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This new rule will take 3 off the books.

I'm sure Shawn Wagner would love to put another Owens notch in his belt

If you watched the meeting Kurt Davis wasn't the one who initiated the call for the vote to start the ban. It was a commissioner that said he probably had more trail cams on one ridge than everyone else in the room and he felt it was time for regulation. There will be no break in the ranks this time they voted 5-0 and knew exactly what they were voting on.

I believe the commission is often the driving force of the policies being put forth by the department. Don't for one second believe that the idea was solely the departments idea.

It will pass and AZGFD will legally be able to run cameras as part of their official duties. They fly planes and helicopters during hunts for survey purposes, they use bait to trap turkeys for translocations, ect. ect.

Everyone said the same about the bait ban but you don't hear much about it being a problem. Larry Phoenix said they have about a 97% compliance rate and that their WM's are very good at what they do.

When they open it up to public comment they will provide a place where you can voice your opinion.

At some point probably in January or February there will be a 30 day public comment. At this point I would guess to venture that all the crying in the world isn't going to stop the ban of trail cameras this time. Probably be in effect by January 1st 2022.

According to commissioner sparks he had just as many public comments for the ban as he did against the ban.

I guess being able to read makes you in insider, and by the way most of the carefree employees are working from home now so they're not even in their offices.

The commission isn't doing any banning of trail cameras today, they are only Request to Approve a Notice of Rulemaking Docket Opening, Notice of Proposed Rulemaking Amending Article 3. Taking and Handling of Wildlife. Presenter: Larry Phoenix, FOR3 Regional Supervisor. The Department will ask the Commission to vote to approve a Notice of Rulemaking Docket Opening, Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, and Economic Impact Statement to December 4, 2020 Page 4 of 6 Commission Meeting Agenda initiate rulemaking to amend rules within Article 3. Taking and Handling of Wildlife, related to the use of game cameras. I would guess that when they have the final meeting on the subject it will be at the big office at carefree that way there is plenty of room for anyone that wants a blue card to stand up and cry a little.

Do you guys cry and whine when a restaurant says no shoes or shirt no service?

You're right i was speculating about him crying if he missed an opening day but fast forward the video posted to the 1:20:38 mark. No speculating there.

To you maybe. I doubt Russ Jacoby ever cried over missing an opening day of a hunt but he darn sure cried over the possibility of a trail camera ban.

Don't most big game hunts start on a weekday? Most people more than willing to take that day off if it means that much to them.

It's actually 48 hrs before a hunt.

AZGFD doesn't own the airspace and airplanes and drones don't take game but they still banned the use of them for taking game.

You pay out of state tag costs but you are not put into the 10% cap.

Just curious do you have all the public comments? It would be interesting to see how many comments were for the ban or at least some regulation on their use and how many comments were for no regulation.

Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.

Might be good to let her see how the department really works and where all the funding comes from and if she gets to far out of line she gets out voted 4-1.

Jennifer Martin and Sue Chilton have both served as commissioners. Jennifer had a biology background and may have worked for the department at one time and Sue Chilton is a rancher just outside of Arivaca.

There's two others to choose from and one of them I'm pretty sure used to be a WM for the AZGFD.

According to AZGFD there were over 8,150 more applications and 11,495 more applicants this year than last year.

His small town was right off the 447.