Outdoor Writer

In reality, a large part of the lead problem in regards to hunting was addressed when the non-lead law for waterfowl became law in 1991. That happened after studies determined the lead shot was having ill effects on waterfowl. In contrast, the condor situation is a fairly recent one, with the first death in AZ from lead poisoning documented in 1999. Until they were released into the wild, no one could have forecast how lead bullets used for deer hunting would affect them because there was no data to go on. Now the problem, including the cause and effects, is known and needs to be addressed, much like the lead shot ban or the DDT ban that helped the bald eagle recovery. My guess is within a decade, all shot and bullets, regardless of what's HUNTED, will be of the non-lead types. Lead fishing weights might also disappear completely. -TONY

Dandy bull. Nice work. -TONY

Way to go, Christian. That's a super bull for a first one and even better for a first bow-killed one!! -TONY

Yup, few links but if you google the names, you'll find many of the others have web sites, too. I did a couple that way but none showed the writing or colors as you described them. Glad to hear your GF is fine, though. BTW, I had a similar incident happen to me in 2006 on the OK Turnpike when I was on the way home from a writer's conference. I was driving my wife's 2003 Durango rather than my truck, and the sky opened up with a torrential downpour. Traffic had slowed to about 35-40 MPH. I came up on two semis and because of the water they were kicking up, I could hardly see, even if I stayed 100 yards behind them. So I pulled into the left lane and slowly tried to pass them both. But as I got about half-way alongside the first one, he decided to pass the truck in front of him. At that point, all I could do was say, "Oh s__t, hit the brakes and swerve as far left as possible toward the concrete barrier, which is like the one on I-17 here -- about 3.5' high and unmoving. Welll...bad idea. There was so much water on the concrete pavement, the Durango hydroplaned and began turning in circles. The left front bounced off the concrete barrier at about a 45 deg. angle, then the car turned another 360, and the left rear hit the barrier. After one more loop, I finally was able to gain control and bring the Durango to a halt just before I would have gone down a steep embankment on the shoulder side. The semis just kept on trucking and probably never even knew what happened. A trucker behind me did stop to check on me. He couldn't get stopped until he had gone by at least a 1/4 mile. By the time he got back to me, he was drenched. Even though I didn't have my belt on, I was none the worse for wear. Besides cleaning out my pants, the only damage was a slight bump in the head when it hit the side window as the first impact occurred. I was really fortunate the airbag didn't deploy on that one. I just sat there, waiting for the rain to abate a bit. Then I got out and checked the damage. Most of what I could see was sheet metal, but it did take out the left headlight. So...I drove it along the shoulder for a few miles to make sure, then eventually got back in traffic to reach the next service plaza, where I called the OK state cops and reported the incident. The officer listened to my story and just gave me a blank citation with his name and phone in case the insurance company had a question. He told me if he wrote a real report, he would have to cite me for driving faster than the conditions allowed or some such thing. All worked out fine with Farmers, however, to the tune of almost $8,000 in repairs. It was dark when I got home. The worst feeling occurred the next day when my wife, who was driving my Dodge Quadcab, came into the house from work and asked if I had noticed the tire on the OPPOSITE front from the side that had made contact with the wall. I went out and saw that the tread of what had been a fairly new tire was worn right down to the steel belt. In fact, parts of it were already frayed and sticking out every which way. When I thought about cruising down the Sunset Point hill into Black Canyon City at 85 mph, I got a bit queasy. The other tire was also badly worn on the outside edge because the front end had gotten WAY out of alignment. Obviously, it ain't as banged up as Ingrid's car, but a lot of the damage was hidden, especially at the back end, which was worse than it looks in the photo. Besides the obvious, the entire frame around the radiator, the hood, grill, both left side wheels and several front-end components needed to be replaced. At the back, the whole bumper system and door frame around the hatch was replaced. -TONY

If I recall, at least 12 condors in AZ alone have died from lead poisoning, and many others survived after being treated at the Phoeniz Zoo. -TONY

Here's one list I found: Trucking Companies beginning with "L"

Are they off-road or street tires? -TONY They are street Tires and are now priced at $500 for the set and would even consider delivering them to the phoenix area. I'll pass. I need tires but not the street types. -TONY

Yeah, we'll see what happens down the road. Maybe the main benefactor will even attend. -TONY

Okay, it's official folks. The party at my place will take place on Sat., Sept 29, 2007 from 5:30 p.m. until whenever I decide to kick everybody out of the house, which is located near 67th Ave. and Camelback Rd. in Glendale. Cost will be $5 per PERSON (payable at the door) and will include an array of edibles -- munchies, appetizers, cold meats, sandwich rolls, salads, etc. etc. Drinks will include a variety of beer, wine and pop. See preferences below. Now, this thread is for POSITIVE RSVPs ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So please do not clutter it up with questions or other comments, such as, "Maybe I'll be there if the planets align properly" or "I can't make it because my cat is having kittens that day." Use the Tony's Party Questions thread in this section for these. It also contains other info on the auction and binocular testing session. You'll be able to RSVP up until two days before the party, but the sooner the better. I will provide the exact address and directions the week of the party via a PM to everyone. Copy/paste the part below into your RSVP reply here and fill in the blanks below each. I'll acknowledge the RSVP via a PM here. FIRST & LAST name(s) for those attending: Pick the one(s) below applicable for anyone listed above: Beer Brand Preference: Soda Brand Preference: Wine Preference (White or Red):

DUE TO THE LACK OF INTEREST.......... I'm postponing the party to some future date not yet determined. -TONY

DUE TO THE LACK OF INTEREST.......... I'm postponing the party to some future date not yet determined. -TONY

This thread is for questions or the usual inane comments in regards to the party at my house on Sept. 29, 2007. See the YES RSVP ONLY FOR TONY'S PARTY ON SEPT. 29, 2007 thread if you WILL ATTEND FOR SURE. We will hold an auction, beginning about 9 p.m. with the proceeds going to Amanda to help maintain this web site. Although it is not mandatory, we'd like everyone to bring some item they no longer need or want for the auction. It doesn't have to be an expensive item but should at least be something a person will find useful, collectible, etc. A few examples: hunting videos or books; art prints; hunting gear such as knives, packs, clothing etc. Of course, it would be ideal if everything is either new or in like-new condition, but close to either is good enough. Also, although it hasn't' been etched in stone yet, Doug suggested the early start so we still have enough light outside to test various binocular brands, tripods and the like. I already have two tripods and three binocular brands -- 15X Docters, 12X Alpens and 10X B&Ls -- to that end. Others can fill in with more brands. Questions, comments, suggestions????????????? -TONY

That is a super bull, especially for a LO hunt! Nice job, Chris. -TONY

Way to go, Christian. Nice bull. -TONY

Maybe true. I wasn't laughing, though. -TONY

Way to go, Nice bruin. -TONY

Super bull, Jim. Congrats to your hunter and to your crew for a job well done! -TONY

Ahem. When I first started shooting, I had a release that was sort of a C-shaped dealie. I think it was a Truefire or such. I was in my backyard drawing back when it popped all on its own. The arrow was pointed up at about a 35 deg. angle. It sailed over my neighbor's yard, which is on the corner, clear over a street and wound up two yards farther down the block. Fortunately neither of the houses on the other side of the cross street had fences. So I was able to retrieve the arrow. BUT...in the meantime, when it popped my hand came back with such force, that it drove two teeth thru lower lip and dang near knocked me out cold. It wasn't pleasant. I immediately went out and bought a concho-type release. -TONY

There won't be any surplus of those things if I postpone the party. I'd then leave to go fishing on Thurs. or early Fri. -TONY

And...you can also use it in a dark room to check your camo clothes. If they have a bluish glow, they have been contaminated by UV brighteners -- those things that "make the whites whiter and colors brighter." Basically, those UV LEDS are what has always been known as "black light" as often seen in some dance/night clubs. -TONY

Doug, I'm thinking if we don't get a bunch more folks by this Sunday, we'll just postpone it to another time. Then I'll go fishing somewhere instead. -TONY

Are they off-road or street tires? -TONY

This is my "mistake" Warsaw Canyon buck. There were two together, and I shot this one when it appeared in the clearing first. The big one stepped out five seconds after I shot. -TONY

Yes, and yes. -TONY

Superb bull, Josh. -TONY