Outdoor Writer

Condolences to Mike's family.

Please add Metau to the good buyer list.

Reduced to $75.

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That's a fairly decent pattern with good colors, as well.

The message quoted below is from a discussion on this site in 2008. It's as pertinent now as it was then. ____________________________________________________________________________________ "Dan (guy in your last listed video) and Atsko have been in the forefront of all this research on deer vision since the late 1980s. Everything he said is right on the money. Because I was skeptical, I spent more than a year researching the subject and was present when they tested the vision of LIVE deer at the Univ. of Georgia's deer research facility. I also attended the Southeast Deer Symposium in Mississippi where two biologists presented their papers on the subject. I penned the first and most definitive article about the subject for OUTDOOR LIFE magazine in the early 1990s. The article and supplemental charts, etc. covered about six pages. Although the original topic concerned deer, MOST non-human mammals are "blind" to blaze orange and nearly all shades of red into the infrared range of the color spectrum. That general statement takes in ungulates, canines and felines. In contrast, all of the above are highly adept at seeing in the lower range of the spectrum, i.e. blues to ultraviolet. This is what originally triggered the research and led to Atsko's products to eliminate UV absorption from clothing and other items. The only creatures you hunt that will see orange are the avian creatures, such as wild turkey, waterfowl and upland game. And they also are very attuned to the UV part of the spectrum. Anyone interested in reading the OL article, can send me a PM here with an email address. -TONY" _____________________________________________________________________________________ The majority of camo patterns are designed to harvest hunters not game animals. 😉 The latest and greatest is usually nothing more but the same ol', same ol'. Patterns with greens and blacks that are normally small and close together might look peachy to a guy standing a few feet away, but it becomes a dark blob at a distance. As a result of the SCIENTIFIC research that was done, the best camo colors are light tans to browns/black because an ungulate's eyes react the least to any of them and MOST of the terrain appears as the same colors to them. Likewise for blaze orange, which falls within the tan area of a game mammal's dichromatic (two color) vision. IOW, they see colors much like a human who is colorblind. Hunters in Africa, who rarely wear camo, have been killing game for centuries wearing solid tan, brown or olive pants and shirts. Likewise for hunters in those states with mandatory laws in regards to blaze orange such as Colorado and Wyoming. So if you wish to wear camo because it gives you a warm, fuzzy feeling, pick one with brownish colors and large patterns. IMHO, ASAT is about as close as you can get to the ideal. It ain't cheap, but it's well made and rugged.

I have a hard time reading the gray font but see no way to change it. Yeah, I know, I can use the little brush thingie like this, but doing that for every message is a royal PIA. Also, reading messages posted by others is just as bad. Isn't there a way to change the default for crotchety old men with bad eyesight? 😎 PS: I'm using the Dimension theme. The other with black font has that glaring too-white background.

TAADAAA. These tired eyes thank you muchly.

See my reply above yours.

Ok, that's makes sense. What I was forgetting is that they go thru EVERY application during the BP pass regardless of the # of points. It was too early in the a.m. so I still had my head up my a$$. 😡

And the only problem it presents if the 2nd choice is guaranteed is losing BPs for the next draw. It doesn't affect the 1st choice in any way. But the BP lose will also happen if you draw a hunt as a 3rd choice even though it might now be still guaranteed one.

Hmmm. Are you guys positive on that?? The only way that would happen is if there are NO permits left for 12AE. So if that's a 1st choice with permits still available, that's what's doled out. If no 12AE permits are available, it then goes to the 2nd choice.

Give your pup a new home that it can be proud of.

If you normally fish from the bank, you need this set up. It provides lots more opportunities to get you away from other people. On the desert lakes, you won't even need waders.

This suit is ideal for hunting during our mild, AZ fall days! No rain necessary. It's soft and quiet -- perfect for bowhunters.

That'll work. Just let me know in advance so I can it ready to find a new home, and we can do the money part thru PayPal.

Don't you have a friend or relative that might be heading this way and can bring it back for you? As long as you pay for it up front, I'll hold it for as long as it takes. Or I can ship it to you Fedex ground at your expense. I think it weighs less than 50 lbs. so it would be less than $20 if that's the case. Still makes it a good buy.

Hey, say "hi" to the guys on the mountain for me. 🤣

THIS IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE! The rod case I have for sale is new, still in the original shipping box. It sells for anywhere between $115 to $130. Cabela's price is $129. You can be the new owner of this brandy new one for the mere pittance of $75. I will consider reasonable offers but no trades. Payment via PayPal (buyer doesn't need an acct; just a CC or checking acct.) or cash only. Must be picked up near 67th Ave. and Camelback. Plano® 6508 Airline Telescoping Rod Case Protective, thick-walled, two-piece case extends from 67" to 112" to store, transport and safely secure up to eight 9-ft. rods for convenient, hassle-free travel. Lockable with wheels for easy transport. Made in USA. Dimensions: 67"-112"L x 8-1/2"- dia.

You have no earthly idea of the stuff I have stashed away in closets and even the attic. I bet I have at least 4 big boxes crammed full of 200 or more NEW, never worn baseball hats. Same for hunting clothes. I bet I have 5-6 insulated coveralls in various camo patterns that were worn less than 5 days. And then I also have a enough golf clubs and golf balls to start my own country club. This week I sold 8 doz. brand new Titleist Pro V1 balls on eBay $300.

THIS HAS BEEN SOLD AND IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE! I'll be listing the smaller, used one later this week for $25.

Great looking pup, Doug. Rica would likely approve of your choice!

or more kiddies at play thanks for the bump, btw