Big Tub

whatever gets your rocks off.

If you didn't get license numbers and turn them in, shame on you -- it's just piss'in and moaning.

Does that include lodging and food? What does one have to do to cross the border with the guns and then back across with the bird?

So are black tail protected and does anybody else eat deer fat?

I just watched that and had some questions: 1. What kind of rattler did he kill: I'd be a little nervous about some of those mountains species, especially on film when an ID mistake could cost you lots of money. 2. Putting deer fat around the heart to cook it???? I've always been told that deer fat is putrid and to cut it all out. Can't say I have ever tried it?

K9: Bob does put on a good lunch out there!

After reading through this post, I wonder if it is meant to come across that you are less of a sportsman if you do not process your own game? I have had good service with Jon at WPG II.

You may want to try some of the fancy stock gunsmiths. I picked up a synthetic for $20 years ago. They love the adl's and put the fancy thumbholes on them (Lawson's in Tucson).

It could be a Bill Engvall momment: "RUN DEER RUN"?

It was available for the turkey. Didn't help me draw, though?

so what did you do?

For fatty meats, low and slow is the way to go -- like in a smoker. But it leaves the outside just plain ugly so you need to finish it off (or start it off )really HOT. America's Test Kitchen used to do the hot first and now goes with the hot last to produce an evenly medium rare condition throughout the thickness of the meat -- no nasty thick gray layer near the outside. We started doing doing steaks in our smoker for about 1/2 hr up to 100F internal temperature and then sear them on our really hot grill for 3 minutes, turning every 45 seconds to get nice, hatched grill marks. I would think a procedure similiar would work well on the fancy roasts. HOWEVER, it took quite a few trials to perfect the technique and man, that can be expensive experimenting on a prime rib!?

.270 beacause Jack O'Connor said so.

I was told that hunters in this unit were blocking roads to eliminate others. Any comment?

BTW: all the deer I was watching merely stood still and looked towards the moving vehicles -- did not spook. Now if the guys got out of the vehicles, that is a different story! Let them drive through. But to go in on a dead end road when you pass two parked vehicles? That may be justifiable homicide!

I agree with Amanda that I would not have been out their waving my arms and essentially drawing their fire. They are looking for movement in their scope just after shooting at a deer. You are lucky you didn't get shot. I'm not sure they broke any laws (by pointing a rifle) as I don't think they knew you were there. 2-track is not a road. What they did was stupid and unethical for sure. I had an experience in 32 where this guy (maybe on this site), a self-proclaimed 1000 RD shooter, unloaded 2 rifles from the back of his truck off the top of the cab (in front of his kids), which is illegal. He wounded a huge mule deer and lost it. We saw it several days later at dawn but couldn't close the deal. Their whole party routinely road hunts which we observed again this year but that is hard to prove. He wasted our tax dollars with 3 trips to court and then plead out for a measly $462 with no loss of privileges. We encountered the guys again this year when they ran a nice buck to wards me but gave up the chase, maybe because they saw me or knew I was there or they didn't know which way to go. We blew the stalk, anyway. I must prefer to inherently be a nonconsumptive wildlife user. They did take a buck on the last day of the hunt 5 minutes after driving out of camp in an open jeep/thing. I cound not see them shoot this time or they would be in court again but you judge for yourself if they were road hunting. I certainly understand your frustration.

I call Chris every year and ask where to put in: this year it was 37B. He had a huge one found in there. Congrats to your Dad. Max bonus pts and counting for me!

I wanted to see Amanda release that lion! I did have a "Javi walk within 8 ft of me. I was seated and pouting in the rain. It did one litte woof, walked down the hill and started feeding. I accidentally launched an arrow up into the air trying to clear my sweatshirt out of the way. Really humbling and I never found the arrow and went back 3 times. I did take a pig in the same area days later.

I found a dead snake yesterday in our garden. This medium size king snake tried to eat a rather large lizard and apparatly it got stuck on the way in. Scared the whop out of my wife. Shouldn't get greedy!

I checked and I have 5 points! The "Display site" can be wrong!

4 pts and counting. I sure thought I had more!

I thought we were talk soccer?

The answer is simple ... G&F Draw Manager: YOU'RE FIRED!

"191 between Morenci and Alpine is one of the most beautiful routes in the state, but not the best for a trailer or for making time" NOT THE BEST FOR A TRAILER????????????? That is a tremendous understatement! I will ammend my comments to DO NOT GO THIS WAY WITH A TRAILER. Note that I grew up in Morenci.

We go from Tucson to Eagar a lot and I don't think there is a "good" way. For us, we just bite the bullet and go via Tucson-Globe-Show Low-Hon Dah-Eagar. However, we just try to go on weekdays at non-peak hours and expect to be slow. Also we don't let the tires get older than about 4-6 years. My sister lives on the east side of Tucson and goes I-10 to Willcox-Safford-Mule Creek-Gleenwood-Luna-Alpine-Nutrioso. It is about an hour longer and maybe a few less up-and-downs but has some narrow section (don't get a flat).