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Well then quit doing that! Use the toilet instead. 🙄

“A Uniquely Southwest Hunt” Winner Announced Today During Webcast VIEW THE EVENT Arizona Big Game Super Raffle raises $50,000 for bear, mountain lion, javelina package For those hunters who entered the Arizona Big Game Super Raffle’s special fall raffle, the event will be webcast at 4 p.m. today at https://vimeo.com/event/524824. For the past 15 years, the Arizona Game and Fish Commission has annually awarded the Arizona Big Game Super Raffle a total of 10 Special Big Game Tags, one for each of the state’s big game species — bighorn sheep, elk, mule deer, white-tailed deer, pronghorn, bison, turkey, bear, javelina and mountain lion. AZBGSR also received three additional tags this year, which the nonprofit has been promoting as “A Uniquely Southwest Hunt” for bear, mountain lion and javelina. The package includes seven days of guiding services with an Arizona outfitter, Dieringer Outfitters, as well as meals and lodging. Almost $50,000 was raised through the special fall raffle for wildlife conservation efforts. Every dollar raised for each species through the raffle is returned to the department and managed by the Arizona Habitat Partnership Committee (AHPC) for that particular species. With input from local habitat partners across the state and sponsoring organizations involved in the fundraising, project priorities are determined that will provide the most benefit to each species. The winner will be permitted to hunt all three species for 365 days between Aug. 15, 2021 and Aug. 14, 2022. For more information, visit http://arizonabiggamesuperraffle.com.

Years ago, Craig Boddington wrote an article in Petersen's Hunting proclaiming the 110 as the most accurate rifle right out of the box. When we hunted pronghorns together on the HulapaiI Res. years later I asked him if he still felt the same about it. He replied with a definitive "yes." That was a couple decades back, so I don't know if it still applies. Good luck with the sale.

This pack is Gen1 but has never been used in the field. I used it only to take photos. There are four pages showing how to use it. I included two below. It has the gun bearer dealie, one zippered pouch and the cargo shelf/seat attachment. The cargo shelf is the orange thing in the 2nd photo. I will consider reasonable offers but no trades. Payment via PayPal (buyer doesn't need an acct; just a CC or checking acct.) or cash only. Can be picked up near 67th Ave. and Camelback or I will ship at the buyer's expense. SOLD *********** The Spike Camp, at 2,300 cubic inches and less than 3 pounds, provides enough room to haul plenty of gear for short overnight stays or merely the essentials for a single day in the field. With the addition of the optional Cargo Seat/Shelf, packing a Coues deer is a snap. Photo from the "How to Hunt Coues Deer" book. Rear of pack without the seat attached. Front of pack. Rear of pack with cargo shelf in place There is ample belt material to accommodate a large waist. The removable zippered pouch Gunbearer attachment has never been attached

SOLD

My son & I drew elk tags one year, and the only rifle he owned was a Ruger M77 .270. I wanted him to have a bit more gun, so I borrowed a .300 Weatherby mag from Corky Richardson's dad and off we went to Ben Avery. His first shot from the bench produced his first case of "quarter-moon eye," and blood began gushing forth. A severe headache ended his shooting for that day. He did eventually use it to kill his bull, however. The 'small town' comment is dead on, too. That's one reason the 30-06 is always mentioned.

Yup. Sneak pose is nice. Be sure to post a pic when you get it back.

You've received a lot of excellent input in this thread. Nearly every cartridge that has been suggested will get the job done -- as long as the bullet hits where it needs to for a kill. The only other thing is to think ahead; while AZ hunting is now your norm, it might not be in 10 years as you choose to branch out, so to speak. That said, if North American game will be your only quarry, most of the suggested cartridges will kill all of them. The only one where I would lean toward the more 'powerful' is the grizzly. Although I never got to see a boar when I hunted them many years ago, I carried a Browning A-Bolt in .338 WM. The buck is from the North Kaibab, and the rifle is the M70 .264 WM I mentioned earlier. That deer was the first critter it had let the air out of. On the wall....

Yup. Here's my 1960s version...

Cartridges of the World is a great suggestion. I had one of the originals circa 1960s, which I just sold recently. And the part highlighted in red above still applies, despite all the new "you gotta have one" cartridges that have come out after the .30-06 was first introduced more than a century ago. I haven't checked recently, but I will ventuire a guess that the array of .30 caliber bullets available for the venerable 'aught six' still greatly outnumbers any other caliber. Red &black plaid wool shirts also still work. 😎 Now for the disclaimer: over 60 years and countless rifles of varied cartridges, I've owned only one '06 -- a Remington 742 that my grandfather used. I never hunted with it, however. My go-to gun since 1965 has been my M70, .264 WM, which I still own. The only other in my closet now is a custom M700 .300 WM from Robar that I acquired when I went to Africa in 2003 because I thought I would need it. But, out of 12 critters, I used it only for a zebra and probably didn't need to do that either.

Was hunting in 36B one year, and the NG had a huge camp set up complete with helipad on the Warsaw Canyon road.

Forgot..... Remington has similar cartridges to the WSMs call SAUMs for Short Action Ultra Magnum.

They are all different cartridges and not interchangeable. WSM stands for Winchester Short Magnum.

Buy this one then!! Make me an offer I can't refuse.

GAME AND FISH NEWS Dec. 3, 2020 Restrictions in place as bald eagle breeding season begins Outdoor recreationists, pilots, drone operators asked to avoid nesting areas PHOENIX — Arizona’s bald eagles are back, and they will soon be preparing for the next generation of eagles at breeding sites statewide. To assist with the state’s continued bald eagle population growth, the Arizona Game and Fish Department (AZGFD) encourages outdoor recreationists, aircraft pilots, drone operators and motorized paragliders to do their part by not disturbing the state’s 92 eagle breeding areas. To protect breeding attempts, some portions of public land and water areas will be temporarily closed to help these majestic animals and ensure even more young eagles take to the skies this spring. “Arizona’s bald eagles are hard at work preparing their nest for what we hope will be a productive breeding season,” said Kenneth “Tuk” Jacobson, bald eagle management coordinator. “The birds nest, forage and roost at rivers and lakes that are also popular recreation spots. That’s why we must be vigilant to help protect the birds and ensure their populations statewide continue to flourish. That success wouldn’t be possible without the cooperation of outdoor recreationists who respect the closures during the breeding season.” During the 2020 breeding season, 71 young hatched, and 55 reached the important milestone of their first flight, known as fledging. Pilots are reminded to maintain the FAA-recommended 2,000-foot above ground level advisory when flying over bald eagle habitat, while drones and paragliders are asked to avoid the areas completely. Bald eagles are sensitive to even short durations of low-flying aircraft activity near their nests, and just a few minutes of disturbance can lead to a nesting failure. AIRSPACE ADVISORY Statewide The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has established a 2,000-foot above ground level (AGL) advisory along the Salt and Verde river drainages and lakes such as Lake Pleasant, Roosevelt Lake and Alamo Lake. These areas are designated on the Phoenix Sectional Aeronautical map and also include Alamo Lake, Ashurst Lake, Greer Lakes, Crescent Lake, Luna Lake, Show Low Lake, Chevelon Canyon Lake, Woods Canyon Lake, Lake Mary, Dogtown Reservoir, White Horse Lake and the Bill Williams National Wildlife Refuge. Special brochures for pilots regarding this advisory can be obtained by calling the Arizona Department of Transportation or AZGFD's Terrestrial Wildlife branch at (623) 236-7506. SEASONAL CLOSURES Verde River A closure for the Verde River below Sycamore Canyon Wilderness is not planned this year unless the eagle pair resumes nesting. Verde River below Sycamore Canyon Wilderness may be closed to foot and vehicle entry from Dec. 1 to June 15. Floating through is allowed, but contact the Coconino National Forest, Red Rock Ranger District office for more information at (928) 203-7500 or (928) 203-2900. Verde River near Chasm Creek is closed to foot and vehicle entry from Dec. 1 to June 30. Floating through is allowed. Contact Prescott National Forest Verde Ranger District (928) 567-4121. Verde River near Cold Water Creek, allows watercraft to float through but no stopping on the river or landing is allowed Dec. 1 to June 30. Contact Prescott National Forest Verde Ranger District at (928) 567-4121. Verde River upstream of the East Verde confluence is closed to vehicle and foot entry from Dec. 1 to June 30. Floating through is allowed, but no stopping in the river or landing is allowed. Contact the Tonto National Forest Cave Creek Ranger District at (480) 595-3300. Verde River near Mule Shoe Bend allows watercraft to float through but no stopping in the river or landing is allowed from Dec. 1 to June 30. Contact the Tonto National Forest Cave Creek Ranger District at (480) 595-3300. Verde River below Bartlett Dam is closed to foot or vehicle entry from Dec. 1 to June 30. Floating through is allowed, but no stopping in the river or landing is allowed. Contact the Tonto National Forest Cave Creek Ranger District at (480) 595-3300. Verde River at the Needle Rock Recreation area is closed to foot and vehicle entry on the east and portions of the west side of the river from Dec. 1 to June 30. Floating through is allowed, but no stopping in the river or landing on the east side of the river is allowed. Contact the Tonto National Forest, Cave Creek Ranger District, (480) 595-3300. Tonto Creek Tonto Creek from Gisela to 76 Ranch is closed to vehicle, foot entry, and floating through from Dec. 1 to June 30. Contact the Tonto National Forest Tonto Basin Ranger District at (928) 467-3200. Tonto Creek inlet to Roosevelt Lake is closed to vehicle and foot entry within 1,000 feet of the nest on land and to watercraft within 300 feet on water from Dec. 1 to June 30. Contact the Tonto National Forest Tonto Basin Ranger District at (602) 225-5395. Salt River Salt River from Horseshoe Bend to Redmond Flat allows watercraft to float through, but no stopping in the river or landing is allowed from Dec. 1 to June 30. Contact the Tonto National Forest Globe Ranger District at (928) 402-6200. Salt River near Meddler Point is closed to vehicle and foot entry within 1,000 feet of the nest on land and to watercraft within 300 feet on water from Dec. 1 to June 30. Contact the Tonto National Forest Tonto Basin Ranger at District (602) 225-5395. Salt River below Stewart Mountain Dam is closed to vehicle or foot entry on the south side of the river from Dec. 1 to June 30. Floating through is allowed. Contact the Tonto National Forest Mesa Ranger District at (480) 610-3300. Salt River near Goldfield-Kerr Fire Station is closed to foot and vehicle entry on the north side of the river from Dec. 1 to June 30. Floating through is allowed. Contact the Tonto National Forest Mesa Ranger District at (480) 610-3300. Crescent Lake A portion of the west side is closed to all entry from March 1 through Aug. 31. Contact the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest Springerville Ranger District at (928) 333-6200. Fool’s Hollow Lake A portion of the shoreline may be closed to foot entry from December 1 through June 31. Contact the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest Lakeside Ranger District at (928) 368-2100. Greer Lakes (Tunnel and River) (not enacted unless pair moves nesting location) - Portions of the lakes may be closed to watercraft and a portion of the shoreline may be closed to foot entry from March 1 through July 31. Contact the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest Springerville Ranger District at (928) 333-6200. Horseshoe Lake Depending on the nesting location, a portion of the lake may be closed from Dec. 1 to June 30. Contact the Arizona Game and Fish Department at (623) 236-7506. Lake Pleasant No vehicle, watercraft or foot entry is allowed into a portion of the Lower Agua Fria Arm from Dec. 15 to June 15. Contact Maricopa County Parks and Recreation at (928) 501-1710. Luna Lake The north side of Luna Lake is closed to vehicle and foot traffic from Jan. 1 to June 15. Contact Apache National Forest Alpine Ranger District at (928) 339-5000. Lynx Lake A portion of trail on the lake’s east side is closed to vehicle and foot traffic from Dec. 1 to June 30. Contact the Prescott National Forest Bradshaw Ranger District at (928) 443-8000. Show Low Lake A portion of the lake may be closed to watercraft and a portion of the shoreline may be closed to foot entry from January 1 through July 31. Contact the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest Lakeside Ranger District at (928) 368-2100. White Horse Lake A portion of the shoreline may be closed to foot entry from March 1 to Aug. 31. Contact the Kaibab National Forest Williams Ranger District at (928) 635-5600. Woods Canyon Lake A portion of the shoreline is closed to foot entry from March 1 through Aug. 31. Contact the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest, Black Mesa Ranger District at (928) 535-7300. TIPS FOR VISITING EAGLE AREAS If you are visiting bald eagle country, an advance call to the local land management agency, such as the local U.S. Forest Service district office or AZGFD, may help to plan your trip to avoid disturbing bald eagles. By following these simple guidelines, we can all help ensure that our living wildlife legacy will last for generations to come: Enjoy bald eagles from outside the closures, which are marked with signs and/or buoys. Watch from a distance using a spotting scope, binoculars or telephoto camera lens. If the eagles are persistently watching you, observation at a greater distance is advised. Anyone approached by a nestwatcher and asked to cease an activity or leave a closed area should comply. A few good places to see bald eagles without disturbing them (during December and January) are at Lake Mary and Mormon Lake near Flagstaff, on the Verde Canyon Train in Clarkdale or Roosevelt Lake. Bald eagles protecting an active nest will let you know if you are too close. If a bald eagle is vocalizing and circling the area frantically, you are too close and need to leave the area quickly. Bald eagles incubating eggs or brooding small young should never be off the nest for more than 15 minutes. Help from anglers is especially needed. Fishing line and tackle have killed two nestlings and been found in two-thirds of all bald eagle nests in the state. Every year biologists remove these lethal hazards from nests and/or entangled nestlings. Discard any fishing line properly in specially-marked recycling containers or at fishing stores. Also, use fresh line that isn’t old and brittle. Use the correct test line for the fish you are trying to catch. Also, do not cut the line when an undesirable fish is caught and return it to the water with the hook and line attached. Duck hunters should scout out their hunting area to ensure that bald eagles are not nesting nearby. You can help conserve and protect bald eagles and conservation research and recovery efforts by reporting any harassment or shooting of bald eagles. Call the Operation Game Thief hotline at (800) 352-0700 or U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Law Enforcement at (480) 967-7900. AZGFD’s bald eagle management efforts are supported by the Heritage Fund, an initiative passed more than 20 years ago to provide for wildlife education and conservation through Arizona lottery ticket sales.

The Osceola was the final one of my turkey slam, as well. I killed that bird on the Seminole Res. Even got to stay in a traditional chickee hut. It was a fun hunt, even with the temps in the 80s. 😎

Go for it!!! I've also thrown away oodles of old magazines but still have boxes of them, including many individual AZ Hunter & Angler issues, most of which have a photo I took on the cover. I also have many old Gray's Sporting Journals, which contain many very well written articles compared to the pablum found in the run of the mill outdoor mags. RE: Hunt Arizona -- are you taliking about the booklet the AGFD used to publish with all the stats in them? If so, I have several of the older ones around.

Good luck, Bob. This is what to look for, but you'll find it kind of weird chasing turkeys among the palms. 🤣

Well done.

She was a dandy but was merely a couch potato, not a hunter 🤣 We adopted her from another family who had too many dogs. Beasley's mother's's name was Buffy, thus the Mrs. Beasley handle from the 1960s era TV show, Family Affair. On the show, Buffy was the little girl & Mrs. Beasley was her doll's name. Good luck finding your guy. Regardless of the bloodline, Titan is a dandy looking pup.

Sure looks like he has a lot of English Springer Spaniel blood in him. This one was ours in the 1980s. Mrs Beasley

You need to own it again! 😎

Thinking it might turn into a nice trip down memory lane, I started this thread as an off-shoot of the "Good ole days on ammo prices" one. In that thread I mentioned (see below) my early mentor from the 1960s of all things hunting, and that he and his son were noted for a certain hunting discipline. "Yup. I had a PM conversation with another member , and that's how we remembered it. Govway was like an airplane hanger and later became a skatng rink. He also brought up one of my hangouts in the 1960s, Bellow's Sporting Goods at 27th Ave. & Camelback. My dad had a gas station next to Fergison's Cafeteria on the corner of 27 Ave. and Indian School. I worked for him as a mechanic until about 1969 when they tore up the road to widen it, sending his business south. Ed Bellows and I, plus two others, did a DIY horseback hunt in Colorado's San Juan Mts. one year. One of my hunting mentors on all things AZ also hung out there. I'll see if anyone might be able to guess who it was. " So far the guesses included all of these incorrect ones: Bob Hirsch, Bob Housholder, Manuel Sinohui, Mickey Del Re, Steve Galizioli and Ben Avery. These are a few of my replies: Good guesses, but no. I met Householder but didn't know him well. My mentor was actually older than both of them, and he and his son (who was about Hirsch's age) were noted for a certain discipline of hunting. In contrast, Hirsch and I were good friends from about 1969 until his death in 2007. In the 1990s, Kurt VonBesser, the owner of Atsko Inc. (Snowseal, UV Killer. Etc.) and I drew archery elk permits in unit 7W. Hirsch let me use his 23' trailer for Kurt's comfort. It had seen a lot of neglect in the kitchen and bath areas. So when we got done with the hunt, I told Hirsch to leave it with me for while and I'd get it fixed up. I completely rebuilt the cabinet area that held the sink, stove and oven and replaced the floor that had warped because of a water leak. Another good guess. Although, Mickey and I became friends, I didn't know him well until the early 1970s when I was a road rep and sold hunt/fish stuff to him & his brother, Ed, at their store on Northern. I did hunt with Mickey twice, tho -- once for deer & turkey in TX and once for elk near Pagosa Springs. And in the 1970s when we had our lodge at Vallecito Lake in Colo., Mick, usually with his close friend, Chet Hansen (Hansen Mortuary) or others along, would come up a couple times a year to fish for northern pike with me. From PM: Nope, though Steve was another good friend. Jim Tallon, Steve and I hunted dove and quail together a lot. They are both dead now. you don't think he is talking about Ben Avery do you? thats just too obvious.................................... -- No, not Ben.

GAME AND FISH NEWS Dec. 1, 2020 Arizona Game and Fish Department AZGFD online license purchase system will be unavailable Dec. 4-7 due to system upgrade PHOENIX — Arizona Game and Fish Department customers are advised that online hunting or fishing license purchases through the AZGFD website will not be available from 5 p.m. Friday, Dec. 4, through Monday, Dec. 7, due to technical upgrades being made to the AZGFD customer service system. Customers who need a license during this time frame should either buy it online before 5 p.m., Friday, Dec. 4, or buy a paper license from an authorized license dealer. The Department anticipates the upgraded online license purchase system will be available by 8 a.m. on Tuesday, Dec. 8. Portal account holders will be able to view their information but will be unable to make changes during this time period. The system upgrades will allow for improved functionality, security, and will be a foundation on which the Department can build and expand future products and services for customers.

GAME AND FISH NEWS Dec. 1, 2020 Arizona Game and Fish Department Arizona Game and Fish Commission to meet Dec. 4 in Payson PAYSON, Ariz. — The next meeting of the Arizona Game and Fish Commission will be held Friday, Dec, 4, in Payson at the Quality Inn, Conference Room, 801 N. Beeline Highway. The meeting begins at 8 a.m. There are now more ways than ever before to speak to agenda items before the Commission. The public may attend the meeting in person, but the number of people allowed in the meeting facility will be limited based on social distancing requirements. Be advised for this meeting that the Town of Payson requires face coverings in public settings where six feet physical distance cannot be maintained. However, the public may also view the meeting at www.azgfd.gov/commissioncam or may listen to the meeting by calling (404) 397-1516, Access code: 280 046 234##. Members of the public may also view the meeting from any AZGFD office via video teleconference. People attending in person or viewing the meeting via video teleconference from an AZGFD office may submit a Speaker Card (Blue Card) if they wish to speak to the Commission on a particular agenda item. Those viewing the webcast who wish to speak to the Commission on a specific agenda item can call (602) 962-8790 and follow the prompts to say your name, where you are calling from, and the agenda item you wish to speak about. People may also email comments in advance of or during the meeting to sbernal@azgfd.gov. Please note that the ability of the public to attend the meeting in person is subject to change in the event Covid-related restrictions on public events are modified prior to the meeting. If this occurs, the aforementioned options to watch, listen and comment via electronic means will still be available. Copies of any presentations, documents, etc. discussed during the meeting will be available by contacting sbernal@azgfd.gov. A complete agenda can be found here or at https://www.azgfd.com/agency/commission/meetingagenda/.