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It's my wifes tag but this last 2 hours of work is killing me. We are headed up at 3 in the morning, thursday final scout and hopefully she wacks one on friday.

Go up in the Hualapai's they feed the muledeer cookies and crackers along the road by hand all the time.

Speedygoss I had that tag last year you should have a blast that was some of the best rut hunting I ever got to play in.

Now come on Adam were not that bad (lo). I'm sure after a couple years we would fail to mention it.

I could see that happening very easy. Especially if he wwas on a steep incline and jerked the horns. I about knocked myself out once when I jerked on a cows leg when trying to load it and the hoof came up and hit me square in the forehead.

Make sure you buy all your over the counter tags for next year before the end of this year as the new prices do not go into effect until after the first.

If you really know this for fact and have done nothing about it you are as guilty as he is.

Yeh they are tough to find however once in awhile you still find a little patch. Me and my son picked up 13 sheds in 2 days in a 1/2 mile patch of ridges about 2 miles in from any roads. If you want them in numbers get awy from the roads.

I totally agree about the rain thing. It's one thing to have some shot fall around you but a whole nother issue when it comes in hot from idiots shooting at low flyers. A dove field can be shared by hunters if common sense is used, however now days that doesn't seem to be the case. When I was a kid my dad would make me carry a empty shotgun around all day if I made a questionable shot. I figured out real quick if I wanted to shoot to pay attention to my surroundings.

Thats doing your homework. Congrats to the shooter.

This is the tuffest one yet he seems to blend in well with the tan background.

The crap about before the internet nobody shared info is bull crap. I grew up in payson and I remember the info about certain deer and areas spread at the bars,football games ect... You could find out info at gas stations or anywhere groups of guys met for coffee. Same info just a differnt delivery system. If you like helping people go for it. I have helped out alot of guys and have had alot returned over the years and will continue to help out others. I like meeting others and will help out total strangers out in the field. I would suggest to the guys out in the field that act like they are some kind of hunting god is to chill out and maybe you might meet some all right new friends that won't mind helping you pack out a critter.

All the bigger bulls I glassed on sat were rubbed clean.

That was well written. Congrats on doing it that way.

Is there anyone in williams or the Seligman area that does it?

Just take big browns with you he loves gutting ang cutting up critters.

Last year on the second hunt they were vocal the first couple days and the pressure shuts them down fast. Lots of hunters if you can scout away from people the bulls will move to those areas as the hunt unfolds. We did see some big bulls however.

We saw 1 in 10 last weekend that was aleady rubbed clean. .

Back before the sub units the tag numbers were the same. Our group had the hunt between cow and bull tags for 6 yrs. We never felt over run with hunters. The elk in those units are use to moving around people more so than other units. There are people in that unit year round. Look on your maps and find stretch's that have chunks of ground in between roads. The elk will be there.

How many guys on here are not going to hunt the ranch now that you have to pay?

Awesome photos.

So if I read this right we can not scout again until August 15. Was this just posted today?

You will still have some bulls with the cows at the start of the hunt but for the most part they will be already back into their solutary mode and starting to bunch up. Water can be a big key if it stays dry but glassing big country and spot and stalk. I had the tag 4 differnt years and found the 2 weeks before were the best as the bulls were in the process of moving into their suclusion mode.Any earlier it seemed the bulls were just to hard to pin down and count on them staying put. The other issue is the rifle deer hunts really psuh the elk around also. I hope these rambles help.

Wow I live in Round Valley for 15 years never draw 27 dec whitetail and now that I live in kingman I draw 27 dec whitetail go figure. It should be a blast, just a long drive..

Up north you have to have sunflowers that are drying up. The last few years the rain has hit late and the sunflowers are not dry enough to seed soon enough to bring in the birds.