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If I m reading this right, this is not good... Under A.R.S. § 17-309(A)(4), it is unlawful to discharge a firearm while taking wildlife within one-fourth mile of an occupied farmhouse or other residence, cabin, lodge or building without permission of the owner or resident. Under R12-4-303(A)(3)(h), it is unlawful to discharge a pneumatic weapon .30 caliber or larger while taking wildlife within one-fourth mile of an occupied farmhouse or other residence, cabin, lodge or building without permission of the owner or resident. In addition, the Commission is aware of instances where a hunter who lives on the edge of a municipal boundary is unable to archery hunt on his own property because Commission Order closes areas within one-fourth mile of an occupied residence. For example, a hunter who lives on the edge of a forest boundary and who is miles away from the nearest residence is unable to archery hunt on their own property because of the location of their own home. In addition, the Commission and Department have received a number of complaints about persons archery hunting near their private property. The Commission proposes to amend the rule to prohibit the discharge of hybrid device, arrow, or bolt while taking wildlife within one-fourth mile of an occupied farmhouse or other residence, cabin, lodge or building without permission of the owner or resident, to increase consistency between statute and rules. This language mirrors statutory language under A.R.S. § 17-309, which prohibits a person from discharging a firearm while taking wildlife within one-fourth mile of an occupied farmhouse or other residence, cabin, lodge, or building without permission of the owner or resident. This change is in response to customer comments received by the Department. I read it to say that we will not be allowed to archery hunt within 440 yards of residences without their permission. If so, all of us that love hunting along the verde river for birds, javelina, deer and elk are screwed. Somebody tell me I'm wrong... I emailed AZGFD and hope to hear back from them. The only reasoning stated is that some people have complained. Seems like a lot of us will be punished to alleviate the complaining.

So if this goes into effect, imagine the phone calls to game and fish... If you walk within 1/4 mile of private property, carrying your bow, and someone calls it in that you are hunting inside of 1/4 mile, does anyone believe they won't get a ticket? Then, it will be off to court to prove your innocence. Because obviously it won't stop people from complaining to the department. Anti-hunters will always complain, and if AZGFD starts giving away hunting privileges just for appeasement, we are off the slippery slope as it were.

Ya, rather ironic that in metro units they have this rule...

Javelina chorizo is so good. Only thing I do with em. But I like the green chili idea, might have to try that.

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You were in a good area, maybe just bad luck. I was up there this morning on the north side of stoneman lake road at the head of rattlesnake. Didn't glass up any coupes but had 4 of them inside of 100 yards run by me, including a nice buck. Until you sit the same spot multiple times you can't know what is around.

I have the same tag and spend a lot of time in 6a. You are in good country around stoneman lake. There are white tails all over, so glassing from a good vantage point is key. Many guys will get up high and just stay behind the glass all day as WT are active a lot of the day. They like to go to water in the middle of the day, so watch the weather and find where they're drinking. I will be doing some scouting this fall so let me know when you are coming up and maybe we can team up.

Look for water where they're wallowing.

So many great posts, and great info. It is so worth doing, either fostering or adopting. Life changing in so many good ways. But $1200 in trigger locks...at $12.99 each... I need to buy more guns! Holy crap you must have an armory! The homestudy is a pain, especially since it takes so long. And we had a great experience with catholic social services in our area as well.

Good for you guys thinking about adoption. I hope you can go through with it. I would encourage you to go the foster/adopt route as there are about 18,000 foster kids in AZ right now. There is a huge need for adoptive families. My wife and I have 2 biological children, and 4 adopted children, with one more in the works. Our first three we adopted through foster care, which we did for 7 years. There might not be anything more challenging and rewarding at the same time. If you adopt through fostering, costs are covered by the state. Also, the kids get a monthly adoption subsidy until they turn 18, and free health care. They also get help paying for college. If you go straight adoption, the costs are on you to cover. Here is a link to my wife's blog if you want to see what she has written about. A lot of it has to do with our international adoption. http://www.ransomforisrael.com Here is a link to a segment Fox10 News did on our family. http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizona-news/215456447-story We are very active in helping other families adopt, so if you would like to hear our experiences, or get help navigating the system, let me know.

The dog fence with the wire works great. You could always Bury some wire around a smaller part of your yard. That might be easier than trying to run wire around 6 acres.

We are selling our Toyota FJ Cruiser. It is an awesome truck and I hate to see it go, but family reasons dictate it must. Nothing wrong with it at all, is super fun to drive. It is 4x4, 6 speed manual with cruise control. Has tilt wheel, roof rack, GOBI ladder system, CD player, and black cloth seats. Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac tires are in good shape at about 50% tread. 108, 600 miles on odometer. I also have a roof storage system for the top rack. Asking $15,600 obo. 928-3zero1-3250 call or text

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Scout the land, the water, the old elk sign... all are more important than where the elk are right now. Scouting usually gives a false sense of preparedness. In my experience, once the rut is about to get going, everything changes. they will move miles overnight. And be prepared to hunt closer to the road. Again, in my experience, you have to hunt the elk where they are. If you catch any videos on youtube of elk walking through a town or down a highway during the rut, its because they dont care. I would not plan on getting to the back country unless there is some grand reason. Not to say it would not be an awesome adventure, but the elk might be closer to the roads than you think. Just saying, be prepared to adjust and throw everything out the window once the rut starts.

A friend and I drew archery deer tags for Colorado 77/771/78 this fall. I have not hunted Colorado before, and am hoping for a great new tradition to start this year. I have looked through all of the posts referencing Colorado, and am totally stoked to get to join in the fun chasing mule deer with my bow. Our unit is around Pagosa Springs, and I have been pouring over maps and google earth and am excited at what I see. We are not looking for a wilderness backpack trip as much as just places to find deer. I have bad knees from years of playing hoops, so somewhat limited by that. I am willing to trade any information about hunting in Arizona to any Colorado guys. I think trading information is one of the benefits of a forum like this. Anyway, let me know if you can help. Darren

I guess you might not know the answer to that...

Thanks bugle, I'll check them out. How is service around the unit? I have verizon.

It says pending check back in afternoon... killing me

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Big shout out to Healy Arms for doing a gun raffle to support Lori and Nate Ryberg! The Ryberg have 13 kids, many were adopted out of foster care and have special needs. Nate is a Tempe police officer. They are an amazing family. http://www.yourphx.com/community/gofundme-helps-family-of-15-with-a-wheelchair-lift/636434223 http://www.12news.com/mb/news/local/valley/holiday-heroes-helping-tempe-police-officer/380326454 https://www.abqjournal.com/919071/family-of-15-seeking-help-to-buy-wheelchair-accessible-van.html https://www.gofundme.com/Ryberg-Family?d=135912044 There is still time to buy raffle tickets. And if you can help I included a link to there gofundme page. Thanks to Healy. I know where I will buy my next firearm.

Ya I think it was in the store only. I'll have to check with Nate and maybe we can do a coueswhitetail version gun raffle 😁

Very cool. She will remember that the rest of her life.

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