp said:

    Its unfortunate that Randy was villanized over this whole deal. I hope those who held him in low esteem see that he usually does make right decisions. 

    I don’t feel I villanized  Randy in this. I tagged him in all of my posts. I also sent him the letter I sent to the commission and department. But I do think he needs to be accountable for the outcomes of his efforts. In this case I think there is a clear correlation between his promotions and resident otc opportunity.

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    I wanted to provide an update here… today I was informed by Randy Newberg that he has withdrawn from his contract with AZGFD. This is a tremendous accomplishment by the hunters of Arizona. I know that in recent years it’s been said that it doesn’t matter how much we speak up that no one listens. Well now that has changed. Thanks to everyone who spoke up!

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    42 minutes ago, 654321 said:

    Its actually $300 for NR and does nothing to hurt residents odds of getting a tag since NR are capped at 10% of the tags for each hunt #.

    Except for any elk, antlerless elk, antlerless deer and javelina.

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    4 hours ago, rossislider said:

    I'm guessing they are still waiting on Newberg to get back to them with which ones he wants so they can set them aside before publishing the list. He is probably out of service range on one of the many other tags they have gift wrapped for him.

    He's currently on a Montana Mt Goat hunt. Ironically he drew both moose and goat in his home state. Rinella also drew a goat tag. Looks like AZ isn't the only state kissing the social media ring.

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    6 minutes ago, trphyhntr said:

    No, but I’ve been to cities, Wasn’t much like the woods. 

    Its about the same in that most of the threats are imagined. Lots of dudes freak themselves out walking through the woods in the dark. Some do the same in the city. I haven't been to a lot of cities, but I have spent all times of day and night on the streets of NYC. A weak minded person might imagine up all manner of threats, much the same as a guys do in the desert or woods.

    I'd be willing to bet that the root cause for both is the same. People fear what is unfamiliar.

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    On 11/16/2021 at 9:31 AM, 452b264 said:

     

    Every time there is a shooting some people call for more restrictions, ask yourself would take the NY subway at 8:00 pm alone without a weapon? 

     

    Have you ever been to NYC? First, you couldn't be alone on one of those subways at that time if you wanted. Half the people in the city are just heading home from work at that time. Second, it just isn't scary. Not much different than walking back to the truck in the dark out in the woods. I'm self assured enough to know I am capable of either.

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    Just now, Sam said:

    Yeah, kind of. It takes alot of time to debone, cut and wrap. And then grind scraps and other meat. We did not time ourselves this year, but one year it took two of us 21 hours to complete the job. 

    I killed a Shiras in 2019 and did the whole thing start to finish with only my 11 and 10 year old to help. I can’t imagine what an Alaskan moose is like on the ground or the butcher table.

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    On 11/14/2021 at 10:01 PM, WHT_MTNMAN said:

    Similar yes but you can never determine species on antler pattern. Lots of 3x3 mule deer get killed every year that look like they could be whitetail, if antler pattern was the only key feature. 

    This buck I killed in Utah with my bow few years back.  I have Coues deer bigger than this mule deer.  20211114_215857.thumb.jpg.d4d87edb0a83263957c5f66cea354565.jpg

    Solid humble brag right there… Well played.

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