Red Rabbit

Way to go, Courtney. Hope you get to use one of the youth OTC turkey tags in several weeks to have more hunting fun. RR

I would put the characteristics of a smooth draw and a light weight bow ahead of speed, imo. RR

Jim, Looks like you got a couple for the panty hose I would guess that all the hype about a superlative season has brought in a few more hunters than normal. How may birds were in the coveys Rico pointed? Doug~RR

Carl, You better get one of those EZ Loaders before your thumb gets sore . He will have the mag emptied before you can load the other. Tis fun to make golfballs and spent shotshells dance. Doug~RR

Welcome recurve shooter. The license and tag fees are on page 12 of the hunting regs in the folowing pdf http://www.azgfd.gov/pdfs/h_f/regulations/08-09/08-09.pdf Archery deer is still over the counter for most units. Archery elk, antelope is a draw. Apps for elk an antelope are to be received in the mail by Feb 10, so just a little time left to apply for this years elk and antelope hunts. http://www.azgfd.gov/eservices/documents/2...pe_WEBFINAL.pdf Our TAA, Traditional Archers of Arizona, is pretty much defunct at the moment. ABA is active. http://www.arizonabowhunters.org/ Doug~RR

This isn't anything like the 300 magnum that shoots so fast that one can hold dead-on out to 800 yards?

I had a pair for a few years. Thought the optics were the next-best sharpest to the Swaro and Leica 15s. Two negatives were that 1) the eyecups had a squarish, not rounded, edge that disliked my brow, and 2) the diopter adjustment was right next to the focus wheel and would get moved as the diopter did not lock. I did notice some curvature of field near the edges when the binos were panned.

I figured that scouting, shed hunting, archery 3-D etc would be hunting related, so I did not include them in the poll. Guess camping could go under "other". The poll limits one to 20 choices.

Of those two, I would consider the Velbon. I have the older Velbon Chaser EFL4 version. While about a pound heavier, I like the steadiness it provides over the Slik Sprint. I had the Slik Sprint and sold it off as I found the legs not stiff enough. For a head, I prefer the light Bogen/Manfrotto 701 or 700RC2. If you are considering "The Gun Claw", you might get the 701HDV as the plate is more secure. The Velbon PF157 head that came with the Velbon Chaser tripod has worn such that the threaded end of the handle used to tighten the head had developed a LOT of freeplay.

Coues79, I did not notice any collimation problems or double imaging when I had them on the tripod or resting on a counter looking at the resolution chart. Many think the Vortex Razors chase close to the heels of the Swaro/Leica glass at half the cost. These Zen EDs equal the Razors, imo, and at half their cost. These Zens do provide a lot for the money. If you do get some and don't like them, there is a 30 day return policy to return them like new for full refund, less shipping, as noted on their web site. http://www.zen-ray.com/ Take some time and read the reviews on the other sites. This is a real good one about the Promasters which Doug at CameralandnY has on special http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=122545 Doug~RR

Mark, Looking on page 28 of the 2008-2009 regs, is says a youth under 14 may hunt wildlife other than big game without a license if accompanied by a licensed hunter 18 and older. Nothing said about a licensed youth needing to be accompanied on that page or the chart on the page 29.

I have been happy with the Lowa Tibets for the rock covered mountains. Full leather, rubber rand, gore-tex, uninsulated. Have not felt I needed any thinsulate in these. I do like the rand for the rocks and no cordura for the cactus. Maybe carry a light pair of stalkers/sneakers to slip into during the final approach.

Tim, Nice hunt story. Congrats on a fine buck from some nice looking coues country. That one matate looks deep enough to be a baby's bathtub. RR

When you say you know the barrel has been shot out, has it been bore-scoped to determine this? Possibly it needs just a real good cleaning to remove copper and then scrubbed with some bore paste. http://www.6mmbr.com/borecleaning.html Maybe also $30 crown job in case it got dinged in the last 20 years.

One option be to blueprint the action and put on a Douglas XX barrel There are smiths in AZ who could do this easily. The price of a top barrel like a Bartlein, Krieger would eat away most of the $500. Shilen offers a less costly barrel in adddition to their higher priced ones. Might watch some of the gun sites for takeoff stocks, or strip and refinish yours. Be sure to have the action bedded.

The Zen ED 8x43s arrived in the mail. Had a chance to compare them to the Monarch ATB 8x and 10x, and the Vortex Razor 10x at a local store . The Zens noticeably surpassed the Monarchs in terms of brightness, contrast and resolution (used the Swaro resolution chart across the store). The comparison with the Vortex Razor 10x42 is close. I still liked the brightness/contrast of the 8x Zen ED. Resolution was equal. I would have liked to have spent more time comparing and discerning for any little difference in image quality like sharpness towards the edges and field curvature. The Zens did feel comfortable in the hands and well balanced. The eye cups were comfortably rounded on the edges, have 3 positions, but seemed a little loose with freeplay. The hinge front is threaded for a tripod adapter. Doug~RR

MY BIRTHDAY BUCK (story by Jim/CAElkHunter) I had a huge surprise party for my wife's 50th birthday in July 2007. Friends and family members from numerous states came to celebrate with her over the three day weekend and it became "the event" in our family for the year. My wife, Jean, was extremely appreciative of the effort and decided she wanted to do something equally special for me. After consulting with the life long best friend, Mark Walter, Jean decided to arrange for me to go on a special hunt for my 50th. With Mark's assistance she ended up getting me a Coues tag for unit B on the San Carlos Indian Reservation for this last December and early Jan. 2009. Jean made sure this hunt would be extra special so she purchased a tag for Mark as well. Mark and I have been hunting together for over 35 years. However, over the years it has become quite obvious that Mark has an inherent natural instinctive ability to find, get on and take trophy animals that I have never had. Jean's purchase of Mark's tag served two purposes. It made sure I would have a fun and enjoyable hunt because I would be hunting with my best friend, and it increased the chances of me taking a nice buck. When I first learned about the hunt I was both excited and concerned. I have never really hunted these small deer. However, I knew from my prior discussions with Mark that these deer are very smart and elusive. In addition, I am exclusively an archery hunter and I knew this would be a gun hunt. My concerns were twofold. First, because of stories I have heard about Mark's prior successful hunts, I knew it was possible that I would have to make a shot of 400 yards. Second, because of my complete lack of gun hunting experience, I have a hard time seeing through a rifle scope, and an even harder time quickly locating, within the scope's field of view, what I am suppose to be shooting at. So, even though I knew this was a great hunt opportunity, I had my reservations. My immediate hunt preparations began with the purchase of Duane Adams', How to hunt Coues, book. In addition, I made some web inquiries and consulted Doug, a.k.a. redrabbitt . Doug provided me with topos of the area, which allowed me to get an idea of the country. During the summer I had a shooting lesson with Mark. I felt okay out to about 200 yards, but was not at all consistent at anything beyond that distance. Again, notwithstanding Mark's encouragement, my apprehension about my shooting abilities remained. My excitement was building as I continued to obtain information and waited for the season to arrive. Through Doug I was able to get Amanda's, a.k.a., CouesWhitetail.com, phone number and had a discussion with her. She confirmed that the areas Mark indicated we would be hunting were good spots. She also confirmed that it was reasonable to expect to see 100 inch bucks during the hunt. In addition, I badgered Mark throughout the summer for details of his prior successes on the San Carlos. I became convinced this would indeed be a hunt where I would have an excellent opportunity to take a good buck, as long as I made the shot. December finally came and on Saturday December 27, 2008 I drove from Fresno to Phoenix to meet Mark. We got an early start Sunday morning and were headed to San Carlos by 4:30 a.m. We saw a little buck on the way into camp, and spent the rest of the early morning getting the trailer and camp set up. Sunday afternoon we took a hike up the mountain to the triple saddle area Mark was very familiar with. We spent several hours glassing, saw several deer, but no shooter bucks. We did see one "big buck" , but he had broken off a large portion of his left side. We figured that was a good sign that the rut was on. However, this was too early in the hunt to be thinking about taking a busted up buck. Because my pre-hunt efforts confirmed that San Carlos has very nice coues, I set my goals pretty high. I told Mark I was looking for a buck which would score around 100 inches. Monday December 29, we spent the day going to various vantage points to glass for rutting bucks. Again we saw several deer, a few nice ones, but no shooters. To our surprise, the deer did not appear to be rutting very hard. We saw several does with no bucks, and a number of bucks without any does. Tuesday December 30 we were up on the mountain in the triple saddle area glassing at sun up. We did not see any shooters in the morning. However by mid afternoon Mark spotted 3 bears and then, he spotted what look like it might be a shooter, who was hanging around a doe. We closed the distance to about 1500 yards and spent some time studying the potential shooter through the 20x60 Swarovski spotting scope. It had good mass, great eye guards, great width, but was only a 2x3. Mark said he knew the buck would be near 95 inches, but could not be certain it would make 100. We also saw another nice, but smaller 3x3, trying to get on the doe but that larger buck was keeping him at bay. This was the first real sighting of good rut activity. After considerable debate, and studying those great eye guards, I told Mark I wanted to see if we could take this buck. Mark put together a perfect plan for a stalk. We ended up getting to within 100 yards from where the shooter buck was bedded but could not see the buck because of the vegetation and terrain. We decided to stay put and wait for the buck to start feeding out in the open area once the sun started to go down. Unfortunately the wind started to swirl, which continued for the hour or so that we waited for the shooter to surface. By the time the sun was getting close to setting, no deer were feeding in the obvious open area where we expected to see them. Mark went down to where the buck had been bedded and it was gone. We packed up and headed over the ridge to get back to the truck. As we topped the ridge, and were making our way through the saddle, we saw the shooter buck off to our right. I quickly set up and Mark reported the buck to be at 300 yards. I took the shot, which was a clean miss. It did not move so I shot again with the same result. It headed over the ridge and we went to check on whether there was any evidence of a hit. After looking around for 30 minutes or so, and finding no blood or other evidence of a hit, we headed over the saddle and down the mountain with the use of our flashlights. So much for my first effort to take a coues deer. I was disappointed, and again concerned about my ability to shoot at distances in excess of 200 yards. As expected, Mark told me not to get down on myself and explained that he has missed similar shots as well. I thought to myself that Mark was being honest, but I suspected his misses were probably made a long time ago when he was much younger. Wednesday December 31, New Years Eve 2008, we went to another area and were glassing by sun up. By late afternoon we had seen a number of good bucks, but no shooter. We packed up and were headed to the truck when we saw a mature buck standing in a clearing about 150 yards out from the truck. It was staring directly at us and we could not get a good look at his rack. We had this stand off for about 5 minutes, when it finally turned its head slightly and Mark declared: "Jim that is a shooter get your gun". By the time I got in position to shoot, the buck was on the move and it did not stop until it was at 300 yards. I shot and was sure I hit it. I climbed up the hill only to find the buck staring back at me about 100 yards out. I quickly aimed free hand and missed again. I spent the next hour trying to find something to show I had hit the buck. However, all I did was confirm what I already knew, once again I had missed a good shot at a nice buck. By the time I got back to the truck I was convinced I would never hit anything that was not tied down and less than 100 yards. I don't remember seeing much the rest of that day. I was beginning to feel some pressure because I knew Mark was putting all his efforts in getting me my buck, and that his tag was going to have to wait to be filled. Thursday Jan. 1, had us back up on the mountain at the triple saddle area before first light. We only saw a couple of does early, again no bucks anywhere near them. We concluded that the rut activity was inconsistent because it was early. Later, we moved up to the next ridge and were glassing different canyons when I spotted a couple of deer I thought Mark should take a look at. When we set up the scope, we were more than 1500 yards out, Mark quickly confirmed that one of the deer we were looking at was the shooter buck I had missed on Tuesday. We continued to watch the deer, 6 in all, 5 bucks who were all keeping watch on a doe that must have been pretty hot. One of the other bucks was a decent 3x3, and the others where much younger and smaller bucks. The previously missed shooter buck was clearly the dominant buck in the group and the only one the doe would allow to get close to her. We watched the dominant buck and doe bed under a big mesquite. Mark then made a plan for what turned out to be the perfect stalk. We had to come off the ridge we were on and get to the backside and below the saddle where they were bedded. We then would have to get up on top of the ridge immediately above the saddle. An hour or so later we were on a ridge directly above the buck. As we peaked over the ridge I was surprised how I had completely lost perspective, from this vantage point, of where the buck had bedded with the doe. Mark looked over and stated that he believed the buck would be in one of the mesquite trees directly in front of us. As I put my 10x42s Swarovskis up I immediately saw the buck exactly where Mark had indicated it would be. Mark ranged the buck at exactly 200 yards and then patiently coached me through the shot preparation, doing his best to make sure I was relaxed and calm. I took the shot and before I could get back on target and reload I heard Mark say: "Congratulations Jim you got a great buck". I asked Mark how he could know so fast and be so certian I had hit the buck and he stated: "well he is down and he is not getting up." I was thrilled as I made my own personal observation of the situation. We then began the work of quartering and caping the buck out. We managed to fit the entire buck in the new Eberlestock J107 Dragonfly Pack my wife had bought me for Christmas, especially for this trip, again after consulting with Mark. We headed off the mountain with the weight of the building pressure I was feeling on my shoulders completely lifted, by the new added weight on my back. For the next 3 days, we hunted hard for Mark's buck. We continued to see numerous deer on a daily basis, and a couple of really nice bucks. The weather started to play a role as we got rain, snow and very low clouds that made glassing diffcult to impossible much of the time. Mark ended up taking a nice buck in the rain late Sunday afternoon, but that is a story he will have to tell. My buck is my first coues, and the first big game animal I have taken with a rifle. We rough scored it back at camp at 98 inches. I could not be happier about that buck. Of course I have to thank Jean for a great Birthday present. However, there is absolutely no question that without Mark's expertise, patience, and guidance, I never would have taken such a nice buck.

So what did you score Mike? 6850

Still #51 this morning?

Diehard, The dropzone works well with the FOBs from my LX. RR

AZOnecam, I drive a pewter-colored Chevy. I did meet some other hunters out for the junior pig hunt and one had a silver Toyota. Doug~RR

Jay, Congrats on a pretty Coues. How did the VLD behave after it entered the derriere? How far did it penetrate and how was the internal damage? Would be interested in seeing the buck from last year, if you would throw a pic up, bitte. Doug~RR

I noticed this posted elsewhere that the Halftrack and Barta packs are on sale at Eberlestock, about half price. Just a heads up if someone has some Christmas gift money burning a hole. http://eberlestock.com/Merchant2/merchant....ategory_Code=BB

b, Another old fart here, as I still have the Ranging 1000 with the 6x eyepiece.

Nosler loads a wide variety of ammo for the 264WM http://www.nosler.com/index.php?p=11&b=3/&s=88 Also available through Midway http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/brows...any_select=1758 If this is your new rifle, enjoy!