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Fair enough..... I guess in this particular case, for me personally I don't really care because I don't use that product. Even if I did, I think as long as it tasted the same I wouldn't really care what the bottle looked like, but that's just me. I get what you're saying. Maybe someday the cry-babies and political correctness police will result in a change to a product I actually care about. Suppose my perspective might change when that happens. Until then though, I just don't really have the mental energy to care. (Yet somehow I find the mental energy to get on here and debate stuff that I say I don't care about... lol)

Ya, I get it. Cancel culture and political correctness (so called) gone wild. Same product with different name still = who cares, IMO (Those who want to eat it can still eat it....). If corporations decide to change names/images based on political correctness and cry-baby input, it just doesn't impact me at all. For sure real maple syrup is WAY more expensive, but I don't eat it much anyway so I'll indulge and pay the premium on that rare occasion (I think I have had the same bottle of maple syrup in my cupboard for over 5 years now....).

Does anybody really care if she's gone??? Fake maple syrup is lame, anyway..... Corn syrup and chemicals. Yum??? 🤢

For me, it seems like many folks here in AZ have never even been exposed to gun-dogs in the first place. The average dove & quail hunter here in AZ just doesn't know what they are missing. I know that growing-up in a small town in the 70s, we hunted rabbits and birds all the time, but never over dogs. Was always run & gun Gambels chasing for us. Wasn't until I was an adult that I discovered that a handful of 'points' over a good dog was => running-gunning a limit of Gambels.

Not sure, but I think I remember seeing one at Tractor Supply Co. once. Maybe check there?? (Also check with some local fencing companies?? Possibly they would do it....)

Super cool, Nuker!! Love the story behind it all!! Also, I have that rifle!!! (Though mine is slightly newer, in that the serial number tracks it to 1911...) Story behind mine is that my father was an engineer/geologist at the Ray copper mine (Kearny) for many, many years. In the early 60s (before I was born), they found more copper ore than originally thought at the Ray mine, so they decided to go wide-open with the pit. In order to do so they had to displace the town of Sonora, and hence the town of Kearny was born. While they were moving/demolishing some old warehouses, they came across a case of new/never-used 30-30's. In tracking back the records, they were able to trace the purchase back 1916, when the mine bought the rifles to guard against any possible attack from Pancho Villa. Well, of course the attack never came and the rifles remained in their case in the warehouse. When my dad and some of the other supervisors found the rifles, the controller/accountant didn't really know what to do with them, so they had a raffle and sold them to the employees for $25 just to get them off the books. Dad is long gone now, and the rifle remains as one of my prized possessions. Was cool to see another just like it posted here! 3030 2.jfif

That old rack with the metal tag is super cool. My dad had a big, heavy 4X4 muley rack hanging up in the carport in the house I grew-up in, in Kearny. Killed it up close to the Ray copper pit, I believe. It had one of those metal tags, circa around 1960 or 1961, I think. When they moved after he retired in the early 90s, the rack somehow became lost. Sure wish I had that now.... S.

Indeed, she is looking good. How old?? My little one was born on Dec 16th, so 11 weeks at this point.

A buddy of mine has a house up in the foothills in Tucson, right up against the mountains (close to the north end of Swan, if you're familiar with Tucson). I was hanging out with him a while back, and he was showing me his newest 'toy', which was a VERY cool drone. Not sure how high-end it was, but it basically had an HD camera set-up and a range of something like 3 miles. It was mainly to goof-off with on his back deck, and we had fun flying it around and taking videos and pics of the mountains and a couple of the resorts close by. Given the HD level quality of the video it produced, it of course occurred to me that it would be super easy and convenient to fly it up into hard to reach canyons and territory to 'scout' for animals, if one was so inclined. Nothing beats a good pair of binos on a tripod, but still.... Anyone tried that yet?? (I'm sure that like the trail camera topic, this one could get hot! LOL)

Outstanding!!!! I picked my little girl up last week! 😍 (Curious to know what breeder? Possibly they're litter mates. I'll PM you on that....) This is my 2nd Vizsla, and I'm super excited! My ex-wife currently has two..... We are a BIG TIME Vizsla family (We're still close, obviously... lol)! Benci is already pointing fly's that have been pestering her while she is eating!! fly point 2.jfif

Thanks for the heads-up. Both now GONE!

"may appear in the future...."??? Ummm, the future is now. There have been private companies involved for years now. You're not serious, are you? We are literally in the midst of a global pandemic, and drug companies are in competition to develop and sell the most vaccines without sharing their info for the "good of mankind...". Lame possibly, but true. The intellectual property business (patents) is HUGE. Freely sharing of info in big business rarely happens, if ever.

For sure!!! Of course my personal productivity has been in the toilet ever since I was forced to work at home last year. 🙄

Looking back at the beginning of this thread, I think boncollector jinxed it!! "Minutes away!" Ya, right... 🙄🤣

Like I said, this could end-up like the trail-cam debate. lol

Actually, in the regs it looks like drones are referred under the 'aircraft' category. The only restriction I can find is that you can't do it within 48 hours of a hunt. Edit: Correction! It also is referred to in the 'harassment' section, but is not explicitly stated as illegal. Only that you cannot use them to 'harass, heard, etc...'.

Thinking the same thing. Sounds more like a 'process/policy' sort of thing, as opposed to a contractual obligation. Almost seems like an over & above courtesy they offer.

I suspect huntlines is just going based on how it works historically. Don't think he's purporting that it has to happen that way. That being said, I suppose this could be another point to debate and argue about to pass the time.... 🙄🤣

I love this sort of stuff, so this is kind of driving me crazy. 🙄 Still grappling with 20 points equating to 30% chance of grabbing one of 200 tags, especially when each individual point is only a .00753 chance of being drawn. Hmmmm.....

2) Draw percentages, the way I read the G&F draw rules... I ran some numbers & came up with the following: Assuming there are 200 tags in a hunt & there are a total of 13,272 total "points" in that hunt's draw (adding up all applicants points randomly assigned) each point gets you 1.5069% chance of drawing one of the 200 tags. If you have 20 points you have a 30.1386% chance of drawing one of the 200 tags. Multiple hunters on one application that average 5 points/each have a 7.5347% chance of getting 4 of the 200 tags, assuming that when their app was selected at least 4 tags were left over. For that reason, their chances are slightly less than that... Ugh..... Testing my memory of basic Statistics 200 many, many years ago, but I'm thinking you're wrong on the 30.1386% chance of drawing. In order to have a 30% chance, you would need to hold 30% of the total points, I think. Seems what you have is is a 1.5069% chance of drawing a tag, 20 different times. Can't find the formula off the top of my head, but it is definitely NOT a 30% chance.

+1. That is not a tag transfer or gaming scenario. That is a poaching scenario, IMO.

I'm not waiting on portal updates, I'm just waiting on the draw. Once they complete the draw (whenever that happens), I'll wait until I hear they have updated the portal and then check to see what I got drawn for. Or I'll just call the phone number and try to find out what unit I was drawn for like I did prior to the portal being introduced. Of course that's only IF I end-up being lucky enough to get a card hit. If I don't get a card hit, then I'll likely not log into the portal for a long time.

The Hunter Ed idea is not a bad one. Double win of likely weeding-out any non-hunters, but also frankly just helping with the average yayhoo being a little more safe. Regarding folks not putting their money where their mouth is, I say a BIG +1 to that!!! IMO it applies as much to those who vote for Republicans, too. If you have ever gone to a G&F meeting or gotten involved in any of the local hunting/fishing organizations, the level of apathy and/or non-action by hunters in general is pretty clear. Even when there is a so called hot topic (like trail cams, for instance), the % of hunters who actually show-up to a meeting to comment is extraordinarily low. Complaining online (or nowhere at all) is what the large majority of hunters do. 🙄

For me, it just seems like the way of things in AZ. 18,000 more applicants for elk/pronghorn, 1000's more campers in the woods/desert, side-by-sides all over the place, road paved all the way to Big Lake, etc... For sure, 18,000 is a large increase, but given the total number of applicants each year and the total bonus points in the pool, I don't feel like statistically it will make a hugely significant impact to the odds of the vast majority of the hunts (Of course the proof will be in the pudding when the 2021 draw odds are published later in the year.). I know I have seen the total number of applicants year over year posted here recently, (Likely Flatlander posted....), but what would really interest me would be the total bonus points, which I feel would give a truer picture of how much an additional 18,000 applicants (theoretically, each with NO bonus points) would impact the odds. S.

WARNING!!!! I started poking-around on the site. Just for giggles I hit the Paypal button (one of the ways to test legitimacy), and got the following: "The requested action could not be performed, semantically incorrect, or failed business validation. || PAYEE_ACCOUNT_RESTRICTED:The merchant account is restricted." (So basically, Paypal is restricting their account...) Potential buyers beware!